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Let's explore a few more great ideas that iphone has:

- centralized settings. Apple must thought this one out thoroughly. When you use it you also can keep your eyes and finger healthy by exercising them with lengthy scrolling and looking to find what you want. It also lets you take a break from what you doing with the current app by making you exit and reopen the app again.

- locate the back button at the top left. Again let you exercise your thumb more and keep it healthy.

- when you uninstall an app also delete all your important data at the same time. Reason being to train you to accept losses and learn to start over again with dignity.

- Removed the menu and back button. Fill 1/3 the usable screen space with navigation strip and command buttons and reduces effective viewing area/information so that user won't have information overload.

- have main screen have only grid of icons to help user learn an important life lesson that is life is ultimately very boring.
 
Tabs reload on Android too...

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Maybe I wrote it wrong. I meant that if my hand accidentally touches the edge of the screen, the touches get registered.

Yeah, I think some of the browsers on Android don't reload webpages, or so I read somewhere once, but I like Chrome. It would be alright if when the tabs reload they refresh the website as well! As I understand it's all to do with the RAM these devices have.
Also weather accidental touches are a problem or not I guess depends on the overall tablet design, like one with thin bezels could have a problem with that as opposed to one with thicker bezels. I don't know why Android doesn't have the system as I don't think Apple invented it, just used it?
 
After using Android for a few months, there are 3 things I miss about iPhone. The first two I consider fairly major limitations of Android. The 3rd is relatively minor.

1) Transferring basic data & configurations from an old phone to new phone works superbly with iPhone/iCloud. On Android, whilst stuff like contacts & calender pose no problems, transferring other stuff like text messages and home screen shortcuts & folders is clunky and depends on 3rd party apps.

2) I much prefer the centralized management of notification settings in iOS over the way it is done within app settings (which varies from app to app) in Android.

3) I miss the ability that iOS provides to define selected words when I'm reading.

However, at the moment, these reasons aren't enough for me to switch back.
 
The nice thing about Android is that you can do things that you couldn't with iOS unless you had a jailbreak. I love my M8 and may keep it and sell my iPhone 5s. No matter what, when a jailbreak is released for iOS 8 I will be purchasing an iPhone 6.

When I get the M8, I will sell my 5s as well. I do not jaibreak, I have an IPad and it suffices for IOS.
 
My favorite iOS feature: the absolutely worthless notification center. You know what's awesome? When you get a bunch of texts, answer them, and then your notification pulldown is still full of alerts that you have to manually delete. Even better is having no way of having persistent notifications to denote apps that are perpetually open (skype, for example).

Then let's talk about the joy of not being able to change any default apps. One of iOS's strengths, and I mean this genuinely, is how well it's all integrated with itself, but the problem is that you can't opt for anything else. Sure, there are other browsers, but there's no way to take links directly to them. Use a different email client? Can't share anything through it. List goes on.
 
After using Android for a few months, there are 3 things I miss about iPhone. The first two I consider fairly major limitations of Android. The 3rd is relatively minor.

1) Transferring basic data & configurations from an old phone to new phone works superbly with iPhone/iCloud. On Android, whilst stuff like contacts & calender pose no problems, transferring other stuff like text messages and home screen shortcuts & folders is clunky and depends on 3rd party apps.

2) I much prefer the centralized management of notification settings in iOS over the way it is done within app settings (which varies from app to app) in Android.

3) I miss the ability that iOS provides to define selected words when I'm reading.

However, at the moment, these reasons aren't enough for me to switch back.

I agree on the first point. It's ridiculous that this cannot be done on Android, unless you root your device! Having said that though, if you are careful to use apps that save their data to the cloud, it's not that big of an issue..There is also Helium Backup that can save app data, but it's not perfect either..Have a look though..

On three I also agree.
As far as notifications concern, I also prefer a centralized approach, but it's not that important to me. If you go to settings and then apps, you have many options there..Have a look..
 
I agree on the first point. It's ridiculous that this cannot be done on Android, unless you root your device! Having said that though, if you are careful to use apps that save their data to the cloud, it's not that big of an issue..There is also Helium Backup that can save app data, but it's not perfect either..Have a look though..

On three I also agree.
As far as notifications concern, I also prefer a centralized approach, but it's not that important to me. If you go to settings and then apps, you have many options there..Have a look..

contrary to popular belief, rooting is NOT necessary on android for 90% of the customizations. its only a matter of using the right app from the play store. two minute deal. rooting does give some hardcore functionality like firewall, custom rom, etc.

there are tons of apps on play store that handle transferring/backing up/restoreing/ of sms, contacts, data. free and paid.

once you realize the full potential of android, ios will feel like a toy os. the thing with android is that you are in control, so you must put the effort to tune it to your needs. so you can really make it your own.

i'd kindly ask you to check out the apps on my signature. :)
 
contrary to popular belief, rooting is NOT necessary on android for 90% of the customizations. its only a matter of using the right app from the play store. two minute deal. rooting does give some hardcore functionality like firewall, custom rom, etc.

there are tons of apps on play store that handle transferring/backing up/restoreing/ of sms, contacts, data. free and paid.

But having to spend time searching for a 3rd party app to do this backup/restore task (which I feel should really be handled by the OS or Google) is a massive nuisance (compared to iOS/iCloud).

Furthermore, I haven't found a 3rd party app to do the key thing I want: Save a list of all apps & home screen shortcuts, and on the new phone automate installation of these apps from play store and setting up home screen shortcuts.
 
contrary to popular belief, rooting is NOT necessary on android for 90% of the customizations. its only a matter of using the right app from the play store. two minute deal. rooting does give some hardcore functionality like firewall, custom rom, etc.

there are tons of apps on play store that handle transferring/backing up/restoreing/ of sms, contacts, data. free and paid.

once you realize the full potential of android, ios will feel like a toy os. the thing with android is that you are in control, so you must put the effort to tune it to your needs. so you can really make it your own.

i'd kindly ask you to check out the apps on my signature. :)

Rooting is required to fully backup an Android device. Simply ridiculous.

Rooting is required to copy stuff to the SD card to any directory..

AirDroid I have and like very much..
 
Like i said maybe the S5 would of been better for you at least you can get photos onto iPhoto by syncing and android transfer works.
I have had note 3, Moto G, and now M8 and S5 in last 6 weeks and have to admit the S5 fits into my Apple set up best. M8 is worst of those.

Why doesn't Android Transfer work with the M8?
 
Switching back to iPhone.

After using android for the last 2 years, I'm glad to be back to iOS!

iOS
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4s
iPhone 5 - started using last week
iPhone 5s - Sleep/Wake button issue with the iPhone 5, Apple gave me a $350 credit to upgrade to iPhone 5s

Android
Motorola Atrix
HTC Thunderbolt
Samsung Galaxy S2
Samsung Galaxy S3
Samsung Galaxy S4
Moto X

Windows
Samsung Focus
 
FWIW those were some rough Android devices. Touchwiz is an abomination.

But anyway, I don't mean to have gone on an anti-iOS tirade. I mean I love my iPad, it's better than any Android tablet I've tried.

Honestly, here's my take on it: both are excellent systems, and to a very real extent the one you like better is just the one that you're most comfortable with. Transitioning from one to the other is gonna be weird. It's very different, things don't work the way you're used to, it's a new app ecosystem, etc etc etc.
 
Who the hell has time to read through 5 entire pages of a thread, or even want to?

My point is just that blind replying to the OP when several pages of discussion has followed often produces posts that are totally out of sync with what is currently being said - often pouring gasoline on flames that had already died down and pulling the thread down into unreadability hell.

You wrote:

The M8 absolutely murders the iPhone, so I'm stunned you're giving it up to go back to the basic as hell, teeny tiny iPhone. To each their own I guess.

But only a few posts above yours on the same page, the OP had changed his initial stance and written this:

I have made up my mind. I will keep the M8 and try to make things work as I want them to.

At least read the last page, if you're at all interested in the actual discussion at hand...
 
I like these threads a lot. I also struggle with the deficiencies of both platforms and these threads help me sort out which and when I'll spend my hard earned money on a new phone to try to address my myriad issues. I kind of feel like I'm where I was before I got a MacBook Air - I had zillions of issues, and now with MBA I have zero issues. I was hoping that switching to iPhone would be the same way to eliminate my Android problems, but alas, Apple's weirdly arbitrary software restrictions frustrate me constantly.
 
So, why do I go back to the iPhone?

Many reasons...Android is certainly a good OS, but there are things that bother me and couldn't get used to them:
* App quality is most of the times worse than on iOS. There are some good apps out there though. An example of a whole app category where iOS is unbeatable: Calendar and Tasks apps..It's like night and day..
* The Google Play store cannot be compared to the AppStore...
*If you are not prepared to root your device, then Android OS gets also boring, as iOS...Maybe because both OS work pretty well...
*Notifications: The lock screen notifications of iOS are much better than any plugin or widget can accomplish on Android. Android does't natively support lock screen notifications, but there are widgets and apps that imitate iOS behavior...but they do not work as well as the original...
*Video playback support is not as good as on the iOS...I know there are many video players, but iOS offers much better compatibility with mp4 files. MKV files on the other hand play very well on Android too (you need an app on iOS for that..)
*The fact that Dropbox runs in the background on Android and saves taken pictures automatically is great, but on iOS we have Photostream that does the exact same thing, and is much better integrated in the OS..
*The lack of Mac integration can be frustrating at times...
* The OS is not as polished as iOS and looks worse too! I don't believe I am saying that, but iOS 7 is beautiful...
*No FaceTime and no iMessages...Hangouts is a joke of an application. I am sorry Google fans, but you haven't probably seen Messages and FaceTime working...It's like night and day

About the HTC One M8: It is a great device, has great screen (but with much worse color accuracy compared to the iPhone), has amazing speakers which I will really miss, but it is too big to carry around..After using it for almost three weeks, I can safely say that I don't want such a big phone...I don't want to always worry how I am going to carry it with me, or how I am going to hold it...I believe the current iPhone is a little bit small, so a size up to 4,7" (as a maximum), is ok. If the rumors are true, the next iPhone will offer a 4,7" size...

So, I ordered an iPhone 5S and it comes on Monday morning...Goodbye Android, I will not miss you.
Hardly unexpected ....

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I made the switch from iOS to Android last July and really enjoy it. There are some things I miss from iOS, but for the most part I'm happy with the move.

Kudos to you for trying it out for 3 weeks. So many get on here and say they tried it for 20 minutes at the store and found that it sucks.

It took 30 minutes for me to decide I don't like the s5 and the "new" TouchWiz .....

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I especially like the Safari tab reloading on the iPad Air. Apple must have put a lot of effort to make the tabs reload when you switch with only 2 or 3 tabs open. :p

Gone since iOS 7.1 installation ....
 
Hardly unexpected ....

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It took 30 minutes for me to decide I don't like the s5 and the "new" TouchWiz .....

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Gone since iOS 7.1 installation ....

You didn't read where they decided to keep the M8, i still get crashes on iPad air. I didn't like the S5 in store either, not really a fair review, but after a week not bad.
 
No it's not, still happens to me quite a lot. I don't dare leave the tab I'm typing this response on or risk having it refresh and disappear.

I've already demonstrated with several YouTube videos I personally made you can keep several contents rich tabs AND this forum open at the same time and nothing is reloaded.
 
You didn't read where they decided to keep the M8, i still get crashes on iPad air. I didn't like the S5 in store either, not really a fair review, but after a week not bad.

I read, but it doesn't matter.
He is having and he's going to have buyer 's remorse.
This happen to every user accustomed to apple ecosystem. It doesn't matter how good the droid is, it still is a droid. The os is improved (I'm an android user after all, with four device in my home and one I'm using every single day, the nexus 7), it is good ..... but still less polished and refined than iOS.
I like the M8 very much, really, but I couldn't make it my primary smartphone.
 
I read, but it doesn't matter.
He is having and he's going to have buyer 's remorse.
This happen to every user accustomed to apple ecosystem. It doesn't matter how good the droid is, it still is a droid. The os is improved (I'm an android user after all, with four device in my home and one I'm using every single day, the nexus 7), it is good ..... but still less polished and refined than iOS.
I like the M8 very much, really, but I couldn't make it my primary smartphone.

You are right. Today the iPhone is coming and when I am back home I will try it again and see how I feel about it. Even in my comparisons, both devices are very close. You are right though that iOS is more polished..
 
I've already demonstrated with several YouTube videos I personally made you can keep several contents rich tabs AND this forum open at the same time and nothing is reloaded.

Good for you--doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist, only that you are able to create a specific example of where it doesn't happen to you. YouTube is full of examples demonstrating this problem, including this one that I just created knowing that you'll continue to deny the problem exists without evidence to the contrary (and you'll still probably try to continue to deny it exists, claiming I fabricated the entire thing).

 
How old are you?

What is the problem with the thread? I am sure there must be a lot of people that never tried Android before and would be interested to know why some guy decided that iOS is better for him..
I tried to like Android, invested a lot of money in apps, but the love was not there..When I touch an iPhone I feel things...

Yes, I am. Maybe that is the reason I miss my iPhone so much..

I love Apple too much :)
I love OS X, adored Steve Jobs, BUT I have my computing principles and expectations from the technology I use. If I were satisfied with iOS I wouldn't get the M8 on the first place. I did go Android, I didn't want to be just another fanboy that hates stuff without even knowing what it's about..
I saw many great things on Android, but there are of course some ugly stuff.

It all depends!
To be honest, using the M8 is a pure joy, and I have found for every usage scenario that I need an app that looks great, apart from the calendar. Someone wrote before that the standard cal on iOS is not good. I agree, but I can have week calendar or Fantastical on iOS. The current options on Android are not exactly great.
The iPhone is on its way, but I still don't know..Somehow I had a change of mind in the last couple of hours...:(

I have MX Player and it works great for everything but m4v files, which I have on iTunes.

I use hosted Exchange for mail, calendar and tasks, so I need Apps that work great with it. Today I discovered DigiCal and I like it. It's the first calendar app that I like.

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You are holding it wrong :)

I feel things :)

No offense dude, but that's a little creepy.

Just noticed the following:
The small details..Accidental palm resting on an iPhone causes no taps on the screen, but on the HTC One M8 yes. Apple creates products with love.

These small details make the iPhone so unique...You can say whatever you want about the limitations of iOS, but Apple is the king of attention to detail.

This must have slipped by QC...

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What's a "hon?"
 
No offense dude, but that's a little creepy.



This must have slipped by QC...

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What's a "hon?"
There are many studies showing that iPhone owners experience various feelings when using their devices, much more than other devices. There is something that Apple has managed to achieve somehow. I believe it is the great build quality. It's like using a jewelry. It's a positive, great feeling and it happens mostly subconsciously.
The M8 wakes similar feelings. I wish it had ios though.
 
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