Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Status
Not open for further replies.
I can play mp4 files but with m4v files there are issues. Pausing and resuming doesn't always work..
I am not searching for the same apps, but I expect that all of my computers communicate on a certain level and interoperate...

Did you try Airdroid? Connects to your phone from your mac/ipad, you can message anyone from your mac and iPad and other things.

Like how you can go on google play store from mac and iPad and download a app to your phone, no syncing with iTunes.
 
Did you try Airdroid? Connects to your phone from your mac/ipad, you can message anyone from your mac and iPad and other things.

Like how you can go on google play store from mac and iPad and download a app to your phone, no syncing with iTunes.

Yes, I have AirDroid.
 
Yes, I have AirDroid.

Like i said maybe the S5 would of been better for you at least you can get photos onto iPhoto by syncing and android transfer works.
I have had note 3, Moto G, and now M8 and S5 in last 6 weeks and have to admit the S5 fits into my Apple set up best. M8 is worst of those.
 
Like i said maybe the S5 would of been better for you at least you can get photos onto iPhoto by syncing and android transfer works.
I have had note 3, Moto G, and now M8 and S5 in last 6 weeks and have to admit the S5 fits into my Apple set up best. M8 is worst of those.

I use Aperture and not iPhoto
 
Sorry, I just disagree with that. If your spending $600+ on a device, unless there is a clear advantage, I don't see why you would make someone relearn how do things they can already do and know how to do on their current device. Especially when you only have a 14 day return window.

So if all you do is surf the web, check email, and sms, I don't see the point in going to the trouble of relearning a new system if your current phone is just as capable of doing those things.

Its like what windows phone is facing now (or at least before 8.1), where why would you relearn and adjust to a new system if it doesn't work better for you from the get go? I'm not talking about people who like the way windows phone work, but I'm talking about people who pick it up and don't like it, why should they spend their money and "give it a chance" unless there is a clear advantage for them to do so? And why should they if all their going to do is the same things they were already doing on their old phone? So they spend a month or 2 relearning and readjusting and adapting their habits just to do the exact same things?

Now, if your switching because you see a clear advantage to the new system, then yes an adjustment period is needed, but with only two weeks you really need to nail down your new work flow within a week so you have a couple of days with it afterwards to see if you like it.

If thats all our doing you dont need to relearn anything. Theres nothing really different about doing those things, though you do have more options you can do with those things. So saying your making somebody relearn something is very inacurate.
In that case you are spending the money to have a bigger screen and a device that does more things and you will discover those things as you use it.
Windows phones also work very well and to do those simple things you mentioned isnt very hard to learn either. Those are basic functions of any smartphone.

Maybe you dont like a little change and are a same ol, same ol kinda guy. I dont know. I like something different every now and then.
 
I use Aperture and not iPhoto

Don't they go together? Sync into iphotos show up in Aperture

----------

If thats all our doing you dont need to relearn anything. Theres nothing really different about doing those things, though you do have more options you can do with those things. So saying your making somebody relearn something is very inacurate.
In that case you are spending the money to have a bigger screen and a device that does more things and you will discover those things as you use it.
Windows phones also work very well and to do those simple things you mentioned isnt very hard to learn either. Those are basic functions of any smartphone.

Maybe you dont like a little change and are a same ol, same ol kinda guy. I dont know. I like something different every now and then.

It takes me months to learn about a new gadget, it doesn't happen over night
 
Almost 3 years, and I'm still learning something new with Android. I don't think 3 weeks is enough to really know any OS. It is like watching a movie only once. You miss out on most of the subtleties the first time. Android isn't really about apps. It is about the tweaking the details to your liking.
 
Don't they go together? Sync into iphotos show up in Aperture

----------



It takes me months to learn about a new gadget, it doesn't happen over night

You can open the Aperture library in iPhoto, but then it gets significantly larger and slower..

----------

Almost 3 years, and I'm still learning something new with Android. I don't think 3 weeks is enough to really know any OS. It is like watching a movie only once. You miss out on most of the subtleties the first time. Android isn't really about apps. It is about the tweaking the details to your liking.

I am not interested in rooting, modding or tweaking.
 
You can open the Aperture library in iPhoto, but then it gets significantly larger and slower..

----------



I am not interested in rooting, modding or tweaking.

Tweaking is different than rooting/modding. I wouldn't root or mod don't know how. Sounds like you have a answer for everything. If you want pats on the back you should of put this thread in the iPhone section. You would of been cheered:)
 
You can open the Aperture library in iPhoto, but then it gets significantly larger and slower..

----------



I am not interested in rooting, modding or tweaking.

If you are using Apple eco-systems, iphone is passable in terms of functionality.

If you are not using Apple eco-systems, iphone is a just total nightmare.
 
If thats all our doing you dont need to relearn anything. Theres nothing really different about doing those things, though you do have more options you can do with those things. So saying your making somebody relearn something is very inacurate.
In that case you are spending the money to have a bigger screen and a device that does more things and you will discover those things as you use it.
Windows phones also work very well and to do those simple things you mentioned isnt very hard to learn either. Those are basic functions of any smartphone.

Maybe you dont like a little change and are a same ol, same ol kinda guy. I dont know. I like something different every now and then.

If you can see my sig, you can tell I change phones quite regularly, and I've used every major OS the last couple of years except the new windows 8.1 and Blackberry 10, so no I'm not afraid of change or stick to same ol, same ol.

And I'm also not talking about just switching from iOS to android, which you assumed, I'm talking in general switching from one platform to another, or even switching from one Android skin to another. So if your used to android and decide to try an iPhone, I don't think its fair to tell some one to spend hundreds of dollars and to figure out a new way of doing things and stick with it in the chance they will eventually "get it" and like it better than Android after a month or so, when they can't return it anymore.

Same if someone is used to the workflow on touchwiz. I may hate touchwiz personally, but if someone who was using a GS4 decided to get an M8 and after a couple of days didn't like the way things worked on Sense, such as no multi window, no quick settings on the main notifications bar or even just the layout of the launcher, I'm not going to tell that person to stick with it just because I personally feel Sense is much better, I will give them the work arounds and if they don't feel like having to do those work arounds and learning the nuances, then by all means they should return it and get a GS5 before their return window closes.

Also, as I stated, unless there is a clear advantage to the end user there is no point in relearning or "getting used to" the new system. A larger screen, added options, or even a change to use something new is a clear advantage if thats what the person wants.

But, if lets say my parents who are using an iPhone got talked into buying an android phone and they don't like it after a couple of days, I'm not going to tell them to stick with it and force them into keeping the phones to give it a chance, I'll tell them to return it and get an iPhone unless there was something about the android phones that they wanted more that's not available on the iPhone, like a larger screen. If that larger screen trumps the iPhone then there will be growing pains getting used to android they will have to learn, but if the larger screen isn't worth it then by all means they should get something they'll be happy with and not "stick with it" in hope that after a couple of months they'll be happy with it.

Also, yes even with those simple things I mentioned there is a nuance with how they work on the different systems. Someone used to android may get confused about why some texts are green and some are blue on iOS. Some one used to the badge system of notifications on iOS may not like how live tiles clear out their notifications after you open the app or that there are no badges on android.Heck, I know some people who like the old style notifications on iOS that interrupt you every time with a pop up. Contacts are shown differently, favorites in your browser are handled differently, on iOS there is a favorites button on the bottom where as on android you have to click the menu button and then select favorites. To us these things are trivial, to others they may not be. So yes, even those simple tasks there is a learning curve, to some it may take 2 seconds to get used to, to others it may bug them for months having to get used to the new way of doing things.
 
Last edited:
I am not interested in rooting, modding or tweaking.
This is what it came down to for me. I used Android for 4 years and enjoyed it mostly, but when the iPhone 5 was due to come out I thought I would try it. I haven't really looked back if I am honest as iOS does pretty much everything I need it to and very reliably and well. I wasn't interested in rooting my Android phones as I shouldn't have had to. If someone wants a no fuss smartphone that does exactly what is says on the tin, then get an iPhone. Android is great if you feel you want to customise to your hearts content and 'tinker' around. You can get a little more involved with Android too, but it doesn't have many things I have missed. I think the lack of sharing options on iOS has been my biggest gripe, however there are workarounds in these rare cases. Its good you gave it a go and you are more confident in your choice :)
 
In Australia once you buy a phone from a store, online or get from a carrier, bar 1 which is the worst carrier, and you open it unless there is a fault you can't return it. So you have to use it or re sell it.

Except for Apple and their 14 day return policy.
 
In Australia once you buy a phone from a store, online or get from a carrier, bar 1 which is the worst carrier, and you open it unless there is a fault you can't return it. So you have to use it or re sell it.

Except for Apple and their 14 day return policy.

Wow, that really sucks. it also reaffirms my point even more, as there you only get the chance to play with a demo in the store before making your decision.
 
In Australia once you buy a phone from a store, online or get from a carrier, bar 1 which is the worst carrier, and you open it unless there is a fault you can't return it. So you have to use it or re sell it.

Except for Apple and their 14 day return policy.

It's much the same in the UK. I always buy my phones outright and would love to find somewhere I can buy the M8 and return it for a full refund within 14 days if I don't like it. Over here you can't even try the phone properly in store as they have it so securely locked down that you can't pick it up to try operating it one handed. This is one of the reasons I have stayed with the iPhone, you just can't beat Apple's customer service. Why is there no other company that has sufficient confidence in their own products to offer the same sort of service?
 
It's much the same in the UK. I always buy my phones outright and would love to find somewhere I can buy the M8 and return it for a full refund within 14 days if I don't like it. Over here you can't even try the phone properly in store as they have it so securely locked down that you can't pick it up to try operating it one handed. This is one of the reasons I have stayed with the iPhone, you just can't beat Apple's customer service. Why is there no other company that has sufficient confidence in their own products to offer the same sort of service?

Huh? Amazon and Carphone Warehouse will both let you return phones within a certain time period if bought online and that's just from 5 minutes of Googling.... So i'm sure they arn't alone in that regard.
 
why? you can install itunes on windows and sync with no issues

Why would I connect my phone to my computer to sync? That hasn't been necessary in a while now. ITunes is terrible on a PC as well and you don't get photo stream.
 
Why would I connect my phone to my computer to sync? That hasn't been necessary in a while now. ITunes is terrible on a PC as well and you don't get photo stream.

You get photo stream on windows. And you don't need iTunes to get it, just the iCloud settings panel.
 
Comparing photostream to Dropbox is apples and oranges. One is designed to seed other devices the other is a long term file storage service.

Better saying iOS has photostream while Android doesn't (that's if you ignore Google+'s way of doing it).
 
Comparing photostream to Dropbox is apples and oranges. One is designed to seed other devices the other is a long term file storage service.

Better saying iOS has photostream while Android doesn't (that's if you ignore Google+'s way of doing it).

Why would you ignore the Google+ way of doing it though? not being a smart arse just wondering on your reasoning.
 
Why would you ignore the Google+ way of doing it though? not being a smart arse just wondering on your reasoning.

When I start Aperture I have direct access to Photostream. Google+ can be synced with a Mac desktop on a folder, but since I already use DropBox for a lot of things, i went that way..
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.