So why does the RAM in the new Pro factor into whether your current iPad needs to be upgraded or not?
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So why does the RAM in the new Pro factor into whether your current iPad needs to be upgraded or not?
I use to notice speed difference now speed is defined by updates. Update and you now your iOS device will be slower. A launch day tablet would be as fast as anything for the current times. Would love to see an iPad 2 vs an iPad Air 2 one on iOS 5 one on iOS 9 to see a simple site like google load. Then an updated iPad 2 on iOS9 if somebody could do this type of video it would be interesting.
The thing is, the Pro moniker is just a name, branding to distinguish it from the Air line of iPad that preceded it.
The 9.7" was always going to be marketed to largely the same casual market as the IPad Airs were. After all, it's the replacement for the Air 2, there's not going to be an Air 3.
I don't think the lack of a ram upgrade from the Air 2 is reason not to upgrade. The 9.7" Pro also has a better screen than the Air 2, a better faster processor and graphics chipset, the capability to use the Pencil, better cameras (though who cares about cameras on a tablet.) The list goes on. If none of those features or spec increases appeal, then by all means stick with the Air.
On the flip side, the 12.9" with its bigger screen, more memory, slightly faster chipset, USB 3 speed Lightning port which is fast charge capable. Was, and is, aimed more at the prosumer who wants a little more power and more than anything else wants the bigger screen to work with.
I don't regret my decision to buy the 12.9" Pro a single bit. It was the screen size that was the deciding factor for me, so there's only one choice. I bought it fully expecting there to be a 9.7" iPad Pro within 3 weeks of me buying my Pro but it was all about the awesome screen.
But if I didn't want the bigger screen, I'd still have switched my Air 2 for the better performance and Apple Pencil. Sure a couple of years down the line that 2GB is going to start to feel like far too little. But I'd have upgraded again by then.
The 9.7" was always going to be marketed to largely the same casual market as the IPad Airs were. After all, it's the replacement for the Air 2, there's not going to be an Air 3.
I don't think the lack of a ram upgrade from the Air 2 is reason not to upgrade. The 9.7" Pro also has a better screen than the Air 2, a better faster processor and graphics chipset, the capability to use the Pencil, better cameras (though who cares about cameras on a tablet.) The list goes on. If none of those features or spec increases appeal, then by all means stick with the Air.
On the flip side, the 12.9" with its bigger screen, more memory, slightly faster chipset, USB 3 speed Lightning port which is fast charge capable. Was, and is, aimed more at the prosumer who wants a little more power and more than anything else wants the bigger screen to work with.
I don't regret my decision to buy the 12.9" Pro a single bit. It was the screen size that was the deciding factor for me, so there's only one choice. I bought it fully expecting there to be a 9.7" iPad Pro within 3 weeks of me buying my Pro but it was all about the awesome screen.
But if I didn't want the bigger screen, I'd still have switched my Air 2 for the better performance and Apple Pencil. Sure a couple of years down the line that 2GB is going to start to feel like far too little. But I'd have upgraded again by then.
Ummm? The main reason I wanted to upgrade was for more RAM, but the new iPad Pro doesn't have more RAM, so I don't feel compelled to upgrade. Generally when you upgrade, you want more and better.
I was the same. I'm on an iPad 2 and the reason I'm on an iPad 2 is that when it was released it had a massive improvement in both processing, gpu and RAM, which has given it the longevity I want.
Is Apple the new Trump? Kinda sounds like it. Doesn't matter what he/they say or do they get more and more support.
If longevity of device is important to you then that's the right decision. It's lack of RAM that really hurts iOS devices the most as things advance. But the Pro is still a massive upgrade in terms of processing and graphics performance, in addition to Apple Pencil and Smart Keyboard support.
I don't think anything should be compared to trump. Like...not even the worst people alive right now. He's the new Hitler standard of how we compare bad people
I suspect Apple did this (2 GB RAM instead of 4; under-clocked processor) because otherwise the 9.7 inch IPP would knock the doors off its supposed flagship, the 12.9 IPP.
I, for one, am not buying an underpowered 9.7 that costs almost as much as the 12.9, particularly since I can get the 12.9 for $100 off at Best Buy. Most people won't even know the difference and will buy simply based on the physical size of the device. But for some of us, performance matters!
I, for one, am not buying an underpowered 9.7 that costs almost as much as the 12.9, particularly since I can get the 12.9 for $100 off at Best Buy. Most people won't even know the difference and will buy simply based on the physical size of the device. But for some of us, performance matters!
No politics please.. Some people don't believe everything the liberal media tells us. Trump would be an awesome President, now that's out of the way, back on topic
lol oh geez. You had to go there. Throw a little gasoline on it and then back away
People think!
The Air 2 was considered the next "longevity" model because it was incredibly fast and had 2GB of RAM which was a night and day difference! Now the iPad Pro is insufficient and an "iPad 3" device because it only has 2GB? It's 2x as fast as the "longevity" model with Apple Pencil support!
Yes, it is annoying that their Pro device didn't get the full 4GB of RAM of it's bigger brother, but what major difference are you going to experience? Aside from Safari tabs what major feature are you losing? If you're talking about future software, I really don't think Apple will out date your device soon. Plus, you an't buy now based on what might happen in the future.
What if the 13" iPad had only 2GB? Had Apple never implement 4GB we would never be freaking out.
The Air 2 was considered the next "longevity" model because it was incredibly fast and had 2GB of RAM which was a night and day difference! Now the iPad Pro is insufficient and an "iPad 3" device because it only has 2GB? It's 2x as fast as the "longevity" model with Apple Pencil support!
Yes, it is annoying that their Pro device didn't get the full 4GB of RAM of it's bigger brother, but what major difference are you going to experience? Aside from Safari tabs what major feature are you losing? If you're talking about future software, I really don't think Apple will out date your device soon. Plus, you an't buy now based on what might happen in the future.
What if the 13" iPad had only 2GB? Had Apple never implement 4GB we would never be freaking out.
I wouldn't say it's a massive CPU and GPU upgrade. It's only around 1.7x faster than the Air 2 in both CPU and GPU. That is faster, but that's just a typical upgrade every year.
Honestly, now that there's no extra RAM to look forward to, the only reasons I'd really want to upgrade are for the screen, since it's much less reflective AND gets brighter than the iPad Air 2, and "Hey Siri". The speakers, cameras, and processor would both be nice, but they're just lagniappe for me and not reasons to upgrade.
You said it yourself ->Was<-, now a 4GB device exists it is stupid to buy a 2GB, it is THE single most important feature in the iPads for longevity. It would be like buying a 1GB when the iPad Air 2 came out (1GB device didn't get all those multitasking improvements). What when iOS 10-11 comes out and they say all device without 4GB won't get multiuser/fast user switching/insert-new-feature? Not looking into the future is stupid, it is waste of money.
That's the problem though. We know 4GB is now starting to be pushed into products, so 2GB is already on the path to being phased out.
If the new iPhones have 4GB later this year (or least more than 2GB) then you should worry. If not, then it's not a problem for another year because the vast majority of apps as well as iOS are all optimised according to iPhone specs.
But when 2GB came about, 1GB devices were struggling and had been around for 4 years. 2GB is still new and no 2GB device is suffering.
Also, 2GB came out on the mainstream product. 4GB currently only exists on the high-end niche device, not the mainstream device intended to be adopted by all buyers.
And THIS is why Apple doesn't publish RAM specs. To avoid THIS.
Sigh.
Sigh.
You post the same stuff again and again. Complaining but then stating you will probably buy it anyway. Why complain? Don't buy it. Buy something else.
When a company controls the software and the hardware, it's a much better experience and you don't need excess. Ever wonder why Android needs all those beefy specs? Any ideas? Want a clue?
Yeah to avoid people realising that they are skimping on what is a very expensive and supposedly 'Pro'.
The people who actually care are going to find out anyway, so they aren't avoiding anything.
I think we need to step back from the whole "Pro" marketing nonsense.
This new iPad really is an iPad Air 2 with upgraded specs, that happens to come with Pencil and connector support. Thinking of it as a "Pro" just forces comparisons with the 12.9" iPad Pro, which really is mostly psychological.
What I see different is that Apple removed the 32GB option and essentially doubled
16 => 32GB
64 => 128GB
128 => 256GB
along with a rather anomalous price hike.
Ignore the Smart Connector and the Pencil support (along with the extra cost of these accessories), and you end up with something that makes more sense as an Air 2 successor - because if you really look closely, it has the exact same ergonomics and battery life, only it has an upgraded processor, display, speakers and camera module.
What it lacks is the 4GB RAM, USB 3, higher resolution and screen size of the iPad Pro 12.9". Convince yourself that these as what truly makes a "Pro" device (or don't, if you're in the iOS-sucks camp...).
The only thing to "rail against" for the new iPad is just the annoying price hike. To me - just vote with your wallets. Don't buy it at launch. Wait for the price to fall to the same as the previous iPad price points (and/or lower), then buy it.
And I'm pretty sure this will happen. iPhones have often been a difficult bet for price drops, but the iPad has seen price drops very rapidly and frequently.
This way, you'll really be buying an iPad Air 3. Which is really what this is ultimately.
This new iPad really is an iPad Air 2 with upgraded specs, that happens to come with Pencil and connector support. Thinking of it as a "Pro" just forces comparisons with the 12.9" iPad Pro, which really is mostly psychological.
What I see different is that Apple removed the 32GB option and essentially doubled
16 => 32GB
64 => 128GB
128 => 256GB
along with a rather anomalous price hike.
Ignore the Smart Connector and the Pencil support (along with the extra cost of these accessories), and you end up with something that makes more sense as an Air 2 successor - because if you really look closely, it has the exact same ergonomics and battery life, only it has an upgraded processor, display, speakers and camera module.
What it lacks is the 4GB RAM, USB 3, higher resolution and screen size of the iPad Pro 12.9". Convince yourself that these as what truly makes a "Pro" device (or don't, if you're in the iOS-sucks camp...).
The only thing to "rail against" for the new iPad is just the annoying price hike. To me - just vote with your wallets. Don't buy it at launch. Wait for the price to fall to the same as the previous iPad price points (and/or lower), then buy it.
And I'm pretty sure this will happen. iPhones have often been a difficult bet for price drops, but the iPad has seen price drops very rapidly and frequently.
This way, you'll really be buying an iPad Air 3. Which is really what this is ultimately.
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