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People on forums like this are over reacting about 2 Gb of ram on the new iPad Pro.
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2GB RAM, Apple takes us for granted?
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5 pages open on safari, mail and iTranslate on background and nothing is refreshing.
People on forums like this are over reacting about 2 Gb of ram on the new iPad Pro.
The beautiful thing about all this is that in this very thread (and others) we have people whose needs the 9,7" iPad Pro doesn't meet right now, who can therefore skip it and wait for a product that does meet their needs. Just like when 128 gigabytes was the most storage you could get on the 12,9" iPad Pro, and people who needed more storage were wise and did not buy it because it didn't meet their needs. Apple delivered to many of those people this week with the 256 gigabyte 12,9" iPad Pro and Apple will undoubtedly deliver to those who want more RAM in the 9'7" iPad Pro too, eventually.
I'm still rocking a 2010 iMac myself, because I don't want to upgrade to a less performant computer and for a while now I've been fairly certain my next computer will be a notebook. It just needs to perform better than my iMac. And have a retina screen. And be able to output image to an external screen and be charged at the same time. And be highly portable, because if I'm not willing to lug it around I can just go with a newer iMac. And not to break the bank while doing all of this.
Apple doesn't yet offer that notebook, but they eventually will. Time fixes all of those things, even when it comes to Apple.
I'm still rocking a 2010 iMac myself, because I don't want to upgrade to a less performant computer and for a while now I've been fairly certain my next computer will be a notebook. It just needs to perform better than my iMac. And have a retina screen. And be able to output image to an external screen and be charged at the same time. And be highly portable, because if I'm not willing to lug it around I can just go with a newer iMac. And not to break the bank while doing all of this.
Apple doesn't yet offer that notebook, but they eventually will. Time fixes all of those things, even when it comes to Apple.
There is nothing underpowered in the new iPad Pro.
The slightly lower clocked A9X on the smaller device is because Apple care about thermal behavior of their device: they don't want your iPad throttle like all the competitors under heavy loads.
Indeed 4 Gb would have been better, but I don't think 2 Gb aren't adequate for the iPad Pro.
.... No. People bought the 128 gigabyte model because there was no indication Apple would increase the storage in less than 6 months. No one "needs" 256GB. It simply makes things that much more convenient than having to constantly swap files in and out.
Or maybe I'm missing something? What use case exists that requires 256gb on the iPad Pro that cannot also be achieved by (tediously) deleting and swapping files in and out...?
As of today NOT A SINGLE APP required 2 Gb to run. They all are targeted at 1 Gb devices.
4 Gb currently exists only on the iPad Pro 12", with a much larger display and higher resolution.
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Quite sure the next iPad Pro will have 4 Gb of ram.
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It actually was big enough, until 2014.
And a couple days ago they launched another 4" device that will probably sell better than most (if not all) the competitor's flagships...
Of course it matters, no one, myself included is disputing that.
All I'm saying is that 2GB is nowhere close to being an issue for iOS. Both of the devices you mention have 1GB of memory, you'll notice a difference switching to a device that has 2GB of memory. Other phones get more memory thrown into them because they need more than iOS does to keep things flowing. That's not a theory, its a fact.
Look at the Microsoft Lumia 950 XL, another device with a quite memory efficient OS. It has 3GB of RAM (Indeed Windows Phone OS will, and does, work fine with less than that as well) Heck, even a lot of Android phones are coming with 3GB of RAM now, since Google started optimising Android.
There's plenty of Android devices that come with significantly more memory than that, many of them for reasons known only to themselves are still outfitting their devices with old, outdated versions of Android. And that's before we even get to the bloatware and customised home screens that all eat up lots of memory. That's why there tends to be more memory in them, they need it. iOS doesn't.
Then we can also take into account the completely unnecessary adding of massive amounts of RAM, ridiculously high resolution screens that the human eye cant tell the difference between in such small devices and all the rest of the nonsense that's thrown into phones just to make them sound better than the competition.
Android phones have a bugger of a time competing because there are so many of them and so many different manufacturers. Apple on the other hand competes with itself of the most part. Of course they want to lure Android and Windows phone users into the iOS eco-system, but they don't do that by stuffing their devices full of over the top unnecessary things. They do it by building solid hardware that can serve the user for years and by providing an operating system that can evolve and be useable without the need to constantly upgrade.
That's the key word actually, useable. As I've already mentioned, I personally know dozens of people who are running iOS devices with 1GB or less memory. They have no problems with that at all, with the exception of a couple of them they couldn't even tell you how much memory is in their device. Heck theres a few couldn't even tell you what iPad they have, its just an iPad to them. It works for them, they browse the net, send some emails, faff about with photos and so on and it works, they're happy.
Now people like you an I, along with a massive proportion of the people on here, are very different to those people. We know the ins and outs of the devices. We want more power regardless, in general, the more the better.
I don't know how you're experiencing such problems with your 6+, I'm still using a 6+ and I have no issues with how it performs. Of course we will likely be visiting different websites, using different apps. But I run a huge amount of apps and games on mine, switch between them in the blink of an eye and carry on whatever I'm doing in each of them without anything that bothers me. There's occasional reloading of course, but it takes less than a couple of seconds, so I'm hardly going to get frustrated with it. (out of curiosity, is your device Jailbroken or anything, I'm just curious why you find it so slow.)
So all I'm saying is, were not all the same, and we (the people on these forums) are likely the minority, the vast public at large just don't care about whats inside our magic little boxes, they just know it works. And....and that's all I'm saying, my morphine has kicked in (sorry, that's what makes me waffle on. Well that combined with the rest of my medication I have to take, it could kill a horse, literally, goodness knows what it does to me
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Exactly
Still have to see any safari page to refresh on my 2 Gb iDevices...
People won't upgrade from the Air 2 due to ram limitations, because there aren't any.
The air 2 still is a powerful device. Upgraders will do that based on Pencil or keyboard support, more computational power .... or just because they want the latest and greatest.
dont forget about the huge amount of iPads 2 still alive.
I'm still using an iPad 2 and it's updated to iOS9. It's slow but still usable. I'm disappointed that it doesn't have 4GB of ram like the larger Pro simply for future proofing reasons, but I will still buy the 9.7 Pro when it comes out because I'm ready to upgrade from my iPad 2. The 12 Pro is too big for what I want, and the Mini 4 is too small. I considered the Air 2, but for $100 more (the 64GB Air 2 vs. the 32GB Pro 9.7) I'm buying the latest release. 32GB is plenty large enough for me. I understand the size differences and that you're actually paying more for less storage, but we're all limited by what Apple offers in sizes. I've got to believe if my iPad 2 is still working, this new Pro model will be usable four years from now. By then I'll be ready for the latest and greatest anyway.
I use my 128GB iPad Air EVERY DAY. I'm typing this on it. It is my main computing device and it is rarely ever more than a few feet away from me. I have it stuffed full with movies, music, equipment manuals, photos, lots of apps, etc, etc. Never any issues with it. It has a few limitations compared to a laptop, but the convenience and portability put it well above a laptop for my use. How much RAM does it have?
The new ipad has double the RAM of the original Air. It will be fine. But honestly the only thing the new ipad pro has that could temp me to get it is the 256GB of storage.
The new ipad has double the RAM of the original Air. It will be fine. But honestly the only thing the new ipad pro has that could temp me to get it is the 256GB of storage.
That confirms what I was trying to spit out. People are refusing to upgrade or buy the iPad pro 9.7 based on RAM numbers. Every one has a right to express their concern, but to me this 2GB statement is irrelevant as a reason for not upgrading. The newer flash storage and faster LPDDR4 RAM is bullet proof for many years.
Not by simply being in the presence of faster ones.
My point was that if the Air 2 is still fast and doesn't need to be replaced that's true whether the new model has 4GB or not.
Ars already has early benchmarks in their early impressions article. Seems to suggest that the RAM on the 9.7 Pro is 50% faster than the Air 2. That's not bad. The 12.9 is twice as fast as the Air 2 (30% faster than the 9.7 Pro), which I suspect is more about RAM interleaving. The Integer and Floating Point results are nearly identical as well, which is interesting. I don't know what all fits into the "overall" rating, but that pegs the 12.9 as ~6% faster than the 9.7. And how much of that is just from the faster RAM?
But is it the physical RAM, or is it the speed of that RAM, or is it bad choices in the software? With the 6+, you have a weird situation where throughput is a genuine concern. Adding RAM doesn't make your GPU any faster, nor does it make the RAM itself faster. Both of which I think are problems when working with the pixel buffers that the 6+ was pushing around. It wasn't just the larger buffers, but then the need to downscale when displaying to the screen, and the fact the OS waits on all this before your next event gets handled by an app. It also doesn't help when typing in the browser field is doing a lot of lookups that don't even really get better with RAM (network access in particular).
The idea of adding RAM making things faster works on PCs because of the swap/page file. Where if you can avoid using the swap, you get more speed. iOS doesn't use a swap file, and apps simply crash or are killed when RAM runs out. So adding RAM doesn't buy you speed, it buys you headroom for things like multitasking, it buys you headroom for split screen, more browser tabs, etc. It may even make larger screens more feasible, but it doesn't make those larger screens faster.
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