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"the tenth anniversary edition model could cost upwards of $1,000," :- Macrumors Said

If it costed that much i will most likely Pass, No doubt Apple is going to make a "FAT" :mad: Profit margin from this hyped iPhone 8

Why are people so hyped up about the $1,000 price?

The iPhone 7 Plus 256gb costs $969 right now. $1,000 is only $40 more.
 
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I hardly use 3D Touch; I just don't find it faster in any application.
Yeah... it might be a bit more important on an iPhone with no home button. Also it's faster when using it as a trackpad for text. And technically it's faster at clearing notifications.
 
Why are people so hyped up about the $1,000 price?

The iPhone 7 Plus 256gb costs $969 right now. $1,000 is only $40 more.
I think the hangup might be twofold. 1. $1000 presents a psychological barrier for some. 2. You're quoting the top of the line of the top of the line. I think the hesitancy stems from a fear of $1000 being the starting price, not the max price. It's all rumor at this point, but that my take.

Crass example: $1k used to get you into VIP. Now $1K is the cost of standing in line... just to get in.
 
Do people actually use 3D touch that much? I personally wish it would go away. Some things have 3D touch. Others don't but you have no idea.

I use it almost every day. It's wonderful for previewing webpages or accessing shortcuts in apps. I also use the equivalent on my MacBook all the time. It's not a life changing feature but once you get used to it, it's hard to work without it. Again, that's just my experience though.
 
The demand will still be high. I just need to accept that fact that when I go to order it the website will freeze and I'll get mine shipped maybe 4 months later.
 
Harry, if anyone replies to you with a definitive 'yes' or 'no' immediately give that comment a side eye. Immediately.:) OLED, just like LCD comes in a range of quality. Think good, better, best. Knowing Apple, those first two categories don't count. Samsung's top of the line SAMOLED panels for phones have been ranked by Displaymate as the top panels for phones for a number of years now (that includes LCD panels). Nothing has changed this year. Source. TLDR excerpt:
"The Best Smartphone Display
The Galaxy S8 is the first in a new generation of OLED Smartphones that have a Full Screen Display design. It has many major and important state-of-the-art display performance enhancements, features and functions, with mobile OLED display technology now advancing faster than ever. The Galaxy S8 is the most innovative and high performance Smartphone display that we have ever lab tested. So the Galaxy S8 becomes the Best Performing Smartphone Display, earning DisplayMate’s highest ever A+ grade." -Displaymate

Dollars to doughnuts, Apple is getting these panels. Couple that with Apple's under the hood voodoo, and I'd be willing to bet the OLED iPhone will take that Displaymate crown. That's not to say there aren't relevant trade-offs of OLED vs LCD. We're at a point now with screen tech, especially at the top end, where saying 'much better' becomes moot. It's pretty hard to find a flagship device; heck even a mid-tier device, with a bad looking display. iPhones have a great looking display now. They will have a great looking display when the new phones debut. Should be the least of your worries.

Apologies for the length.

While I would agree you should run for the hills if someone says "yes"....I stand by my "no" comment. You don't need to get into techno mumble jumbo for most people. I could have gone into the the various benefits OLEDs have over LCD...but I didn't.

The simple answer is "no", OLEDs will not offer a huge leap forward. Because, as you said, iPhone screen's are already stellar....any improvements will be evolutionary, not revolutionary.
 
Pass the added cost on to the consumer with a higher MAP and still come out way ahead due to selling a bazillion units.
 
I think the hangup might be twofold. 1. $1000 presents a psychological barrier for some. 2. You're quoting the top of the line of the top of the line. I think the hesitancy stems from a fear of $1000 being the starting price, not the max price.

The rumored iPhone 8 WILL BE the 'top of the line'.

I bet Apple will release other phones at the same time at the current price range, but the exclusive iPhone 8 we're all hearing about WILL BE the top of the line only. That's why it's okay to compare it to the current 'top of the line'.
 
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The rumored iPhone 8 WILL BE the 'top of the line'.

I bet Apple will release other phones at the same time at the current price range, but the exclusive iPhone 8 we're all hearing about WILL BE the top of the line only. That's why it's okay to compare it to the current 'top of the line'.
Fair point at face value. But if the rumored phone comes with escalating storage tiers, then there will be a top of the line, top of the line just like the 256GB 7Plus. Example: 64GB iPhone 8 @ $1K - 256GB iPhone 8 @ $1100. That $1100 iPhone 8 is the top of the line top of the line. That's what I meant by starting price of entry being $1K instead of most expensive being $1K. Everything is rumored right now so we don't know, but it seems unlike Apple to offer only one choice of storage.
 
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As someone who has only ever owned iPhones, is OLED really that much better than LCD?
It depends. The very first OLED screens were bright, but had disadvantages like losing their brightness over time, and burn in. Which meant it looked better in the shop than LCD but not a year later when you used it. This has supposedly improved. I would imagine that Apple wouldn't use it if those problems were not solved.

Then there is the question whether it is a pentile display or not. Normal LCD displays use pixels made of three components, red, green and blue. Pentile displays use pixels made of two components only, one is red and green, the next is blue and green and so on. It means that you actually have about 30% less resolution than you would think according to the number of pixels. Traditionally, OLED displays were pentile displays. I very much hope that Apple's isn't.
 
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Why are people so hyped up about the $1,000 price?

The iPhone 7 Plus 256gb costs $969 right now. $1,000 is only $40 more.

It's a mental thing. It's the reason a retailer sells something for $9.99, $99.99 or $999.99 instead of $10, $100 or $1000 outright. When most people see a price like $9.99 they don't think "it's $10 bucks" they thinks "it's less than $10 bucks" and apparently that makes most people more willing to buy it. It's common enough that it's kind of marketing 101 at this point.
 
I hardly use 3D Touch; I just don't find it faster in any application.
perhaps with iOS 11 there will be more/better integration. If they are sinking this much money into 3D touch, it would make sense its not just for the current capabilities. I hope.
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It depends. The very first OLED screens were bright, but had disadvantages like losing their brightness over time, and burn in. Which meant it looked better in the shop than LCD but not a year later when you used it. This has supposedly improved. I would imagine that Apple wouldn't use it if those problems were not solved.

Then there is the question whether it is a pentile display or not. Normal LCD displays use pixels made of three components, red, green and blue. Pentile displays use pixels made of two components only, one is red and green, the next is blue and green and so on. It means that you actually have about 30% less resolution than you would think according to the number of pixels. Traditionally, OLED displays were pentile displays. I very much hope that Apple's isn't.
Thank you for this information! Your explanation was thorough and not condescending.
 
While I would agree you should run for the hills if someone says "yes"....I stand by my "no" comment. You don't need to get into techno mumble jumbo for most people. I could have gone into the the various benefits OLEDs have over LCD...but I didn't.

The simple answer is "no", OLEDs will not offer a huge leap forward. Because, as you said, iPhone screen's are already stellar....any improvements will be evolutionary, not revolutionary.
No one said your comment was wrong. I said anyone offering a simple yes or no deserves a side eye. As you realized, I also said "no", OLED is not "much better" than LCD. So we agree there. I simply provided further context to the poster to let them know it's pretty much a non-issue at this point, and also to give them some info on tech they were unfamiliar with. Not to say my way is better or worse than yours. Just different. Just so you know, the comment below is the type of comment that I was referencing in particular. It lends no value to the conversation.
If you're an Android fan, you will say yes. To everyone else, no.
 
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Isn't an oversaturated display the result of poor display calibration, not the technology itself?
As has been pointed out a zillion times, yes. But you don't even have to calibrate it: there is a very simple setting to change the display on Samsung phones. Many people know about that setting but still prefer the vibrancy of the default setting.

Years later I find it amusing there are still those who reach for the "Samsung displays are oversaturated." It's amusing today when in the very same thread someone, a bit more knowledgeable, is predicting the new iPhone will have a "best" Samsung display, just like the one in Samsung's flagship smartphone. ;)



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"the tenth anniversary edition model could cost upwards of $1,000," :- Macrumors Said

If it costed that much i will most likely Pass, No doubt Apple is going to make a Fat Profit margin from this hyped iPhone

"No doubt Apple will make a fat Profit Margin?" What would you expect? For Apple to take a loss or a cut?

And No. It will cost more than a $1,000 IF it includes all the latest specifications that's been rumored. This will be the most expensive iPhone to date easily.
 
And the 8's price basically has to be up in the stratosphere to drive down demand - Apple can't get nearly enough displays from Samsung for the majority of iPhone customers to buy it this year (not sure what they'll do next year). They only contracted for a fraction of last years 7 display needs.
Apple apparently underestimated demand for the 7+ causing temporary shortages well into their production cycle and I suspect that if the 8 lives up to the hype created thus far, shortages for this new OLED model could be unprecedented.

Let's hope Tim has a good handle on his supply chain this year.
 
Why are people so hyped up about the $1,000 price?

The iPhone 7 Plus 256gb costs $969 right now. $1,000 is only $40 more.

Because you are getting a screen that will have .4" less usable area (5.1 vs 5.5) and half the memory compared to the phone you are using.

I don't understand the insistence on comparing directly with the 7+ when there likely will be an 8+ somewhere along the way that uses the same screen as the Galaxy S8+. The iPhone 6 was directly comparable in price to the iPhone 5S even though the screen was larger and higher resolution. Why should the iPhone 8 be any different? Compare the 8 with the 7 and the inevitable 8+ with the 7+.

On the other hand, another appropriate starting point would be to split the difference in price of the 128GB 7 and 7+ since the usable screen will be half-way between those two phones which would give a comparative price of $810.
 
More and more it looks like the signs are telling me that I'll probably go with the "lower end" iPhone model this year. Here's to hoping Apple updates the SE.
 
That mockup is still one of the ugliest mockups I've seen lately.
 
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