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Aren't Macs supposed to "just work"? I am writing this from a nice quad core Windows 7 machine that actually works - all the time. And no, I haven't had a virus since 1998...
 
Aren't Macs supposed to "just work"? I am writing this from a nice quad core Windows 7 machine that actually works - all the time. And no, I haven't had a virus since 1998...

LOL... Sure you have. You just needed your third party anti-virus software to cleanse it from your junk OS. It's okay- you're not alone! :D Enough of your nonsense now.
 
yeap Dell = Nasty, which is surprising how so many mac users run Dell monitors. I thought they would have known better than to buy those cheap junk from Dell.

Well try connecting an awesome new Apple 24" LED ACD to any mac pre unibody.... that is why they run dells, cause the ****** Dells just well "connect" . Not by choice mate...
 
Only 10,00 computers in that survey? Yep. In Australia? Yep. Doesn't mention that Square Trade is a warranty service company, not a research firm.

I think I'll trust Consumer Reports that puts Apple #1 in reliability. Couple of million computers there.

www.apple.com I think is who you are looking for. You sound like someone that would watch Fox to get the news they want to hear ;), bugger an independent view
 
Sorry to post 3 in a row... but I had to comment on this silly comment.

So did Sony fail business 101 with the Playstation? How about Nintendo with the Wii, Amazon with the Kindle or Barnes and Noble with the Nook? How about Pictionary man last year?

What about the Zhu Zhu pets everyone was trying to get this year? How about specific Star Wars lego sets this year?

I'd really be interested in you sharing with us your experience in production and delivery. More specifically, how you would get so much product onto store shelves that it would never run out and still be profitable when the holiday rush is over.

As a society, we just need to stop tolerating these type of crap comments. Apparently all of these guys are brilliant entrepreneurs who turned down offer after offer from Apple. #sarcasm

Whining that a company has failed business 101, while they're at home adding up their bank overdraft fees.

AppleMojo - Relax brother. Sure everybody has their problems. This is an Apple forum though. There was a problem with my machine. Apple responded by giving me a new unit since it was under warranty. End of story. I like the product, made the switch from a pc, and wouldn't go back. By the way, I think the overdraft fees comment is a nice touch. Try smiling today. It will make you feel better.
 
yeap Dell = Nasty, which is surprising how so many mac users run Dell monitors. I thought they would have known better than to buy those cheap junk from Dell.

I've had a 24" LCD Dell since early 2006...not a single problem.

Also, all Dell monitors come with a 3-year warranty standard...they are mostly Samsungs rebranded as Dell.

-Eric
 
I never knew someone could complain about Dell's monitors. :p

Well I am always annoyed by people buying junk from Dell just because it's cheap. Everyone knows Dell doesn't make good hardware. If you want quality, always stick with Apple.
 
We pay Apple premiums just so that we don't have to face such things that the unfortunate and unprivileged peasants of the PC world do. I am disappointed, but knowing Apple they will set everything all right.

I may be a peasant, but at least my hardware works ;]
 
It's not like glitches in Rev. A products are new--I've known people who refused to buy any new Apple product for the first two or three months after release since way back in the early '90s. Not saying this makes it ok to ship flakey hardware, but a little sense of perspective doesn't hurt.

That said, I paid $2100 for an i7 iMac and it does indeed have a mild form of this (in my case, it seems to be exclusively when the processors are being taxed for hours at a time by video processing tasks). I feel a little comforted to know that it's widespread enough that Apple will deal with the flaw sooner rather than later.

And personally, I'm intentionally NOT calling AppleCare yet. I'm enjoying the machine even with the glitches, so I figure I'll just wait until the holiday rush has subsided (and, hopefully, the issue identified and fixed), so I'll be able to get it fixed/replaced in a timely fashion. I'd rather use it with mild glitches for the next few weeks than do without for a couple weeks while they wait for stock of parts/replacement units.

Given that I bought an early Rev. A G5 tower, which ran perfectly apart from an ATI graphics card failure (covered under warranty) for 5.5 years and I just sold, and got one of the first 17" MBPs off the line which I'm typing on right now after 3.5 years, I figure my track record is ok for major new hardware releases without issue.

Hey, look at the bright side--the'll probably be a lot of 27" refurbs hitting the Apple store in the near future.
 
Maybe the next PC vs. Mac ad can have them listing all of PC's faults, only to then have PC tap a few times on Mac as the image of Justin Long flickers in and out, lol :D
 
Well I am always annoyed by people buying junk from Dell just because it's cheap. Everyone knows Dell doesn't make good hardware. If you want quality, always stick with Apple.
Dell's IPS-based panels are excellent. Dell's higher-priced PC hardware offerings, such as the non-entry model XPS systems are also very good, and the warranty support is top-notch.

Dell's reputation mainly takes a hit due to its high-volume, low-quality systems.
 
That said, I paid $2100 for an i7 iMac and it does indeed have a mild form of this (in my case, it seems to be exclusively when the processors are being taxed for hours at a time by video processing tasks). I feel a little comforted to know that it's widespread enough that Apple will deal with the flaw sooner rather than later.

That's not a smart thing to do...the SOONER you call and complain about a DEFECTIVE electronics equipment, the MORE LIKELY they will just swap you out with a brand new one....or give you a full refund and you can go back 30-90 days later when you wait for Rev B models. If you wait 30+ days, they're just gonna say "well why didn't you call us on Day 1 when you noticed it was broken?...now we have to follow company policy and force you to go through our repair service."

I would never, ever wait to call. First, for my reasons above and second, it helps the manufacturer greatly to know what % of stuff they are selling is DOA (Defective On Arrival, not Dead On Arrival).

-Eric
 
Dell's IPS-based panels are excellent. Dell's higher-priced PC hardware offerings, such as the non-entry model XPS systems are also very good, and the warranty support is top-notch.

Dell's reputation mainly takes a hit due to its high-volume, low-quality systems.

And...I've been purchasing Dells for over a decade...mainly because there is no other PC company that truly competes with them (I refuse to buy HP hardware of any kind) on a desktop level. And it costs me MORE to try to build it myself.

Out of the 20+ Dell desktop pcs I've ordered (all under $600) for myself, family, and friends, only 3 have had hardware issues...all 3 were bad hard drives after about 2 years of use. All 3 drives were Samsung drives. $50 at Newegg for a new, quality Maxtor or WD drive since the 1-year warranty expired and was cheaper/easier than going through Dell. Average length of time of keeping said Dell desktop is about 5 years.

My only beef with Dell is their Support is terrible...it's a nightmare trying to reach a human...and who speaks fluent English...and who is willing to help. Not to mention I've been dropped as Dell transfers me 19 times during a support call.

Spec for Spec (or very very close), no pc-hardware vendor beats Dell on price for desktops. I buy the Dimensions...typically I can get a great mid-range unit for under $600 (quad core, 4-6gig ram, 500gig drive, dvd,) including monitor...$500 if I don't want the monitor. These days I have no need for more powerful systems such as their XPS or Alien line.

I love the iMac style and was considering buying one in January...but not now. I would want to see a statement from Apple about how they are handing, in essence, these lemons. That's the good (bad for them) part about buying Apple: only Apple can be blamed for problems with their products.

-Eric
 
Tombb,

If the reason is high demand then the guys working at Apple failed their business 101 class in college. One of the worst things a business can do is not have product. Especially during the holidays. When they do most of their sales (40%). That's hilarious if you actually believe that.

I think YOU failed business 101. ;) Ever heard of Supply and Demand? Especially around xmas time, many companies with popular products don't overstock in order to keep the customers salivating for more. If it's too easy to get nobody wants it. The Xbox, PS3 and the Nintendo have been famous for this and they have been very successful at it.
 
Indeed, this problem has become bigger and bigger in a very short period of time. Ordered mine on 7/12 and had a message yesterday that it would be delivered in two days, all I see now is 'Exception' when I browse to the UPS site to track the passage.

Hm, as an all time windows users the 27" but to be 100% honest, I kinda regret it already. What is best to do when I have one of the known problems, call the support service of the online site or visit a reseller? I ordered it online and didn't buy it at a reseller's.

Fingers crossed?

If you just wanted it for the screen, you could always buy this big beautiful 26" Samsung 1080p high definition monitor. I saw it at Office Depot, and it is stunning... Although not as sexy as an imac.

http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...m/LS26TDNSUV/ZA/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail
 
Tombb,

If the reason is high demand then the guys working at Apple failed their business 101 class in college. One of the worst things a business can do is not have product. Especially during the holidays. When they do most of their sales (40%). That's hilarious if you actually believe that.

Hmmm... You may be right and I certainly have no authoritative info. But going from "7-10 days" to "2 weeks" proves neither that Apple is retooling a stalled iMac production line nor that it is hopelessly inept at predicting demand. I think the quad iMac sports a compelling feature set and we have seen "popular model ramp-up shortages" in the past.

Also, I'm glad my musings could bring some joy into your life! :)

Happy Holidays,
Tom
 
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