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Yeah that looks like the most probable scenario. Gurman is still saying that an iMac Pro is coming, and Young is still point out to 27 inch displays that are going into mass production. That looks like this panel is for the iMac Pro, not a standalone display. Other than the technical limitations of Thunderbolt, it would not be logical at all for Apple to release a 27 inch display 3 month after the Studio Display, with mini-LED and promotion it would be competing with the Pro Display XDR, which Apple clearly will not discontinue (I don't see them leaving the 32 inch+ monitor market).

But if that's true then the iMac Pro will have a better display than the Mac Studio/Studio Display combo which is already quite pricy. Maybe the iMac Pro will not be getting M1 Ultra? Otherwise what's the advantage of the Mac Studio over the iMac Pro?
 
But if that's true then the iMac Pro will have a better display than the Mac Studio/Studio Display combo which is already quite pricy. Maybe the iMac Pro will not be getting M1 Ultra? Otherwise what's the advantage of the Mac Studio over the iMac Pro?
Yeah I'm very confused too. Not impossible that this iMac doesn't get M1 Ultra because of physical constraints and thermals, but I agree with you, an iMac with better screen tech than the Display Studio and Pro Display XDR doesn't make sense
 
Yeah that looks like the most probable scenario. Gurman is still saying that an iMac Pro is coming, and Young is still point out to 27 inch displays that are going into mass production. That looks like this panel is for the iMac Pro, not a standalone display. Other than the technical limitations of Thunderbolt, it would not be logical at all for Apple to release a 27 inch display 3 month after the Studio Display, with mini-LED and promotion it would be competing with the Pro Display XDR, which Apple clearly will not discontinue (I don't see them leaving the 32 inch+ monitor market).
Young seemed pretty sure this was for a standalone display
 
I foresee this being released alongside an updated Pro XDR, probably as part of the Mac Pro launch in June.
 
It makes more sense to me that this new screen is actually an iMac. It doesn't seem like they would hit pro studio owners in the kneecap after a new purchase like that.
 
But if that's true then the iMac Pro will have a better display than the Mac Studio/Studio Display combo which is already quite pricy. Maybe the iMac Pro will not be getting M1 Ultra? Otherwise what's the advantage of the Mac Studio over the iMac Pro?

The iMac Pro will not be getting the Ultra unless it has a chin like Bruce Campbell’s.

It makes no sense for Apple to release an iMac with a better monitor than what’s available for the Mac Studio. And there‘s no real indication than an iMac Pro is coming any time soon. (If there were, I would have held off and not ordered the Studio this week.) Just speculation. Apple took the very unusual step of pre-announcing the iMac Pro, so it’s a safe bet that will be the next Mac to appear, quite likely at WWDC. And that’s too important to share the stage with a new iMac.
 
It makes more sense to me that this new screen is actually an iMac. It doesn't seem like they would hit pro studio owners in the kneecap after a new purchase like that.

If they introduce it along with the Mac Pro, though, it makes a certain amount of sense. “We recently showed you a powerful new computer with a really nice monitor. Now, here’s an even more powerful computer with an even nicer monitor.”

Yeah, the trolls will go crazy, but so what? They‘ll react that way no matter what Apple does.
 
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Yeah I'm very confused too. Not impossible that this iMac doesn't get M1 Ultra because of physical constraints and thermals, but I agree with you, an iMac with better screen tech than the Display Studio and Pro Display XDR doesn't make sense
I can either have the ability to have up to four matching 5K displays @ 60K and a possibly faster computer that can be upgraded/replaced separately from the displays, but with a current technical limitation that means not being able to have 120Hz ProMotion, -or- I can have a single built-in display with XDR and 120Hz, and the ability to only add perhaps one or two more displays at 5K but at 60Hz, that don’t match. Seems like a decent trade off, depending on one’s needs. Maybe the iMac Pro will be offered with an M1 Pro and an M1 Max, just like the MacBook Pro, and the M1 Ultra is reserved for the larger / dedicated form factors, whether it be Mac Studio or upcoming smaller Mac Pro (which perhaps starts with a single Ultra at the base model and offers the ability to move up to two of them). I’d imagine that custom interconnect could also have a version that can connect 4 M1 Max chips for the high end of the tower form factor.
 
I think they were quite clear when they said the Mac Studio completed the lineup except for the Mac Pro which is coming later. No iMac.
 
I don't see how they can announce a better 27 inch display in three months without pissing off the customers who bought Studio Display now except

1. it's a All-in-one like iMac Pro
2. it's priced much higher, let's say starting at $3599
 
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1. The Studio Display is already targeted at professionals. Go see the unveiling. They didn't show a single use case of this product in a consumer setting. It's highly unlikely they are creating yet another professional tier above the Studio Display.

Maybe you missed this bit. That’s an amateur (consumer) telescope. Sure, the Mac Studio and Studio display are designed primarily for professionals, but the key word is “primarily”. Apple isn’t going to exclude hobbyists who want a fast machine for, say, processing their astrophotos.

And Apple certainly does intend to create a higher tier of professionals, or they wouldn’t have pre-announced the new Mac Pro.


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In a tweet, Young says he's still expecting Apple to release a 27-inch mini-LED display in June and has confirmed such plans with sources within Apple's supply chain. Young had previously said that an iMac Pro would launch as early as summer 2022 but no longer believes that to be the case.

When your leak is proven false, quickly pivot to something that's still possible. Even if the new story makes no sense at all. It buys a few months more in the sun.
 
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That the difference between DCS and uncompressed is "not something to worry about" is a different claim altogether from what I was answering to. I'd argue It's a matter of opinion and that depends on a case-by-case basis.

The original claim was that "DSC is visually lossless, you can't notice it at all". The tests demonstrate that said claim is not correct, since they verify that DCS can indeed be noticed.
Yes technically it‘s possible, but that’s not really a caveat if it affects a total of nobody. For all intents and purposes you can’t notice it at all.
 
Isn't Pro Motion 120 hz refresh rate. There isn't any Mac released right now that can drive 5k at 120 Herz is there. Not even the Mac studio? so even for people who bought a Mac studio they wouldn't be able to drive the studio pro monitor that is coming anyway can they?
 
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Man... Apple could literally RAKE in (more) avalanches of cash if they released a beautiful but affordable aluminum display to accompany their growing array of desktop products without displays. Given that LED panels are relatively "below dirt" cheap, it's amazing to me that Apple can't stick an adequate panel in a beautiful aluminum chassis and sell it for like, I dunno... $599 maybe? A price I consider "very expensive" for a display but within reason for someone wanting visual beauty and continuity for their computer who doesn't earn their living editing video or working at the highest levels of graphic design (or just filthy rich).

I'm not editing the human genome with CRISPR here. I just need to see things clearly, and perhaps unnecessarily, I enjoy matching gear. I have a 32" Samsung 2K that cost $350 and it's great but stick it in an Apple aluminum body and I'd pay $600.

I'll note that I'm a big Apple fan and not PC troll. I use PCs for coding (full stack developer) and gaming, but I use Macs for music. I am happy to air quotes "way over pay" for what I believe to be value, but I just don't need a calibrated display of that quality.
 
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Isn't Pro Motion 120 hz refresh rate. There isn't any Mac released right now that can drive 5k at 120 Herz is there. Not even the Mac studio? so even for people who bought a Mac studio they wouldn't be able to drive the studio pro monitor that is coming anyway can they?
That appears to be correct. Which is why I think the mini-LED 5K panel is for an iMac Pro. It would be internally connected and thus not over Thunderbolt/USB-C. Ross Young has sources in the display panel factories, not final assembly, hence only being able to assume (incorrectly) which final product these panels are destined for.
 
Sono convinto invece che possa essere iMac 27 con mini display led, sarebbe una sciocchezza lanciare dopo 2 mesi una versione Pro anche con 120 hz dello Studio Display, che avrà anche un notevole aumento di prezzo così da avvicinati al Pro Display XDR
 
I don't see how they can announce a better 27 inch display in three months without pissing off the customers who bought Studio Display now except

1. it's a All-in-one like iMac Pro
2. it's priced much higher, let's say starting at $3599
Even if it's priced higher, it's going to piss people off. I would bet that the vast majority of people who bought the new display were hoping for the things that are being rumored here. I'd be annoyed as all hell if I bought this display and in 3 months they released what I really wanted.
 
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I hope this thing isn't crazy expensive because I would like two, and would prefer three. Like I don't need XDR, but dark blacks would be nice since literally every other screen I own is either Mini LED or OLED. And Pro Motion is also nice to have. Can Mini LED really cost that much? I mean, it's in the 12.9" iPad Pro which starts at $1099 and has an M1 computer with it. I hope it starts at $1999-$2199 but realistically it will probably be $2999 because Apple sucks sometimes. For that price I hope it's 32" 6K, but I'll only be able to get one. Wonder what the XDR will get?
 
Given that LED panels are relatively "below dirt" cheap, it's amazing to me that Apple can't stick an adequate panel in a beautiful aluminum chassis and sell it for like, I dunno... $599 maybe?

Why should they? There are dozens, probably hundreds, of adequate displays on the market. Apple wants to sell premium products with high margins, not commodity products with low margins. Putting out a product that’s just as good as the equivalent Walmart-brand product isn’t worth the effort.

It’s the same reason Apple stopped making printers.
 
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Did anyone else look at the Srudio display and go - well that’s where the old 5K iMac panels are going now?

It looks a great product, but how many professionals, programmers will be wanting to get a VR headset from Apple when it comes out? Surely they’d want a ProMotion 90-120Hz monitor for doing so?
Seems ar least some of not all can feel the downgrade back to 60Hz once you’ve had ProMotion (like retina back to say non retina).
A third monitor alongside the launch of the Mac Pro would be interesting.
 
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