t0mat0, did you read this though from Justinerator
Justin has been around a while on the forums and I don't think he would be mischievous enough to mislead us. Right Justin?!
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3G iPhone preview at WWDC, Release July 11 - Who, When Where, What, Why & how much
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t0mat0, did you read this though from Justinerator
Justin has been around a while on the forums and I don't think he would be mischievous enough to mislead us. Right Justin?!
I don't believe www.infosyncworld.com much. AT&T memo, yes.
If there has been a change, let's hear that leaked proof. I didn't mean to discount Justinerator
(Sorry about this - I only briefly scanned the thread before posting just now).
So was the original memo true, then the dates changed in another memo? Could all AT&T staff confirm this? Why isn't this on the threads already? If it is true, Justinerator should be using the front page contact us button to get that scoop in to Arn!
It'd be much nicer to get on the day for U.S. / UK etc, rather than a week wait. what's happened to the slated OS 2.0 date? FCC?
Surely there would be something in writing? Or at least a few more AT&T store managers or employees able to confirm this?
If there has been a change, let's hear that leaked proof. I didn't mean to discount Justinerator
(Sorry about this - I only briefly scanned the thread before posting just now). So was the original memo true, then the dates changed in another memo? Could all AT&T staff confirm this? Why isn't this on the threads already? If it is true, Justinerator should be using the front page contact us button to get that scoop in to Arn!
It'd be much nicer to get on the day for U.S. / UK etc, rather than a week wait. what's happened to the slated OS 2.0 date? FCC?
Surely there would be something in writing? Or at least a few more AT&T store managers or employees able to confirm this?
Firstly want to say a big thank you to t0mat0, fantastic thread, been reading it everyday, some really interesting stuff, I've even visited every link you posted.
Anymore info on this date change with att holidays?
Keep up the good work, and again thank you t0mat0.
Anymore info on this date change with att holidays?
Keep up the good work, and again thank you t0mat0.
Originally, way back the whole argument about timings (at the time there was a possibility of an announcement prior to WWDC) - the whole FCC needs to give it some time, so there will be a gap between announcement and FCC launch, and actual release of product in shops. It seems the balace had swayed to announcement on 9th, launch in US in Apple stores at least on 9th. The AT&T memo had dates for AT&T stores after that - 10 days or so - they could be doing training day after the 9th, then have launch of it at AT&T stores after that.
So you watched all the Hugh & Laurie? And didn't comment?
Cheers for the support and saying hi - feel free to join in - i'm just speculating like the rest of ya!- We're awaiting confirmation of date changes to shift it sooner from Justinerator/other AT&T personnel.
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I have a question. When the WWDC happens does that mean AOL, Nike and all of the companies making iPhone Apps will be there showing their completed apps? And does this mean that we will be able to watch videos of these apps in action?
I don't know if you've seen this or not t0mat0, from appleinsider.com
Vancouver Apple store to open, mentions iPhone
Apple on Wednesday confirmed the opening of Apple Store Pacific Centre, its first Canadian store to open west of Ontario.
The store will open its doors at the Pacific Centre Mall on May 24th at 10AM with Apple's customary prize giveaways.
In an unusual move, however, both the company's announcement and the official store site make references to letting customers sample and learn about the iPhone, despite no firm date having been announced for the iPhone's release in Canada. None of the four other stores in Canada make this reference.
Rogers Wireless, the official iPhone provider for the country, has remained mum on release details so far and says only that it will launch the handset later this year, though rumors have it as part of a simultaneous worldwide iPhone launch in June.
Link: http://www.appleinsider.com/article...b_vancouver_store_and_iphone_logic_8_0_2.html
Ive submitted this to MR
(You'll also see the bit about hiring for a camera engineer)
Thoughts?
Vancouver Apple store to open, mentions iPhone
Apple on Wednesday confirmed the opening of Apple Store Pacific Centre, its first Canadian store to open west of Ontario.
The store will open its doors at the Pacific Centre Mall on May 24th at 10AM with Apple's customary prize giveaways.
In an unusual move, however, both the company's announcement and the official store site make references to letting customers sample and learn about the iPhone, despite no firm date having been announced for the iPhone's release in Canada. None of the four other stores in Canada make this reference.
Rogers Wireless, the official iPhone provider for the country, has remained mum on release details so far and says only that it will launch the handset later this year, though rumors have it as part of a simultaneous worldwide iPhone launch in June.
Link: http://www.appleinsider.com/article...b_vancouver_store_and_iphone_logic_8_0_2.html
Ive submitted this to MR
(You'll also see the bit about hiring for a camera engineer)
Thoughts?
Rogers has announced the iPhone already. The most logical explanation will be that the will show the current (unorderable) iPhone. I wouldn't think that Apple would be showing their cards this early at a store opening. They will generate enough traffic with the existing iPhone for you Canadians
I'm going to forget this if i don't write this down. So consider this a placeholder. I'll either add here, or at the end
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/may/21/technology.mobilephones= Yay!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/may/14/regulators.telecoms Booo!
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technol...misunderstood_microsoft_pleads_for_vista.html lol
Apps
Come WWDC, my personal fallible opinion, is that booom! if you're an iPhone owner with a working piece of plastic loaded with some mulah, you're going to be App King/Queen. Every company showing an app at the SDK presentation will have an app come App Store launch.
Anyone else rumoured will asap, if not at the launch. This isn't even touching those (large) companies who were given early invites/(possibly more in depth SDKs) who've been under the radar, getting apps together.
Nike has been rumoured, but just look at the grocery coupon rumours etc.
I'd imagine, that there will be a description to the apps on the App Store, and that video will be out on youtube via users (what with spanking video functions on the next iPhone and uber upload sk1llz). And any site making a web app/App will probably put a hot link to the download section for that app on the App Store.
Does 300,000 = (Number of stores of AT&T, Orange, O2 x 6) ? It'd give a clue as to if they are demo, and then also link to
Vancouver Apple store May 24th (the sample and learn about the iPhone doesn't say 3G I imagine)
Cool - http://www.macsurfer.com/ - about to do a patent trawl:
Camera Job
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...b_vancouver_store_and_iphone_logic_8_0_2.html
- Ug - I wish Apple would hire these kind of positions like 2 years ago... lets hope off the shelf does the trick. I don't want to thing about any double portions of dam today...
CMOS http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/05/21/flip.video.mino.spotted/
You might not want to read the rest below, it's gonna get ugly, till it's reformatted.
http://www.macsurfer.com/
"Beyond 3G, Part 1: What the iPhone Needs" By Chris Maxcer
http://www.macnewsworld.com/rsstory/63077.html
beyond eh? (Ain't too original (I've seen better collations but has some nice views).
Nike, Sports, Tech, clothing, training
PATENTS!! Over xxxxx !
i think i mentioned this article but didn't write anything about it.
- Apple patent application describes live broadcast TV, iChat for Apple TV/Front Row
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/02/07/new.apple.tv.patent/
"expanded Apple TV/Front Row functionality, including live iChat and broadcast TV programming as part of potential future Front Row features. The filing illustrates a process for associating widgets with content displayed by a multimedia center application, with one example revealing a yet unreleased version of Front Row and/or an Apple TV remote that includes a new set of Widget Keys,"
"Apple filed for another 46 patents alongside its new Apple TV/Front Row application. The highlighted patent describes the display of real-time information, live iChat session widgets, text messaging widgets, and more. The addition of such features would expand Apple TV's functionality to allow full communication right in the living room without the need to sit down at a computer," MacNN reports.
(Can anyone tell me when Time machine was announced - http://www.macnn.com/blogs/?p=491 has a patent for it, but i want to know which came first)
- Sharing Graphical User Interface Output In Chat Environment
- Sharing Application Output In Chat Environment.
Both these pertain to Video
- A patent that details separating the audio data of each participant in an iChat conference into its own track, allowing other software to handle iChat conference data in the same fashion as other audio applications that play multiple tracks. The invention specifically describes linking photos of audio conference participants to their corresponding voices, ensuring that iChat users on Macs, iPhones, and other devices would see a photo of the person speaking at any given time.
The patent broadly covers both audio and video aspects of conferences, and is worded to include all manner of conferencing equipment -- including PDA devices and cellular phones.
http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/20/apples.ichat.patent/
APple did show off AOL's IM client, but wouldn't we all want native? Because native = possibly able to be a run in the background app. Remember that the AOL app was knocked up in 2 weeks. Perhaps it was more to show potential, rather than say Apple was going to have this native. i'd imagine they'll let AOL have a app on the store, but Apple will come out with its own.
- karoake
http://www.macnn.com/blogs/?p=312
"Dynamic lyrics display for portable media devices"
"a need for improved techniques to enable users of portable media devices to view the lyrics associated with songs."
- As remote control
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ods_iphones_into_wireless_itunes_remotes.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/may/21/technology.mobilephones= Yay!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/may/14/regulators.telecoms Booo!
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technol...misunderstood_microsoft_pleads_for_vista.html lol
Apps
Come WWDC, my personal fallible opinion, is that booom! if you're an iPhone owner with a working piece of plastic loaded with some mulah, you're going to be App King/Queen. Every company showing an app at the SDK presentation will have an app come App Store launch.
Anyone else rumoured will asap, if not at the launch. This isn't even touching those (large) companies who were given early invites/(possibly more in depth SDKs) who've been under the radar, getting apps together.
Nike has been rumoured, but just look at the grocery coupon rumours etc.
I'd imagine, that there will be a description to the apps on the App Store, and that video will be out on youtube via users (what with spanking video functions on the next iPhone and uber upload sk1llz
). And any site making a web app/App will probably put a hot link to the download section for that app on the App Store. Does 300,000 = (Number of stores of AT&T, Orange, O2 x 6) ? It'd give a clue as to if they are demo, and then also link to
Vancouver Apple store May 24th (the sample and learn about the iPhone doesn't say 3G I imagine
)Cool - http://www.macsurfer.com/ - about to do a patent trawl:
Camera Job
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...b_vancouver_store_and_iphone_logic_8_0_2.html
- Ug - I wish Apple would hire these kind of positions like 2 years ago... lets hope off the shelf does the trick. I don't want to thing about any double portions of dam today...
CMOS http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/05/21/flip.video.mino.spotted/
You might not want to read the rest below, it's gonna get ugly, till it's reformatted.
http://www.macsurfer.com/
"Beyond 3G, Part 1: What the iPhone Needs" By Chris Maxcer
http://www.macnewsworld.com/rsstory/63077.html
beyond eh? (Ain't too original (I've seen better collations
but has some nice views).Nike, Sports, Tech, clothing, training
PATENTS!! Over xxxxx !
i think i mentioned this article but didn't write anything about it.
- Apple patent application describes live broadcast TV, iChat for Apple TV/Front Row
http://www.macnn.com/articles/08/02/07/new.apple.tv.patent/
"expanded Apple TV/Front Row functionality, including live iChat and broadcast TV programming as part of potential future Front Row features. The filing illustrates a process for associating widgets with content displayed by a multimedia center application, with one example revealing a yet unreleased version of Front Row and/or an Apple TV remote that includes a new set of Widget Keys,"
"Apple filed for another 46 patents alongside its new Apple TV/Front Row application. The highlighted patent describes the display of real-time information, live iChat session widgets, text messaging widgets, and more. The addition of such features would expand Apple TV's functionality to allow full communication right in the living room without the need to sit down at a computer," MacNN reports.
(Can anyone tell me when Time machine was announced - http://www.macnn.com/blogs/?p=491 has a patent for it, but i want to know which came first
)- Sharing Graphical User Interface Output In Chat Environment
- Sharing Application Output In Chat Environment.
Both these pertain to Video
- A patent that details separating the audio data of each participant in an iChat conference into its own track, allowing other software to handle iChat conference data in the same fashion as other audio applications that play multiple tracks. The invention specifically describes linking photos of audio conference participants to their corresponding voices, ensuring that iChat users on Macs, iPhones, and other devices would see a photo of the person speaking at any given time.
The patent broadly covers both audio and video aspects of conferences, and is worded to include all manner of conferencing equipment -- including PDA devices and cellular phones.
http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/07/20/apples.ichat.patent/
APple did show off AOL's IM client, but wouldn't we all want native? Because native = possibly able to be a run in the background app. Remember that the AOL app was knocked up in 2 weeks. Perhaps it was more to show potential, rather than say Apple was going to have this native. i'd imagine they'll let AOL have a app on the store, but Apple will come out with its own.
- karoake
http://www.macnn.com/blogs/?p=312
"Dynamic lyrics display for portable media devices"
"a need for improved techniques to enable users of portable media devices to view the lyrics associated with songs."
- As remote control
http://www.appleinsider.com/article...ods_iphones_into_wireless_itunes_remotes.html
Nope, it's the truth.
I don't believe www.infosyncworld.com much. AT&T memo, yes.
If there has been a change, let's hear that leaked proof. I didn't mean to discount Justinerator
So was the original memo true, then the dates changed in another memo? Could all AT&T staff confirm this? Why isn't this on the threads already? If it is true, Justinerator should be using the front page contact us button to get that scoop in to Arn!
It'd be much nicer to get on the day for U.S. / UK etc, rather than a week wait. what's happened to the slated OS 2.0 date? FCC?
Surely there would be something in writing? Or at least a few more AT&T store managers or employees able to confirm this?
No problem at all. I would have thought people would have already posted this or sent this to arn. I personally don't have the memo, as I said before, but my friend does and I can ask him if he can e-mail it to me. Don't be disappointed if he doesn't though, because he's a super paranoid person.
I'll update you guys in a bit.
I imagine it would look something like the original memo:
EDIT: I just talked to him and he said that he's afraid he would get fired if someone traced it back to him.
I told him that he shouldn't worry about it, and that he's being paranoid. He then told me to get it from someone else if I want it that bad. I am not extremely friendly with anyone else at that store except him, so I think we'd have a better chance getting it from someone on the forums. I'm sorry guys, but my friend can really be a tough person to work with... So you heard it from me, which I know is not solid proof, but I would like to think I'm a relatively trustworthy person.
So c'mon working AT&T guys and girls, let's get the proof everyone so rightly wants and deserves!!!
I believe you Justinerator.
If I were in that position of knowing something about this, I am not sure I would be spilling the beans or providing proof either. I would hate for that to jeopardize my job.
It's cool man. I appreciate the heads up. This will surely come out soon enough and you can tell us all "See!"
If I were in that position of knowing something about this, I am not sure I would be spilling the beans or providing proof either. I would hate for that to jeopardize my job.
It's cool man. I appreciate the heads up. This will surely come out soon enough and you can tell us all "See!"
I believe you Justinerator.
If I were in that position of knowing something about this, I am not sure I would be spilling the beans or providing proof either. I would hate for that to jeopardize my job.
It's cool man. I appreciate the heads up. This will surely come out soon enough and you can tell us all "See!"
Thanks wildcardd. I appreciate that. And yes, it will only be a matter of time before the news comes out to the public "officially". And when that time comes, I'll be able to tell you guys, "See!? I was right all along!"
Looking at the link below some 3rd party apps are already being promoted! The link below states availability for this particular app as June 2008. However, reading the last line the prices are not going to be cheap! Anyone know the difference between the ERS and the RSA versions?
http://hiddenwires.co.uk/resourcesnews2008/news20080521-01.html
http://www.speakercraft.com/
I think the iPhone image on the actual site however is the old iphone with a screen dump.
http://hiddenwires.co.uk/resourcesnews2008/news20080521-01.html
http://www.speakercraft.com/
I think the iPhone image on the actual site however is the old iphone with a screen dump.
Nice! Normally i'm not too much of a fan of peripheral links (I don't like possible links that are there just to get people to look at a site they might have affiliation with, or the site is just hooey to start with). However, I like them!
Just to copy some of the text in here, for those not able to link through -
Nice to see this being marketed as a product already. One iPhone to control everything.........
4G - LTE vs WiMax
http://www.rassoc.com/gregr/weblog/2008/05/21/8-months-with-the-iphone/
Not to cross streams but
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2008/05/21/heres-how-apple-wins-the-enterprise.aspx
Motley Fool on Enterprise and Apple:
Possibly, but then I think Tim Beyers needs to read up on Google
I'd imagine corporate customers only want to embrace working useful tech, whether it's new or not. Google apps are new, but companys are embracing it. Vista is relatively new and, erm, well, they're embracing XP aren't they?
And I think Apple showed that in it's presentations. They said: This is what Enterprise wants, we know, we're heading to get x,y,z done to get all of these things in, bish bash bosh, job's a good 'un. (Not exactly like that...)
They even took the peas of RIM for good measure, showing how Microsoft Exchange could be simply doled out via a server.
A very interesting point:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/TV_theater/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207801674
"The PC is an important part of the entertainment-based network, and most networks will contain one, but the PC is not a crucial part of the future home network"
RIM &http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commoditization
PS - Anyone interested in flash mobbing the London flagship store? Would be fun to get Macrumors et al running on the bigger screens, and might be a nice meeting place if they are going to be wheeled out come 7:30pm UK time
Attachments
Geotagging = GPS?
So the prediction of adding new features as new SDK builds come out is right, n'est pas? So whilst we can't jump on the GPS! bandwagon just yet (they could afterall use the Cell network/wifi hotspot information for location), it's a step closer.
Would improve the odds of integration of location into iLife's iPhoto. And more...
Interestingly, this is seen as part of a broader Location Services . Presumably you've got the 3G toggle,
Maps is aware, as is camera. Kinda makes you think if other apps will have this awareness to (you'd imagine they'll have to work out in preferences of each and every app, or have general app rules (+ exceptions?) regarding if the apps can use location information. Perhaps.
It would be useful to know the rate at which new builds are coming through the enterprise area. Is enterprise just getting this information/feature ? Were they forewarned it was coming, but not yet implemented in the SDK they were using?
Any which way, geolocation is cool in my book.
So the prediction of adding new features as new SDK builds come out is right, n'est pas? So whilst we can't jump on the GPS! bandwagon just yet (they could afterall use the Cell network/wifi hotspot information for location), it's a step closer.
Would improve the odds of integration of location into iLife's iPhoto. And more...
Interestingly, this is seen as part of a broader Location Services . Presumably you've got the 3G toggle,
Maps is aware, as is camera. Kinda makes you think if other apps will have this awareness to (you'd imagine they'll have to work out in preferences of each and every app, or have general app rules (+ exceptions?) regarding if the apps can use location information. Perhaps.
It would be useful to know the rate at which new builds are coming through the enterprise area. Is enterprise just getting this information/feature ? Were they forewarned it was coming, but not yet implemented in the SDK they were using?
Any which way, geolocation is cool in my book.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/05/22/iphone-line-forms-at-apples-flagship-for-absolutely-no-reason/
This is hilarious. People are lining up outside of NYC Apple store. Looks like no one knows why yet, unless it is a stunt.
This is hilarious. People are lining up outside of NYC Apple store. Looks like no one knows why yet, unless it is a stunt.
Dude...this is crazy.....on the day that the Iphone officially becomes available
can someone please post in big letters
go buy new iPhone now!!!!
i cant take the anxiety anymore....
i iwll drop what I am doing and leave work.....stot eating, sleepiing...what ever i am doing
haha
actually guys...if they are really lining up for the iPhone, I am gonna feel pretty dumb.....
now I want to know what they are doing there?
-job apps?
-problmes with there mac or iPhone...
-family discount day.....
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9734793-7.html
these guys must be smoking crack!!!! T-3.5 days..
how can this be.....
how could they sell before the key note speach?
thats 18 days away...
i dont get it.....
someone must have spilled the beans
these guys must be smoking crack!!!! T-3.5 days..
how can this be.....
how could they sell before the key note speach?
thats 18 days away...
i dont get it.....
someone must have spilled the beans
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9734793-7.html
these guys must be smoking crack!!!! T-3.5 days..
how can this be.....
how could they sell before the key note speach?
thats 18 days away...
i dont get it.....
someone must have spilled the beans
http://vicariousmusic.com/2007/06/25/iphone/
this one the 29th of may huh?
what the hell is going on here... I feel like I need to get in line some where now...
2nd that....I just called apple, and they played dumb (I guess they have to)
all they could tell me is that they did not know, and when it becomes available, they will email me, or I can check apple.com and it should appear as the first pop up, vs. where the new imac is now being seen.
I have to be honest, and I don't mean this in a rude way, but if this was another city, I don't know if I would be as inclined to believe it as much (still skeptical) What I am getting at, if it were to go live on the 29th of this month I think NYC (the major worldwide metropolitan city that it is) would be one of the first cities to have it. (basing this on the mass amounts of revenue and popularity that could spread and create a frenzy)
iPhone Frrenzy = Demand = $$$$$$
or I could be wrong...
2nd that....I just called apple, and they played dumb (I guess they have to)
all they could tell me is that they did not know, and when it becomes available, they will email me, or I can check apple.com and it should appear as the first pop up, vs. where the new imac is now being seen.
I have to be honest, and I don't mean this in a rude way, but if this was another city, I don't know if I would be as inclined to believe it as much (still skeptical) What I am getting at, if it were to go live on the 29th of this month I think NYC (the major worldwide metropolitan city that it is) would be one of the first cities to have it. (basing this on the mass amounts of revenue and popularity that could spread and create a frenzy)
iPhone Frrenzy = Demand = $$$$$$
or I could be wrong...
holy Smokes!!!!!
take some of that back...
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/27/technology/27apple.html
could all this be a hoax...this link has a publish date of june 27 07