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Sad but true. I just re-watched the keynote, then read through all the specs one more time. What hit me harder than ever was just how little change there is.

Apple's hype really is remarkable. One views the presentation the first time and comes away feeling like maybe it's worth upgrading. But the second or third time through the marketing materials and specs reveals that this may be the least improved of any iPhone to date.
Plenty of hardware changes to make it worthwhile just on its own. The software items, might be gimmicky for some, might not be for others, but still, only part of the upgrade/update.
 
They could also remove heavy animations from older devices, which don't have the hardware, but nooooo....
Are you talking about OS animations? Those can be disabled/reduced by the user.
 
Why would Apple add it to a beta and then take it out vs not having it there in the first place? Did someone in Cupertino forget to take it out?
Probably due to it not working as expected all the time. At least one person in this thread has said it would activate while they were typing. Apple tends to remove features from betas that they find don't work well or at least to their standards. Then everyone complains that it's gone. Happens just about every year.
 
This is awesome. I struggle often with selecting the text that I want with my fingers... especially when dragging a selection to the edge of the screen.

Been there.. Done that.

Sorry, but this doesn't seem so handy... Why would I want to hold and wait to see the contents of a email? I can just as easily tap it, it opens right away and I can go back if needed. They make it sound like opening a email takes an hour combined...

Same for the camera, I can just tap it and often, your front camera will be the one that starts up because that's the one you've used the last. No need to tap, hold and wait...

This doesn't seem like a feature you'd really want nor does it improve the user experience.

I have to totally disagree with this. It's like if someone said Touch ID is useless because "how hard is it to type in a code?" They're convenience features. I guarantee I'll use it frequently while looking at work email.
 
Probably due to it not working as expected all the time. At least one person in this thread has said it would activate while they were typing. Apple tends to remove features from betas that they find don't work well or at least to their standards. Then everyone complains that it's gone. Happens just about every year.

The alternative is they could have released it and then everyone would complain because it doesn't work. :rolleyes:
 
Sad but true. I just re-watched the keynote, then read through all the specs one more time. What hit me harder than ever was just how little change there is.

Apple's hype really is remarkable. One views the presentation the first time and comes away feeling like maybe it's worth upgrading. But the second or third time through the marketing materials and specs reveals that this may be the least improved of any iPhone to date.

Feel free to do a bullet point comparison, but I think it's on par with any of their other yearly updates. The question is which features you find valuable. I could list big A9 CPU and GPU improvements, faster LTE and Wifi, 3D Touch, camera resolution and performance improvements, durability improvements, and touch ID improvements, and someone (like say, you) would say those are all completely useless features and this proves Apple hardly changed anything at all :)
 
Sad but true. I just re-watched the keynote, then read through all the specs one more time. What hit me harder than ever was just how little change there is.

Apple's hype really is remarkable. One views the presentation the first time and comes away feeling like maybe it's worth upgrading. But the second or third time through the marketing materials and specs reveals that this may be the least improved of any iPhone to date.
really? I went to the iphone 5s to 6 upgrade notes, and find that the 6 to 6s is a bigger upgrade IMO.
 
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This was working on iPhones in the beta but they turned it off, I guess for this model of phone to have it exclusively. It worked great and should be returned to the older iPhones.

Guys!

Please don't overlook this!

Apple removed this from all iPhones in beta 3 in order to make it 6s exclusive.

It was working just fine but they took it away.

This is a move I cannot accept.

It was working using 2 fingers like on the iPads. On the 6s it's using 3D Touch to enable the cursor.

I think I saw someone mention that the 2 finger method was working in the GM though?

I never had good luck with it. I'd accidentally move my text cursor when I was just typing normally. I'd prefer this route where you have to go out of your way to activate it.

The trackpad feature was on early iPhone iOS 9 betas, eventually got removed.
It is not present on the iOS 9 GM for iPhones.

I'm kinda glad it isn't present, but do think it should've been an option.
When it was in the beta, I'd often end up deleting words whilst typing, because I'm fast at typing with two thumbs; sometimes it would think i was doing a 2-finger tap and select a word, which would then be deleted cos I was still typing..

Sorry, but this doesn't seem so handy... Why would I want to hold and wait to see the contents of a email? I can just as easily tap it, it opens right away and I can go back if needed. They make it sound like opening a email takes an hour combined...

Same for the camera, I can just tap it and often, your front camera will be the one that starts up because that's the one you've used the last. No need to tap, hold and wait...

This doesn't seem like a feature you'd really want nor does it improve the user experience.

I thought that at first, about emails. The demo they shown at first, seemed to take ages before the email appeared. I could've tapped, read, and gone back in the time it took to appear.
However, that was only for demo purposes. When they shown it in a video of actual use, it was pretty damn quick. Certainly made me look forward to it.
It was near-instant, as opposed to the slight delay when the email slides onto the screen.
As someone else said, if you're looking at so many emails in a day, that split second saving makes all the difference.

It'll be one of those features like when Touch ID first came out. People questioned why it was needed, "it's just as quick to type a passcode".
It came out and was so much faster and more convenient.
The 3D Touch shortcuts will just become second nature, and we'll wonder how we ever got by without them.
 
I still question how useful this really will be.
Agreed, it seems like a cool feature, but without anything to indicate where you can use it and where you can't I see it being something that I wouldn't use too much.

That opinion might change after using a device with it for awhile though.
 
With this new peek/pop/shortcut feature, how does one rearrange the icons on the home screen?

Press and hold even longer? Press very hard?

Tap hard and you get options, tap and hold gently and it will activate the option to move the icons.

The watch is the same, if I tap on the icons gently they will wobble and I can move them, if I tap had nothing happens and the screen gives a little bounce animation. Once you use it it's extremely easy to get used to.
 
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Very deceiving article. This function did not have to require 3D Touch technology. This is purely a software decision.
 
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Just let us hook up a bluetooth mouse already! For my usage a bluetooth mouth would be more useful than a usb port.
 
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Are you talking about OS animations? Those can be disabled/reduced by the user.
Yeah maybe that example wasn't thought out.

What I was trying to say was that Apple regularly axes features or cripples old devices to push users into upgrading "prematurely". People shouldn't have to disable features deliberately to make their phones run reliably.

Buying into "but it needs force touch to do so!" is bull. For example, how often do people regularly move icons around on the home screen to warrant the touch and hold taking over the entire screen, and not giving per-app menus similar to what force touch does.
 
Been there.. Done that.



I have to totally disagree with this. It's like if someone said Touch ID is useless because "how hard is it to type in a code?" They're convenience features. I guarantee I'll use it frequently while looking at work email.
I have a feeling pop and peek will be one of those features you have to experience and use in your workflow to really understand their impact. At first they seem fairly useless, then upon further thought they seem brilliant.

Yeah maybe that example wasn't thought out.

What I was trying to say was that Apple regularly axes features or cripples old devices to push users into upgrading "prematurely". People shouldn't have to disable features deliberately to make their phones run reliably.

Buying into "but it needs force touch to do so!" is bull. For example, how often do people regularly move icons around on the home screen to warrant the touch and hold taking over the entire screen, and not giving per-app menus similar to what force touch does.

"Why do I need a right mouse button? You can just use the menu and settings!"

It's all about another quicker way to interact with the device.
 
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I find it quite amusing that people say Apple isn't innovating but then when we get something like 3D Touch or the Pencil it's just a gimmick to try and get people to upgrade. :rolleyes:

They need something to whine and be snarky about. It's getting to the point where if the next iPhone could emit holograms and teleport to another dimension someone would say Samsung did it first and it's just a gimmick to sell more phones. Here's MY truth: I don't give a rip if someone else did a feature first. It doesn't affect my excitement about it showing up on an iPhone because iPhones are the only phone I care about. Plus, when it shows up on an iPhone, 99% of the time it is better implemented than whoever did it first, and that's more important. Being first is nice. Being best is way better.
 
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Why would Apple add it to a beta and then take it out vs not having it there in the first place? Did someone in Cupertino forget to take it out?
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It's a conspiracy, man!
 
I've been running the beta all summer on my iPad Air 2 and I still feel like an idiot when it comes to this text selection capability. Is it just single tap with two fingers to move the cursor, and double tap two fingers to select? I feel like I should be able to lift one finger up and then set it back down and slide across to make a selection. Doesn't seem very intuitive. I wonder if the 3D Touch version will stay locked down until you press hard on it again. I also wonder how easily it will activate. I assume it would be a pop and not just a peek level of pressure.

The thing that annoys me the most about the keyboard is no number key row. I use numbers far more than I use that autocorrect bar thing at the top. I'd like an option to swap out that bar for a number key row. Or a 3D Touch on it to turn it into a keyboard row. Boom!

You know what else they need to do? They need pre-filled responses like the Apple Watch when you swipe down on a text message banner. There's a lot of empty space there that they could fill with quick responses.
 
why the hell did they limit this to those standard apps? reason to jailbreak here we come.

They didn't. Third party developers have to implement the features to their app such as Facebook and Instagram. They had early access to the API and added some cool 3D touch features that were demo'd
 
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