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3G iPhone preview at WWDC, Release July 11 - Who, When Where, What, Why & how much
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C'est la vie. We always knew there was a niggling discrepancy between firmware OS 2.0, App Store and proposed launch. Now we know how it's going down.
Least there's more to come, with i'd imagine the phone features not locked down, and neither the firmware either.
Wow..just got to my hotel room to catch up on all the action.
I was watching the keynote from the airport until they finally said "Sir, you have to board now or the plane is leaving" Only got to the demos of the apps...grrr. The suspense was killing me.
Overall, I am happy. this is exactly what I was hoping for in the phone. Better battery life, faster speed, cheaper price. I am sold.
The mobile me looks fantastic. I have to use a PC for work (non-exchange server email) and a Mac at home, so this looks to be perfect for my push email system. If I read it right, I should be able to push my calendar from both Outlook and from iCal. Fan-frikin-tastic. Looks like I am going to happily spend another $99/yr from apple.
July 11th is a bit of a stretch to wait though
... oh well guess I have to deal with my crappy Nokia for a few more weeks.
I was watching the keynote from the airport until they finally said "Sir, you have to board now or the plane is leaving" Only got to the demos of the apps...grrr. The suspense was killing me.
Overall, I am happy. this is exactly what I was hoping for in the phone. Better battery life, faster speed, cheaper price. I am sold.
The mobile me looks fantastic. I have to use a PC for work (non-exchange server email) and a Mac at home, so this looks to be perfect for my push email system. If I read it right, I should be able to push my calendar from both Outlook and from iCal. Fan-frikin-tastic. Looks like I am going to happily spend another $99/yr from apple.
July 11th is a bit of a stretch to wait though
... oh well guess I have to deal with my crappy Nokia for a few more weeks.Wow..just got to my hotel room to catch up on all the action.
I was watching the keynote from the airport until they finally said "Sir, you have to board now or the plane is leaving" Only got to the demos of the apps...grrr. The suspense was killing me.
Overall, I am happy. this is exactly what I was hoping for in the phone. Better battery life, faster speed, cheaper price. I am sold.
The mobile me looks fantastic. I have to use a PC for work (non-exchange server email) and a Mac at home, so this looks to be perfect for my push email system. If I read it right, I should be able to push my calendar from both Outlook and from iCal. Fan-frikin-tastic. Looks like I am going to happily spend another $99/yr from apple.
July 11th is a bit of a stretch to wait though
I heard july 11th was for canada...any eta for the US
So much information to go through!
Wow!
Initially a bit meh about the date, but the wait is worth it. I'm happier it's this way round, and we wait for the iPhone, but when it's ready, mobileme and also app Store is ready too.
So currently we just have to accept it's a 2Mpixel camera ( no flash), and video is yet to be supported. The camera quality might be offset if the video quality and options to do stuff with the video (share on iDisk, mobileme, upload to youtube etc). But the large space on mobileme - and the easy net access to it for all (both Mac & PC - which is a big point) - means you don't have to hassle with accounts for social networking to share stuff as a publisher of information, whether it's a School promo, your own work, your business etc.
Skinning might come later. For now, mobileme.com addresses is the only route for this - i.e. you have to go Apple, use their kit to play with this. If you aren't fixed to much, that's doable. You could set all your mail to shunt into the 1 account, and make life more bearable. Whether you can have 2 accounts - 1 for work, 1 personal, and flick between, is to be seen.
Mossberg's thoughts
He blogs:
These + and - are for now, and this was a preview mind, so we have to wait for Walt's review:
Biggest Positives
Speed - Now 3G
Price - Subsidised to $199
3rd party programs
Biggest Minuses
Locked to one carrier
Missing some features - this is the big one really
No Cut & Paste
No way how to save files
Wimpy camera
No video
No IM
No MMS
**As noted on his blog, his full review will come out "in a few weeks" prior to its July 11 debut. **
As davidlw says - Mobileme is a great thing - it's Enterprise level stuff for the consumer. Could you get this on a Nokia, or Sony Ericsson come July? You could use it's browser, and access mobileme.com that way. Apple is playing to it's strengths - it's touch screen and it's browser - to access via the net via Edge, 3G, and Wifi. So at work, you can be elsewhere, and not have the fiddle of the Blackberry - your desk applications are in your pocket. It syncs with Outlook 2003 and 2007. You effectively have Outlook in your pocket. And a read only (?) version of Microsoft Office.
Currently you can only send via your me.com or .mac currently, but i'd that might change. The video of the guided tour here
It shows you can keep all your devices (PC(s?) iPod Touch, Mac and iPhone) up to "Exchange for the rest of us". Apple's servers do the work. They're using the words "the cloud" to normal consumers - which is a landmark. The fact that you can do push email push contacts, push calendar. Truly is a mobile PC. All this without having to dock your iPhone - it's wireless syncing.
Mobile me at me.com
- You have Mail, contacts, calendar, photos, iDisk and account settings.
- I think people will get used to the name, fast.
This is awesome. Hopefully there drag and drop is quicker than hotmail and yahoo's. No need to interact with mail.yahoo.com and hotmail.com directly. (which helps with contact syncing)
So anywhere with a secure PC, with internet access you can do this - indeed the demo is on Windows. By doing it on the web, you don't need an app to update - it's all on a web browser. And those updates on the web browser get pushed to the cloud, then your iPhone in your pocket. andyour work PC, and your Mac. People without access to the iPhone, even on a XP rig, or a work NT station get to access this syncing platform.
By working and snycing with Outlook 2003 and 2007, you don't have to actually use the programs if you don't want to, and go via a web app instead. The updates are synced there if you have to. So if your business allows you to access me.com, you basically can not have to use Outlook on your work PC, or your home PC (there are a number of iPhone users still stuck on a XP or vista PC, so this allows them to get the Apple experience for mail, contacts etc - smart!)
I for one want to get my photos off Facebook, and to bring my content to mobileme (as long as there is a way to move my content off easily too - again, social networks we're looking at you!). Can you tag photos, leave messages? Once that's on board - wow!
You can view the pictures on iPhone and Touch, and Mobileme photos is available on AppleTV too. A 1st step in bringing it to the AppleTV. How to share photos from the iPhone? Select photo, send to mobileme, the album (no New album option shown on the guide) and it's emailed directly to your gallery. Your friends can add pics there.
Basically sharing photos isn't a walled garden - you can presumably set who can view what, but you're not constrained by the people wanting to look at them having to have a mobileme account. (Facebook - we're looking at you!) The sharing of files is also again, a big step. You don't have to have itty bitty programs, which the receiver has to find. mobileme basically allows you to much more easily do things, such as share a file that's >10Mb. Which is a boon for those who want to mail such things.
Presumably you might be able to have a business and consumer email accounts too, so 1 phone for both. Anyone's who's tried to sync this stuff before (added picture to show the level of Keith Robinson that went on).
Basically getting the date wrong of the iPhone - the keynote was all about the iPhone. A leisurely pace, and once you've watched it you understand why the people watching weren't so peeved. This is a warning shot, a demo, a preview that Apple means means Enterprise level business for Enterprise and consumer alike. I'm sold. Are you? I wonder what the uptime is going to be off these servers?
iDisk
iDisk makes collaborating a whole lot easier. They bring the concept fro Apple of sharing I think they might have cracked selling to the consumer the concept of the cloud, and also having hard drive space on the internet. Sharing files is now easy/easier with Apple
Snow Leopard - the quiet OS 10.6
What's is it that Apple will be adding to OS 10.6 to actually make us update Leopard to Snow Leopard?
As announced, it's primarily focusing on performance enhancements rather than new features. Which is good. We just always want more. What is that more? From the allthingsd info:
With Snow Leopard, "Mac OS X changes more than its spots, it changes focus." That focus now being to take a break from adding new features and to build on Leopard. (Will Windows build on Vista or do rewrites ala WM7/8?)
Focus on Core software technologies that will:
Streamline Mac OS X
Enhance Mac OS X performance
Improve Mac OS X
Reduce the footprint of Mac OS X
Make Mac OS X more efficient for users
Doing this through
- Exchange 2007 level support for all iPhone and Mac users anywhere. Exchange 2007 baked in (Mail, Address Book, and iCal )
- Tweaking Mac OS faster stronger harder leaner meaner
- Help developers use multicores easily. Optimised multi-core usage (Grand Central)
- Help users who like RAM speeds over Hard Drive speeds crunch a few numbers with up to 5TB RAM as it's 64 bit
- Help users use GPUs for general purpose computing (Open CL - Open Compute Library)
- Help deliver optimised media over the internet, and locally
- Help deliver fast Web 2.0 Javascript enabled pages
So the consumer level OS from Mac, will have Enterprise level support of Window's exchange 2007 baked in. Is Apple aiming at making supercomputers?
Apps
What i'm holding a tenner for? A BT heart rate monitor. Pop the iPhone in a bag, then cycle or jog away. It collects the stats, and can give you voice feedback on the things that can be vital for running - your split and your heart rate/heart rate zone. It's just an extension of Nike's software that does it on the nano anyway. I'm hoping Nike's going to jump on this, or at least Garmin/motion based to accept it. With Google map support, it shouldn't be too hard to throw the KML behind the concept.
Nike Plus here.
Details here
Wow!
Initially a bit meh about the date, but the wait is worth it. I'm happier it's this way round, and we wait for the iPhone, but when it's ready, mobileme and also app Store is ready too.
So currently we just have to accept it's a 2Mpixel camera ( no flash), and video is yet to be supported. The camera quality might be offset if the video quality and options to do stuff with the video (share on iDisk, mobileme, upload to youtube etc). But the large space on mobileme - and the easy net access to it for all (both Mac & PC - which is a big point) - means you don't have to hassle with accounts for social networking to share stuff as a publisher of information, whether it's a School promo, your own work, your business etc.
Skinning might come later. For now, mobileme.com addresses is the only route for this - i.e. you have to go Apple, use their kit to play with this. If you aren't fixed to much, that's doable. You could set all your mail to shunt into the 1 account, and make life more bearable. Whether you can have 2 accounts - 1 for work, 1 personal, and flick between, is to be seen.
Mossberg's thoughts
He blogs:
These + and - are for now, and this was a preview mind, so we have to wait for Walt's review:
Biggest Positives
Speed - Now 3G
Price - Subsidised to $199
3rd party programs
Biggest Minuses
Locked to one carrier
Missing some features - this is the big one really
No Cut & Paste
No way how to save files
Wimpy camera
No video
No IM
No MMS
**As noted on his blog, his full review will come out "in a few weeks" prior to its July 11 debut. **
As davidlw says - Mobileme is a great thing - it's Enterprise level stuff for the consumer. Could you get this on a Nokia, or Sony Ericsson come July? You could use it's browser, and access mobileme.com that way. Apple is playing to it's strengths - it's touch screen and it's browser - to access via the net via Edge, 3G, and Wifi. So at work, you can be elsewhere, and not have the fiddle of the Blackberry - your desk applications are in your pocket. It syncs with Outlook 2003 and 2007. You effectively have Outlook in your pocket. And a read only (?) version of Microsoft Office.
Currently you can only send via your me.com or .mac currently, but i'd that might change. The video of the guided tour here
It shows you can keep all your devices (PC(s?) iPod Touch, Mac and iPhone) up to "Exchange for the rest of us". Apple's servers do the work. They're using the words "the cloud" to normal consumers - which is a landmark. The fact that you can do push email push contacts, push calendar. Truly is a mobile PC. All this without having to dock your iPhone - it's wireless syncing.
Mobile me at me.com
- You have Mail, contacts, calendar, photos, iDisk and account settings.
- I think people will get used to the name, fast.
This is awesome. Hopefully there drag and drop is quicker than hotmail and yahoo's. No need to interact with mail.yahoo.com and hotmail.com directly. (which helps with contact syncing)
So anywhere with a secure PC, with internet access you can do this - indeed the demo is on Windows. By doing it on the web, you don't need an app to update - it's all on a web browser. And those updates on the web browser get pushed to the cloud, then your iPhone in your pocket. andyour work PC, and your Mac. People without access to the iPhone, even on a XP rig, or a work NT station get to access this syncing platform.
By working and snycing with Outlook 2003 and 2007, you don't have to actually use the programs if you don't want to, and go via a web app instead. The updates are synced there if you have to. So if your business allows you to access me.com, you basically can not have to use Outlook on your work PC, or your home PC (there are a number of iPhone users still stuck on a XP or vista PC, so this allows them to get the Apple experience for mail, contacts etc - smart!)
I for one want to get my photos off Facebook, and to bring my content to mobileme (as long as there is a way to move my content off easily too - again, social networks we're looking at you!). Can you tag photos, leave messages? Once that's on board - wow!
You can view the pictures on iPhone and Touch, and Mobileme photos is available on AppleTV too. A 1st step in bringing it to the AppleTV. How to share photos from the iPhone? Select photo, send to mobileme, the album (no New album option shown on the guide) and it's emailed directly to your gallery. Your friends can add pics there.
Basically sharing photos isn't a walled garden - you can presumably set who can view what, but you're not constrained by the people wanting to look at them having to have a mobileme account. (Facebook - we're looking at you!) The sharing of files is also again, a big step. You don't have to have itty bitty programs, which the receiver has to find. mobileme basically allows you to much more easily do things, such as share a file that's >10Mb. Which is a boon for those who want to mail such things.
Presumably you might be able to have a business and consumer email accounts too, so 1 phone for both. Anyone's who's tried to sync this stuff before (added picture to show the level of Keith Robinson that went on).
Basically getting the date wrong of the iPhone - the keynote was all about the iPhone. A leisurely pace, and once you've watched it you understand why the people watching weren't so peeved. This is a warning shot, a demo, a preview that Apple means means Enterprise level business for Enterprise and consumer alike. I'm sold. Are you? I wonder what the uptime is going to be off these servers?
iDisk
iDisk makes collaborating a whole lot easier. They bring the concept fro Apple of sharing I think they might have cracked selling to the consumer the concept of the cloud, and also having hard drive space on the internet. Sharing files is now easy/easier with Apple
Snow Leopard - the quiet OS 10.6
What's is it that Apple will be adding to OS 10.6 to actually make us update Leopard to Snow Leopard?
As announced, it's primarily focusing on performance enhancements rather than new features. Which is good. We just always want more. What is that more? From the allthingsd info:
Bertrand Serlet, Apple’s Senior VP of software Engineering in the statement released by Apple.
With Snow Leopard, "Mac OS X changes more than its spots, it changes focus." That focus now being to take a break from adding new features and to build on Leopard. (Will Windows build on Vista or do rewrites ala WM7/8?)
Focus on Core software technologies that will:
Streamline Mac OS X
Enhance Mac OS X performance
Improve Mac OS X
Reduce the footprint of Mac OS X
Make Mac OS X more efficient for users
Doing this through
- Exchange 2007 level support for all iPhone and Mac users anywhere. Exchange 2007 baked in (Mail, Address Book, and iCal )
- Tweaking Mac OS faster stronger harder leaner meaner
- Help developers use multicores easily. Optimised multi-core usage (Grand Central)
- Help users who like RAM speeds over Hard Drive speeds crunch a few numbers with up to 5TB RAM as it's 64 bit
- Help users use GPUs for general purpose computing (Open CL - Open Compute Library)
- Help deliver optimised media over the internet, and locally
- Help deliver fast Web 2.0 Javascript enabled pages
So the consumer level OS from Mac, will have Enterprise level support of Window's exchange 2007 baked in. Is Apple aiming at making supercomputers?
Apps
What i'm holding a tenner for? A BT heart rate monitor. Pop the iPhone in a bag, then cycle or jog away. It collects the stats, and can give you voice feedback on the things that can be vital for running - your split and your heart rate/heart rate zone. It's just an extension of Nike's software that does it on the nano anyway. I'm hoping Nike's going to jump on this, or at least Garmin/motion based to accept it. With Google map support, it shouldn't be too hard to throw the KML behind the concept.
Nike Plus here.
Details here
Attachments
A question about this new MobileMe thingy....
I've watched the video, I've looked at the info Apple provides, and it strikes me that while this will be great to sync my contacts and calendar stuff on all my machines and on my iPhone, I'm not seeing where I'll be able to sync my bookmarks. ?? With dot Mac right now I'm able to sync my bookmarks on all machines and the iPhone and if they take that away I will not be a happy camper! Am I missing something or is my suspicion right on the money?
I've watched the video, I've looked at the info Apple provides, and it strikes me that while this will be great to sync my contacts and calendar stuff on all my machines and on my iPhone, I'm not seeing where I'll be able to sync my bookmarks. ?? With dot Mac right now I'm able to sync my bookmarks on all machines and the iPhone and if they take that away I will not be a happy camper! Am I missing something or is my suspicion right on the money?
From http://www.apple.com/support/dotmac/sync/
From http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1932
More specifically
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/mac.html
(there are tabs for
# MobileMe on your Mac
# MobileMe on your PC
# MobileMe on your
iPhone or iPod touch
which I missed myself the first time (they expand out)
Mac
Everything just clicks.
Did they add them? Anyhow there's more integration with iMove and iPhoto too -
It's more than was made out in the keynote. I can't wait to see the next Windows and Mac advert!
PC
More on Snow Leopard
Pundits/Analysts
This made me laugh (having read a few of Munster and Piping Hot rumor Jaffrey's tidbits). Nice to see humor still holds
More on Snow Leopard
Good interview with Jobs on Snow Leopard here from NY Times:
Snow Leopard is enhancing optimisation for cores, so developers don't have to worry about coding for multi-cores (i.e. parallel processing) (we don't yet know how many cores this could take - massively parallel processing ftw? We've seen Intel prototypes...) It'll help how to program for the parallel processing chips. And from the other info they're talking about using GPUs, so it may even be capable of optimising for multi-GPU. (Multi-cores aim to "gain speed by breaking up problems into multiple pieces and computing the parts simultaneously"). They're building the base, - foundational features for OS 10.7 / OSXI ("Oh sexy" phonetically?)
It's all about the code, and it's code named Grand Central.
His comment on OpenCL (Open Compute Library) about using GPUs is interesting - They're obviously looking at optimising using multi-core CPUS and (multi core?) GPUs and also optimising using both simultaneously.
1) Nvidia has *** rumored in the pipeline. Either Jobs is talking about what is actually released, or he's taking the piss out of Nvidia pipeline efforts.
2) If it's simple, he either means to use, or that OpenCL's code is simple. Or both.
The world supercomputer processing speed record has just recently been taken by a >12,000 IBM Cell processor beast (The PS3 chip).
I think the point that the article really misses out is an example from the code breaking world - we know that GPUs can bring rediculous speed enhancements when optimised for normal work CPUs do.
Apple is now, via the PA Semi acquisition, effectively manufacturing chips for the US Government. The GPUs on the high end graphics cards are in a way actually if you were being a stickler, something that Governments wouldn't want anyone to cross borders, due to their strength.
What would a shed load of GPUs do with RSA? password hacking? Code breaking? Cipher cracking? Rainbow tables ? Ray tracing game in real time? Could Apple optimise for Cells too?
Example 1:
(Which makes you think - what if you could daisy chain this optimised Grand Central Apple power?) Possible uses in servers, modeling (X ray crystallography through to climate, molecular movement, drug interactions, Large projection simulators
Somehow, i'd imagine that people who want to break codes aren't necessarily restrained by financial pressures so much as space and hardware limitations. (Have a look at what runs at ECHELON in the UK for example - i'm sure the spooks would love this kit). It also raises possibilities in terms of pushing a computation to a server, and letting it do the crunching, and getting the result.
Jobs is obviously in league with Mighty Mice, and wants to start Applescaping the Earth, to answer a question he heard Douglas Adams ask
GPS
An 11 page rant on "how disappointed" we all are. Wanting to boycott the 3G iPhone etc. No Wai t0mat0say. Malicious disinformation in a thread ain't fun to read, let alone simple mistakes (which can be shown to the other user easily enough). I should have posted here, but I haven't, and I riled the Mods by spamming them with dupe post requests, ((sorry again Mods, lack of sleep plus annoyance with sooo many threads (what was it, 50 odd threads locked/wastelanded?) so i'll behave (i'm sorry BV)) and just give you the link here, rather than post it here.
30 days to go
From http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1932
More specifically
http://www.apple.com/mobileme/features/mac.html
(there are tabs for
# MobileMe on your Mac
# MobileMe on your PC
# MobileMe on your
iPhone or iPod touch
which I missed myself the first time (they expand out)
Mac
Everything just clicks.
Did they add them? Anyhow there's more integration with iMove and iPhoto too -
It's more than was made out in the keynote. I can't wait to see the next Windows and Mac advert!
PC
More on Snow Leopard
Pundits/Analysts
This made me laugh (having read a few of Munster and Piping Hot rumor Jaffrey's tidbits). Nice to see humor still holds
More on Snow Leopard
Good interview with Jobs on Snow Leopard here from NY Times:
Snow Leopard is enhancing optimisation for cores, so developers don't have to worry about coding for multi-cores (i.e. parallel processing) (we don't yet know how many cores this could take - massively parallel processing ftw? We've seen Intel prototypes...) It'll help how to program for the parallel processing chips. And from the other info they're talking about using GPUs, so it may even be capable of optimising for multi-GPU. (Multi-cores aim to "gain speed by breaking up problems into multiple pieces and computing the parts simultaneously"). They're building the base, - foundational features for OS 10.7 / OSXI ("Oh sexy" phonetically?)
It's all about the code, and it's code named Grand Central.
His comment on OpenCL (Open Compute Library) about using GPUs is interesting - They're obviously looking at optimising using multi-core CPUS and (multi core?) GPUs and also optimising using both simultaneously.
1) Nvidia has *** rumored in the pipeline. Either Jobs is talking about what is actually released, or he's taking the piss out of Nvidia pipeline efforts.
2) If it's simple, he either means to use, or that OpenCL's code is simple. Or both.
The world supercomputer processing speed record has just recently been taken by a >12,000 IBM Cell processor beast (The PS3 chip).
I think the point that the article really misses out is an example from the code breaking world - we know that GPUs can bring rediculous speed enhancements when optimised for normal work CPUs do.
Apple is now, via the PA Semi acquisition, effectively manufacturing chips for the US Government. The GPUs on the high end graphics cards are in a way actually if you were being a stickler, something that Governments wouldn't want anyone to cross borders, due to their strength.
What would a shed load of GPUs do with RSA? password hacking? Code breaking? Cipher cracking? Rainbow tables ? Ray tracing game in real time?
Could Apple optimise for Cells too?Example 1:
(Which makes you think - what if you could daisy chain this optimised Grand Central Apple power?) Possible uses in servers, modeling (X ray crystallography through to climate, molecular movement, drug interactions, Large projection simulators
Somehow, i'd imagine that people who want to break codes aren't necessarily restrained by financial pressures so much as space and hardware limitations. (Have a look at what runs at ECHELON in the UK for example - i'm sure the spooks would love this kit). It also raises possibilities in terms of pushing a computation to a server, and letting it do the crunching, and getting the result.
Jobs is obviously in league with Mighty Mice, and wants to start Applescaping the Earth, to answer a question he heard Douglas Adams ask
GPS
An 11 page rant on "how disappointed" we all are. Wanting to boycott the 3G iPhone etc. No Wai t0mat0say. Malicious disinformation in a thread ain't fun to read, let alone simple mistakes (which can be shown to the other user easily enough). I should have posted here, but I haven't, and I riled the Mods by spamming them with dupe post requests, ((sorry again Mods, lack of sleep plus annoyance with sooo many threads (what was it, 50 odd threads locked/wastelanded?) so i'll behave (i'm sorry BV)) and just give you the link here, rather than post it here.
30 days to go
iphone MS exchange
hi all, i was looking at some specs of the new iphone on apple, and the micosoft exchange sync caught my eye. it appears to have the ability to sync calendars, notes, mail.....ect
is this only for a business ? like a blackberry or can it work with my mac
hi all, i was looking at some specs of the new iphone on apple, and the micosoft exchange sync caught my eye. it appears to have the ability to sync calendars, notes, mail.....ect
is this only for a business ? like a blackberry or can it work with my mac
it brings business like support to personal use. it will work with your mac.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/
huh? For Exchange syncing you need an Exchange server. To do it from your own Mac, you'd need to sign up for Mobile Me.
Thought - If Exchange is being baked into Snow Leopard - does that make a Snow Leopard Mac an Exchange server potentially?
No T, it only will make the Mail app a rival to Outlook 200X for the PC or Entorage for the Mac.
It is only supporting connections to Exchange Server. The Mail app previously was very lacking in that area. It didn't sync calendars, contacts, and folders to an Exchange Server if I recall correctly.
Our Graphic Artist uses a mac at work and I think I am the only one there that is technical enough to get him email using the Mail app
No, it makes Mail/iCal/Address Book Exchange clients. Instead of having to buy Office for Entourage (~$350), you can use the bundled apps. We use Exchange and Entourage and I'm already drawing up plans to move to the bundled apps as I like them a lot more.
Will what cost you? An Exchange server will cost you thousands of dollars, mobile me will cost $99/year.
They'd have to license Exchange for OS X Server, which I doubt they'd do. OS X Server has done email for a while, and Calendaring since 10.5. However, the 10.6 Sever page doesn't seem to mention any Exchange-like "over the air" features.
Ok. I was just wondering what they're going to be doing, with those GPU Teraflops. Solitaire will never be the same I guess. (And neither will 128-bit encryption...
)Hands on reviews
Hands on at last...
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/09/iphone-3g-hands-on/
http://blog.laptopmag.com/hands-on-with-the-iphone-3g
as noted, the v1 iPhone apparently went plastic to glass, and had the youtube app added prior to actual launch (if there were any other suprise firm/soft/hardware bumps just before launch please shout them out). So there is precedent. At least we know more software suprises are coming (at the least >1 native app from Apple methinks)
Locked down feature set, or more hardware to come? What do you think?
16GB White model - more feminine, more attractive, or a "steal this 16GB 3G iPhone message from 20 paces? Maybe a self-destruct button is needed. User enabled Lockdown.
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First of all, I also believe there will be another app announced shortly before the new iphone comes out. I also believe the gmaps will get an update to incorporate voice turn-by-turn nav*.
*Only available on the new iphone, obviously...
On a side note:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/sony-ericsson-cyber-shot-c905-breaks-cover-with-8-1-megapixels-i/
Wowza is right!
First of all, I also believe there will be another app announced shortly before the new iphone comes out. I also believe the gmaps will get an update to incorporate voice turn-by-turn nav*.
*Only available on the new iphone, obviously...
On a side note:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/10/sony-ericsson-cyber-shot-c905-breaks-cover-with-8-1-megapixels-i/
Wowza is right!
"But, but but but but... it won't be Apple!!"
CMOS is coming along nicely. I read there is a nasty Mp range 5-7ish, where the Mp don't necessarily help quality of shot. Would be hard to dig up. Show me the meat I say. 20 Mpixel ain't useful if its f stop or highest ISO is too low, or it has a beast of a time to autofocus/take a picture.
Having said that, Sony Ericsson do do camera part of their phones well. I guess that's their unique feature. K800i is a nice example currently. Luckily didn't Apple have a job out for RF and also in the CMOS/other cam tech integration?
In other news
Kinda coming from whats being said on this thread
iChat
4 things are possible, roughly:
1) Apple doesnt release an IM app, no IM apps on App Store 0% probability
2) Apple doesnt release an IM app, IM App(s) on App Store Possible but youd imagine Apple would push for the 3rd party to make it worthy, if they themselves were vetting it
3) Apple releases an IM app, no IM app(s) on App Store Slightly possible, but then why show AOL at the SDK roadmap event?
4) Apple releases a native IM app, other IM app(s) on App Store Likely.
Its a bit of a circular argument to say I think 2 or 4 are more likely so its likely that Apple will eventually bring its own IM app out (it has the patents)
iChat on iPhone is a when, not an if in my book.
Kevin Rose did say $199. Itd be nice to write him off as a schtick, but getting that right raises the possibility his other predictions this time round are closer. Its less of
Of a chance he plucked the figure out of the air, and more likely it was a source. He doesnt act like an analyst with insider info though!
Why didnt Apple get AOL on stage? Apps that were demoed at the SDK demo:
SDK roadmap of 6th March:
Epocrates seen at WWDC keynote
AOL AIM NOT seen at WWDC keynote
Sega Seen at WWDC keynote also
Others? Have a check at http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0806wdt546x/event/index.html
As http://gizmodo.com/5014732/3g-iphone-first-hands-on notes when they got there 15 minutes with the iPhone (Gizmodo, Endgadget, ? ) have had a play with it so far.
Infineons doing? Id imagine if Apple can be this good at power management of 3G (if this holds true) then why wouldnt Apple be savvy with getting a decent non-battery hog of a A-GPS?
I think the camera is going to get a software update there is so much possible they could do (quicker time to first focus, Mpixel bump, )
Obviously no haptics there then
A telling silence from Greg Joswiak (Greg is VP of hardware production, so if you ever wanted to look for micro-expressions to betray the truth he knew, hed be the guy). Is AD2P simply a software update? We havent heard anything about a dual 3G iPhone+headset dock, nor any announcement about a
(In terms of videochat, when we see 3G cases from Belkin mass produced ready to go, then we know if there is an extra (special
) sensor aka Front facing cam.Sidenote do UK chaps really kinda get annoyed to see the slimline USB charger from Apple, and appreciate, yet also curse the humongosity that is the UK 3 pin (we have an earth pin) plug design? (I think Stephen Fry will be impressed by the US cable, and Adams might if he was alive)
Its interesting how there are so many angles that can be picked up (some reporting a bait and switch (more like Apple headline naughtyness meets the carriers own set price).
Graphics
I think we may not have really seen the 3G iPhone taxed. I havent seen that part of the keynote yet in detail, but it sounded cool when I read it.
Basically, its moved into the learning arena, but this fits Housemen, SHOs, GPs, Consultants too (Im not going into the problems of patients not liking Docs consult an iPhone, just to note that PDA use is widespread, and the PAs and secretaries of the medical profession might be seeing this as taking a load off their mind! (Come to think of it a *lot* of Pas* hehe).
Seriously - Push is going to kick ass in the GTD/PA field. It has already done so, but it helps efficiency and the amount of time actually needed to do a certain task (e.g. tell Dr Jobs that he has the details of his scan for Mr Blogs, that his conference has been booked, and the details are attached in a word document, the clinic excel stats for the clinics are just in, can he quickly comment, and SHO Wozniak needs some help with his Keynote - can he just quickly watch it?)
London is 1/8th of the UK population. Greater London is 5million odd inhabitants. Which makes
http://9to5mac.com/o2-iphone VERY interesting if true.
How'd ya like them Apples?
(Answers a few previous posts too - see https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/5572571/
and especially this: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/5574548/ here
(Breaks down uk population and hsdpa over the UK. HSDPA can fill in the gaps, with 3G filler, if there's a seriously decent WiFi coverage. U.S. - You get Starbucks & Barnes & Nobles wifi on full wattage
Edit: CMOS?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/11/sony-announces-own-backside-illuminated-cmos-take-that-omnivi/
http://gizmodo.com/5015345/sonys-ba...reases-sensitivity-reduces-noise-dramatically
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-9963839-17.html "FINIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSH RIM" (old school joke).
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/07/30/review_apple_iphone_bluetooth_headset.html
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/apples-bluetooth-headset-iphone-dock-revealed-272184.php
http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/apple-releases-bluetooth-headset-new-headphones-for-iphone/ - we ain't seen any accessories yet, have we? Well, Apples' adding info:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html#accessories
Expect drip feed till July 11 and Beyond.
Till later, ciao.
Edit:
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080611/apps-store/
Is Apple intending on running the App Store for ~not for profit? I.e. to drive sales for iPhone, Macs, and get people on Safari, Leopard and iTunes.
Were basically giving all the money to the developers, and the 30% that pays for running the store, thatll be great.
BTW - The Mesh, BTOpenzone + The Cloud - rocks. That means that on nearly every high street, nearly every motorway station, there will be a place to get Wifi goodness.
Quote of the day:
Gartner analyst Ken Dulaney, July 2, 2007
The potential to shift developers over from iPhone, to Leopard is big. Seeing as they'll be pushing 3G anywhere, WiMax/3G laptops at a consumer/enterprise level soon, an app for the iPhone will be pretty portable to the Mac OS. Which is more than you can say with WM and Vista I'd imagine.
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The SDK is afterall an extension of XCode for Mac OS 10.5 if I can get my sentence right. Apple's very decent UI guidelines, and good adherence by developers to their UI guidelines means that the versions of iPhone and Mac apps will look pretty similar, but optimised to each's features (screen size, hardware etc). The more features iPhone gets, the more it can be a desktop on a 3.5 inch screen. (For now. iTablet on Apple ARM chips anyone?)
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20080306/iphone-map/
Come on Tom, where is the info on the iPhone gen 3?? joking, but once we get the details flushed out on this gen 2 I can't wait to see what PA Semi will bring us for the next generation of iPhone.
On that note, can the 3g iPhone even be considered a generational improvement over the 2.5g?
On that note, can the 3g iPhone even be considered a generational improvement over the 2.5g?
Been to an O2 store, spoke with a head honcho. The BTOpenzone link is confirmed, they're not planning pre-order (but Carphone Warehouse is - and it'll be announced soon). CW dones't know there pricing, but expects same as O2 - O2 knows it's pricing.
As of today/tomorrow pretty much, O2 shops will be pushing Simplicity, hard. (Expect lots of balloons, in arches
) Then from this, the switchers just buy the iPhone at store for example, activate, and then you get a temporary number for 1-2 days usually, then port your number over. A very simple process, and O2 with the publicity from the 3G iPhone launch filtering into national news and coffeeshops and water cooler conversations will then be able to snag a lot more people. Hope that's enough info for you
whats up with this rumor....
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/p_forum.php?fm=m&ff=1656&fi=1756926
There is no word as of yet. What's going to happen to people that want to buy an iphone out of contract or needing a upgrade sooner. Check your news in the next 3-4 weeks I am sure it will be announced. But the new and great thing is that the new 3G will be activated in Store not on itunes.
AT&T and Apple is trying to avoid people buying phone and unlocking and putting on services like TMobile etc. Everything is changing on how we sell the iphone. Data pkg will be 15.00 more if you add the 200 text messages you used to get with the 2g data plan. Less for the phone and more monthly costs. You want a faster phone with GPS, you pay for it says AT&T and APPLE.
I know there are dozen of other things that apple could of added to the new iphone but if they did , they wouldn't be able to come out with a 3 one now would they ? (mms, copy paste, video, landscape texting, more, so on and so on. Can't please eveyone right ? LOL
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/p_forum.php?fm=m&ff=1656&fi=1756926
There is no word as of yet. What's going to happen to people that want to buy an iphone out of contract or needing a upgrade sooner. Check your news in the next 3-4 weeks I am sure it will be announced. But the new and great thing is that the new 3G will be activated in Store not on itunes.
AT&T and Apple is trying to avoid people buying phone and unlocking and putting on services like TMobile etc. Everything is changing on how we sell the iphone. Data pkg will be 15.00 more if you add the 200 text messages you used to get with the 2g data plan. Less for the phone and more monthly costs. You want a faster phone with GPS, you pay for it says AT&T and APPLE.
I know there are dozen of other things that apple could of added to the new iphone but if they did , they wouldn't be able to come out with a 3 one now would they ? (mms, copy paste, video, landscape texting, more, so on and so on. Can't please eveyone right ? LOL