With all the sales on the full size IPP, it seems like a better deal to get the larger one. Plus, the 12.9 IPP is available now.
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2GB RAM, Apple takes us for granted?
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the same thing was said about the 4" iphone...that was big enough..............................
I can see 2GB LPDDR4 vs 2GB LPDDR3 (from the Air 2) being an upgrade...is it really necessary to have 4GB? Isn't the LPDDR4 twice as fast as the R3? Which makes it faster than the Air2 that everyone said was lightning fast...!
I don't know, there's a degree of that to be sure. But with well over 200 million sold to date not to mention how many go for the much cheaper Android alternatives. I don't think a lack of interest is fully to blame.
I think a great deal of normal (outside of the people on these forums) people are content with the one they have. So long as it keeps doing what they need it to they see no need to get a new one. I know people who are still perfectly happy with an iPad 2, imagine the horror
I also think that speaks to Apples mindset regarding the RAM. How many normal consumers do you suppose give a flying fig about how much RAM is in their devices. Based on my (albeit limited) experience, not an awful lot.
iOS is probably the single most memory efficient mobile operating system there is. It'll cope perfectly fine for the vast majority of consumers with just 2GB. The only people likely to be kicking up a fuss are the ones who visit forums such as this.
That is exactly what I did, MINT open box at BB for $550. Apple can keep their new one, not worth it obviously especially with that deal.
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And people are holding onto their older iPad and buying larger iphones is one reason why iPad sales are down.
Apple doesn't advertise the amount of RAM. Why does this spec matter now (iOS devices have always had less RAM vs Android devices)?
Page refreshes in Safari can be fixed by using the flash storage as cache. It is a software problem that Apple can fix (but hasn't for years).
People often defend Apple saying they don’t want to get into technical stuff. BS. They mention some even more technical stuff that almost nobody cares about (transistor count, type of transistors, chip die area, fabrication node…). You’re going to tell me your 64-bit 128mm2 chip uses over 3 billion non-planar 16nm 3D FinFet transistors, but omit RAM completely, really?
It all comes down to this.
Once people stop buying Apple products against their better judgement, things will change.
In the mean time, Apple is not in the business of giving away free RAM or other features. They always have, and always will, give people as little in the way of specs and features as possible, while still maintaining interest, relevance, and usability to a majority of customers, at maximum profit.
Spec geeks are not Apple's target audience and never will be. Spec geeks cram as much RAM as physically possible into anything they can. Apple does not. That's why Apple is the wealthiest company on the planet and spec geeks are um, spec geeks.
I don't know, there's a degree of that to be sure. But with well over 200 million sold to date not to mention how many go for the much cheaper Android alternatives. I don't think a lack of interest is fully to blame.
I think a great deal of normal (outside of the people on these forums) people are content with the one they have. So long as it keeps doing what they need it to they see no need to get a new one. I know people who are still perfectly happy with an iPad 2, imagine the horror
I also think that speaks to Apples mindset regarding the RAM. How many normal consumers do you suppose give a flying fig about how much RAM is in their devices. Based on my (albeit limited) experience, not an awful lot.
iOS is probably the single most memory efficient mobile operating system there is. It'll cope perfectly fine for the vast majority of consumers with just 2GB. The only people likely to be kicking up a fuss are the ones who visit forums such as this.
Gotta agree. I'm a retired s/w engineer and the people I worked with obsessed over specs, new tech. etc., many times without any regard to actual usage. People I knew outside of work who were non-tech people - they could care less as long as the device did what they wanted (usually not stressing-type of applications), was reliable, and had decent battery life. They wouldn't know the difference between RAM or ROM and could care less.
Scratch that. I'll either get a discounted big iPad Pro without sales tax or skip another iPad year. Yes, 2gb ram is a GAME changer
I love how they were talking at the presentation about "sad" old Windows PCs and how the iPad "Pro" can replace them, then they release this so called "pro" device which has half the amount of memory compared to the "sad" old Windows 11.6" ultrabook that my wife has been using for eons. It still works fine and boots Windows in no time flat thanks to the 256GB SSD I dropped in there. Only cost about a hundred bucks for that SSD - a far cry from what Apple charges for extra storage. What we paid for that laptop back then combined with the SSD upgrade is still less than what Apple wants for the 9.7" iPad Pro. Nice one Apple. Nice one.
I'll just keep using what I already have and spend my money on something else.
I'll just keep using what I already have and spend my money on something else.
In the end of the day and quarter that's how they still make money. Thanx to customers like you that always complain, but still pull the trigger SMH.
Like I said if you are not happy what Apple is doing just take your business somewhere else Samsung, LG etc. They have plenty of devices with the amount of rams that you want.
I change my mind. I will not buy an iPad Pro with 2gb ram. Straight slap in face..
Well I for one will not jump ship to the Android bandwagon. I never liked the interface in their devices (usually when a friend gets a new Galaxy or such, they ask me for help on setting up wallpaper, pictures etc...). Not the way I like interacting and using apps. Since the RAM debacle, I may go with that sale and buy the big one for $50 more than what the 9.7 goes for since it seems like the most bang for the buck as far as iPads go. Or I'll wait it out another year and keep chugging along with my four year old iPad 3 but I really want a new one before my upcoming trip to the UK....
Again, if 2GB is such a deal-breaker, there are great deals on the bigger iPad Pro. And it has 4 GB of RAM.
Screens improve quickly. When software impproves, it doesn't necessarily mean more RAM is needed. It isn't as if there are a lot of things for Apple to add to iOS. iPad OS, on the other hand ...
I'm just stunned at how much people want to whinge about things that don't really matter all that much.
Now before anyone shoots that comment down in flames. Take a second to consider how many iPad 2's there are likely still in use. Probably millions. There's a device with 512MB of RAM, running iOS 9 and people, certainly people I know are perfectly happy with it.
iOS is a perfectly capable system with 2GB of RAM. It's perfectly capable with a lot less than that. There may be a bit more reloading of pages in Safari and things like that. The majority of normal consumers don't care.
iOS is not Android, it's not Windows, it doesn't need multiple GB of memory to function well. It can cope and will cope with 2GB of ram for the foreseeable future.
I upgraded to an iPad Pro 12.9" for the screen size. If it only had 2GB of memory, I still would have. I'm a pretty heavy duty user and on top of what I use in my personal life, I also use them in the development of my apps.
Not once when I had my iPad Air 2 (or any of the older ones at the time) did I encounter a use when I thought, oh this just doesn't have enough memory, woe is me its a disaster. Quite the opposite, a lot of the time when I'm debugging and I can see what is using memory and how much. I'm surprised at just how much memory is sitting unused. iOS is a very frugal OS, it's designed specifically to work well within the limits of the hardware.
Apple don't sit down and say, let's make it so that the system needs 8GB of memory to work at it's best, but we know that the majority of people have 1GB or less, hahahahaha, to hell with them. No, they optimise the arse out of iOS so that it doesn't need masses of memory.
There may be some apps that when under stress use a lot of memory. That's fine, iOS frees up what it needs to keep things running along and then redistributes that memory again when the usage changes.
If there were no way for us to discover the amount of memory on any of the iOS devices, we would all just buy them, use them and be happy with what it does, because they will do what they were designed to do.
Now before anyone shoots that comment down in flames. Take a second to consider how many iPad 2's there are likely still in use. Probably millions. There's a device with 512MB of RAM, running iOS 9 and people, certainly people I know are perfectly happy with it.
iOS is a perfectly capable system with 2GB of RAM. It's perfectly capable with a lot less than that. There may be a bit more reloading of pages in Safari and things like that. The majority of normal consumers don't care.
iOS is not Android, it's not Windows, it doesn't need multiple GB of memory to function well. It can cope and will cope with 2GB of ram for the foreseeable future.
I upgraded to an iPad Pro 12.9" for the screen size. If it only had 2GB of memory, I still would have. I'm a pretty heavy duty user and on top of what I use in my personal life, I also use them in the development of my apps.
Not once when I had my iPad Air 2 (or any of the older ones at the time) did I encounter a use when I thought, oh this just doesn't have enough memory, woe is me its a disaster. Quite the opposite, a lot of the time when I'm debugging and I can see what is using memory and how much. I'm surprised at just how much memory is sitting unused. iOS is a very frugal OS, it's designed specifically to work well within the limits of the hardware.
Apple don't sit down and say, let's make it so that the system needs 8GB of memory to work at it's best, but we know that the majority of people have 1GB or less, hahahahaha, to hell with them. No, they optimise the arse out of iOS so that it doesn't need masses of memory.
There may be some apps that when under stress use a lot of memory. That's fine, iOS frees up what it needs to keep things running along and then redistributes that memory again when the usage changes.
If there were no way for us to discover the amount of memory on any of the iOS devices, we would all just buy them, use them and be happy with what it does, because they will do what they were designed to do.
The problem is that most people here have seen a device with 4 and assume anything lower won't work well. Also, they forget that 2gb coming from even a 1gb device provides such a better experience. Everyone is just asking the question "should I upgrade from my Air 2".
I'd like to see the data on how the new 2GB LPDDR4 runs compared to the LPDDR3 in the Air 2. If it's 1.5X or 2X as fast then it is an upgrade. Worth upgrading from an Air2? That depends on the current utilization people are doing with their Air2. But I doubt they are running out of mem!
Yeah that's sort of what I'm getting at. 2GB is plenty in an iOS device and will be for quite a while. The Air 2 is still an extremely capable device and a very good buy that will serve you for years to come. If it weren't for the 12.9" screen of the iPad Pro, I'd still have my Air 2 and I'd be perfectly happy with it.
The real questions that should be considered for upgrading are, do I want a faster chipset, do I want to use the Pencil and maybe, will the true tone display be of use to me.
If the answer to any of those three is a yes, then the 9.7" Pro is likely a worthy investment to you that will provide the improvement you seek. The memory is a non issue.
If none of those things really matter to you, stick with or buy an Air 2. It's still a brilliant iPad with plenty of power under the hood.
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Because the companies who make the operating system don't devote the time, care and attention to make sure older hardware still performs well that Apple do.
Instead they do whatever they want and tell users that in order to use it, they have to upgrade their system. Something I remember all too well from my days of dos-> Windows 3.1 -> Windows 95 -> Windows 98 -> Windows me -> Windows XP -> Windows Vista. Every single one required me to upgrade my hardware. Even when I made the transition to being solely a Mac user I noticed a difference with the operating system.
Even now I'm using an almost 5 year old iMac and it's still flying along through various OS X revisions (although admittedly I kitted it out with 32GB of RAM just after I bought it, but that's all I've done.) it's quite a difference from the God knows how many thousands I had to spend constantly upgrading or replacing my Windows systems.
RAM matters. My iPhone 6 Plus and iPad Mini 2 were always a tad laggy ... now after iOS 9 I can't even type in the browser field without lag. No way in hell that had to happen. So don't pretend like they care across the board or that they are giving us all the RAM we need. Other phones have been putting in more RAM for years ... because it doesn't cost much to do!!!!
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