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3D Touch Brings Trackpad Shortcut to iPhone 6s Keyboard

Rogifan said:
I find it quite amusing that people say Apple isn't innovating but then when we get something like 3D Touch or the Pencil it's just a gimmick to try and get people to upgrade. :rolleyes:
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The problem is you're thinking logically when it comes to Apple. The correct way to approach this is:

Everyone says Apple does not innovate, so if Apple releases something, it must not be innovation and must therefore be a gimmick which leads to everyone saying Apple does not innovate.

This kind of circular reasoning is the correct way to approach anything related to Apple.
 
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B.A.T said:
Seems like these shortcuts are going to help eliminate the Home button on next year's phone/ios10
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As much as that would be great for slimming the bezels that's not going to happen anytime soon.

1) TouchID is fantastic and built into the home button.
2) They just updated TouchID to 2.0 speeding it up.
 
so its a keyboard, but the app itself needs to have it implemented?
that doesn't make sense. it should be a third party keyboard app then.
 
QuarterSwede said:
As much as that would be great for slimming the bezels that's not going to happen anytime soon.

1) TouchID is fantastic and built into the home button.
2) They just updated TouchID to 2.0 speeding it up.
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I'm in the "home button is going away on iPhone 7" camp.

I think Apple are preparing us for the home button removal, or certainly massively reduced bezels and a different kind of home button.

Apple refer to it as the "Touch ID sensor" on the diagram on their 6s tech specs page now. They call it a "home/Touch ID sensor" on the 6.
Small thing, but potentially significant.

Multitasking can be activated using 3D Touch now. One less use for a home button.

I can't think of a non-home button solution for reachability right now, but I'm sure Apple will.

It's like how they gave us Touch ID on the 5s, to prepare us for Apple Pay on the 6.
They gave us swipe to go back, to prepare us for bigger screens.

Touch ID can be embedded in the screen, or in the bezel, or somewhere else.
 
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r-m said:
I'm in the "home button is going away on iPhone 7" camp.

I think Apple are preparing us for the home button removal, or certainly massively reduced bezels and a different kind of home button.

Apple refer to it as the "Touch ID sensor" on the diagram on their 6s tech specs page now. They call it a "home/Touch ID sensor" on the 6.
Small thing, but potentially significant.

Multitasking can be activated using 3D Touch now. One less use for a home button.

I can't think of a non-home button solution for reachability right now, but I'm sure Apple will.

It's like how they gave us Touch ID on the 5s, to prepare us for Apple Pay on the 6.
They gave us swipe to go back, to prepare us for bigger screens.

Touch ID can be embedded in the screen, or in the bezel, or somewhere else.
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While I understand that I see no reason for them to remove the home button that everyone knows how to use if there isn't another hardware solution for TouchID. If TouchID is staying as button why remove the home button function?

So far people have only speculated but haven't provided any patents to suggest it'll be moving to the home screen. I just don't see it happening till there is further proof.
 
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Jmausmuc said:
Guys!

Please don't overlook this!

Apple removed this from all iPhones in beta 3 in order to make it 6s exclusive.

It was working just fine but they took it away.

This is a move I cannot accept.
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Perhaps TO YOU it was "working just fine", but it was completely missing the Haptic Feedback so it was only HALF the solution. Apple obviously wanted people to experience it more than just visually but with touch, too. Personally, I can't blame them. It's a big part of the new S models.
 
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r-m said:
I'm in the "home button is going away on iPhone 7" camp.

I think Apple are preparing us for the home button removal, or certainly massively reduced bezels and a different kind of home button.

Apple refer to it as the "Touch ID sensor" on the diagram on their 6s tech specs page now. They call it a "home/Touch ID sensor" on the 6.
Small thing, but potentially significant.

Multitasking can be activated using 3D Touch now. One less use for a home button.

I can't think of a non-home button solution for reachability right now, but I'm sure Apple will.

It's like how they gave us Touch ID on the 5s, to prepare us for Apple Pay on the 6.
They gave us swipe to go back, to prepare us for bigger screens.

Touch ID can be embedded in the screen, or in the bezel, or somewhere else.
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How would you access home screen? Even Apple Watch need a home button.

The home button is iconic for iPhone. If you draw a smartphone just add a circle and everybody say iPhone.
 
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mejsric said:
How would you access home screen? Even Apple Watch need a home button.

The home button is iconic for iPhone. If you draw a smartphone just add a circle and everybody say iPhone.
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A deep press on the left hand side of the screen brings up multitasking.
Not a massive leap for them to add a deep press on the right hand side of the screen taking you home.

The rounded square on the home button was iconic to iPhone - when the 5S leaks happened, people thought it was fake because the iconic rounded square had gone from the home button.
When the iPhone 7 leaks happen, people will think it's fake because the iconic home button has gone.

We'll soon get used to the iPhone not having a home button.
 
QuarterSwede said:
While I understand that I see no reason for them to remove the home button that everyone knows how to use if there isn't another hardware solution for TouchID. If TouchID is staying as button why remove the home button function?

So far people have only speculated but haven't provided any patents to suggest it'll be moving to the home screen. I just don't see it happening till there is further proof.
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I don't think Touch ID would stay as a button.
I think they call it "Touch ID sensor" now, to stop us thinking of it as a home button.
That "Touch ID sensor" label can easily be pointing at a section of the screen on a future iPhone tech spec diagram.

This is what I'm referring to:
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...fingerprint-sensors-into-touchscreen-displays
Shows fingerprint sensors in touch screen displays. Sure, there's still a home button on those patent diagrams, but things change.

As for it being technically possible, I saw an article recently about some android device manufacturer beating Apple to the punch, embedding a fingerprint sensor in the screen (I'll find the article and edit my post).
 
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r-m said:
I don't think Touch ID would stay as a button.
I think they call it "Touch ID sensor" now, to stop us thinking of it as a home button.
That "Touch ID sensor" label can easily be pointing at a section of the screen on a future iPhone tech spec diagram.

This is what I'm referring to:
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...fingerprint-sensors-into-touchscreen-displays
Shows fingerprint sensors in touch screen displays. Sure, there's still a home button on those patent diagrams, but things change.

As for it being technically possible, I saw an article recently about some android device manufacturer beating Apple to the punch, embedding a fingerprint sensor in the screen (I'll find the article and edit my post).
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I know they exist but they suck comparatively. Maybe Apple has cracked it. If so, then I could see them moving away from the Home button. As iconic as it is, the Apple logo on the back is more so.
 
I was hoping Apple would bring the four-finger multitasking gestures to the 6+, as it's plenty big enough to fit all your fingers, but this makes that rather unlikely now.
 
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blackcrayon said:
Feel free to do a bullet point comparison, but I think it's on par with any of their other yearly updates. The question is which features you find valuable. I could list big A9 CPU and GPU improvements, faster LTE and Wifi, 3D Touch, camera resolution and performance improvements, durability improvements, and touch ID improvements, and someone (like say, you) would say those are all completely useless features and this proves Apple hardly changed anything at all :)
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Come on man.
I know this isn't expected from a S upgrade, but the OS and entire phone has changed very little since iOS 2. A couple features here and there yes, many useful ones as well, but always incremental inproofements.

At some point, they need to reinvent the phone. Maybe not a huge jump like the iPhone 1 was but something more than faster specs and nicer screens.

They could have done so much more with force touch. Now it is obviously implemented on top of the normal interaction and not really useful.
It might save a couple of seconds a day, but it's not something we have been waiting for.

They need to update the OS in a big way and really implement force touch on a deep level.

Maybe thought, they are just waiting for more iPhones to have the feature until they make a big move but one has to wonder why the new iPad does not have force touch.
 
Salvor Hardin said:
The problem here specifically is that they had this trackpad feature working on older iPhones in the beta.
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They had a feature that you could press hard on the keyboard and then move the cursor around with one finger working on older iPhones?

I guess the four-finger gestures are also limited to only the iPad to boost iPad sales.
 
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r-m said:
A deep press on the left hand side of the screen brings up multitasking.
Not a massive leap for them to add a deep press on the right hand side of the screen taking you home.
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Problem: I still run across people who don't understand how to bring up the Notification Center or command center. It's just not an immediately intuitive thing like pinch to zoom was. I foresee people having a similar issue with deep presses.
 
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Nicky G said:
They do not, if you read the reviews -- Apple's fingerprint scanner is considerably more accurate and faster than most of the others on the market.
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My Note 5 disagrees. Oh and the edge plus. Oh and the gs6. Looking at the videos of the new Sony phone it seems there is just as fast and as accurate as well.

Oh and my finger print sensor on my Note 5 compared to my old 6 plus is far more usefully.

It allows me to log Into websites using my finger print. I downloaded an app that allows me to lock certain apps that can only be accessed with my finger print. It's amazing.
 
JGowan said:
Perhaps TO YOU it was "working just fine", but it was completely missing the Haptic Feedback so it was only HALF the solution. Apple obviously wanted people to experience it more than just visually but with touch, too. Personally, I can't blame them. It's a big part of the new S models.
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Yea right and because of that it work on the iPads. It really was time for the iPhone to catch up since force touch seems to be available since the iPad mini 1...
 
QuarterSwede said:
I know they exist but they suck comparatively. Maybe Apple has cracked it. If so, then I could see them moving away from the Home button. As iconic as it is, the Apple logo on the back is more so.
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My googling skills are failing me, or I was wrong.
I can't find an example of someone embedding fingerprint sensor in the display.
I did see several articles about something making it possible earlier this year though; if it's not around yet, it's certainly on its way.
 
APlotdevice said:
Problem: I still run across people who don't understand how to bring up the Notification Center or command center. It's just not an immediately intuitive thing like pinch to zoom was. I foresee people having a similar issue with deep presses.
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Apple really needs a tutorial function on first setup. I even have to explain new features to my intelligent wife. It should be doing this, not me.
 
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