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Thick, thin - who cares! Does no one else find it interesting that iPhone mobile providers are being announced in numerous territories world wide that previously did not have legal iPhone markets.

June 9th will not only see the release of the next gen 3G iPhone, but I'm guessing it will be followed with a world wide roll out from all the mobile providers. This will be the global launch of the iPhone!

I just hope apple has manufactured enough units, 'cus demand is going to be epic.

I wonder how many will be available at launch [whenever that is]. We're talking about a buttload of iphones that are going to be released all over the world.

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple elitists start forming lines at Apple stores before June 9 just to be safe.

Would it seem that AT&T offers a $200 subsidy only if the iPhone were to be unlocked or available from other carriers? If the iPhone can only be used at AT&T, and is subsidized, then the retail price is meaningless, and the iPhone is instantly "devalued" to the subsidy price. I mean, why pay, let's say $399 or $499 retail, for a phone that can't be used anywhere? If discounting of an Apple product, in this case, every Apple iPhone sold in the U.S., were to happen, the biggest news on June 9 won't be the iPhone, it will be that the existing branding and marketing strategy of Apple -- that of never discounting products below the established retail price -- has been forever altered.

An AT&T subsidized iphone would encourage an AT&T subscription. Yes, it could still be unlocked, but why spend $500 and use it on T-Mobile if you can save $200 and go with AT&T?

Also, let's go back to the two bridges poster for WWDC. More and more I'm feeling like it could represent the two iPhone models.
 
i said all this on the last update about the specs, right b4 this one opened about an hour ago
i psychic
im not gonna repost it but i was the nxt to last 3
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple decide to enlarge the memory difference, making a 4gb iphone (the low cost model) and a 32gb iphone (the high cost model), everything else remaining the same in one or in another iphone. An iphone without 3G would be unacceptable for the market... and even a low cost iphone has to have a Wow-effect, the Apple high-end products effect: the GPS addiction for both models....

This addiction will make people consider buying an Apple phone... Although, they will be limited by the choice. There will be no middle cost model. Therefor, either you pay less (199$) and you'll risk to be short on memory for your docs, photos, movies, mails... or choose to accept paying big money to Apple (499$) which will make Jobs even happier.
 
2 versions is a great idea, probably true!!

I think that, given recent rumors and speculation, there might be some substance to the mentioned rumor that we will look forward to two models.

Why? I am still wondering what "a landmark event in more ways than one" means...

I thought it was related to a double product refresh (iPhone and MacBook (Pro)). But, given the pride Jobs has towards his iPhone, it might very well be that we are looking towards two devices.

A thinner iPhone (maybe not even 3G) with some functions and a "Newton"-like, feature rich (albeit slightly thicker than current model) iPhone "Pro".

That is my take.



Notebooks will be announced after the back to school program, or towards the end of it. That is the reason why current back to school program is so aggressive (and why they are giving a free Touch to everyone). We are looking towards a complete refresh of the notebook line in september (just an opinion), in time with the launch of Intel's new processors.
 
Two versions makes perfect sense...

The low cost one being sold all over the world

the high cost one being the carrier exclusive model Apple has to deliver!
 
Man I hate subsidies! Why?

B/c thats gonna stop me from importing an iphone cheap(er) and go with crappy TeliaSonera. Cant just Apple give us a REALLY cheap phone or subsidies and then trust us to go to AT&T and register? ;)

And for the "Thinner, thicker, both" thing, I'm gonna buy it anyway if it has GPS. Oh wait, I'm gonna buy it if it doesnt have GPS anyway.
 
As I recall, various previous generation iPods were different thicknesses depending on how big the drive was. If there's going to be a 32gb iPhone, it's possible that it will be thicker than the 16.
 
As I recall, various previous generation iPods were different thicknesses depending on how big the drive was. If there's going to be a 32gb iPhone, it's possible that it will be thicker than the 16.
No, the older ipods had HDDs, spinning discs you know. The iphone/touch has a flash memory. It is likely that Apple will use one 32 GB instead of two 16 GB, cheaper that way.
 
I don't know why people think the iPhone can't be thin and have all the features plus good battery life considering the recently announced Nokia E71 has an excellent (1500mh) battery, 3G, wi-fi, GPS, Micro SD slot, 3.2Mp camera, front camera, etc and is only 10mm thick with a smaller form factor than the iPhone v1.0.

In other words, 'phones of this size and this feature set already exist. Why would you suppose Apple would be incapable of making one?
 
The iPhone uses flash memory, so I can't see where the both thick and thin rumours come from, since chip sizes tend to be the same no matter the capacity.

The iPod Classic was thicker with some models because it had a bigger hard drive with an extra platter.
 
Another thing... Has anyone heard any mumblings of a concrete ship date?

I have my current iPhone for sale on eBay now. I would hate to be without a phone for a month.

i would guess they want them for sale asap considering the current models havent' been available through apple for a bit.

So you actually sold your phone based on rumors?! We have absolutely no idea that the 3G iPhone is coming next week. People are getting too worked up about this and are settings themselves up for a massive letdown when it doesnt have 32889 hour battery life or a 12 megapixel camera or whatever.

It is only a phone!
 
The "thin iPhone" specs are a complete fantasy. 3G + GPS + 20% thinner + better battery life + cost less??

Yeah, right. No frickin' way.

If the thin version was EDGE, though.... I could see it.

That would make much more sense, and explain the thicker version with a slightly larger battery for the 3G + GPS, both of which are power hungry. The 3G version might also add a second front-mounted camera for video conferencing, a sexy feature that also would be power-hungry, and explain the higher prices for the 3G model.

I'm a bit skeptical about the $200 subsidy as well, but it's intriguing.
 
This all sounds so cool, and still there is no indication on when the iPhone will come to the Netherlands...:mad:

Most countries in Europe have already announced the iPhone, but the Netherlands is still nowhere to be seen. If you consider the amount of jailbroken iPhones seen here on the streets I can't imagine Apple passing this market by.

Everyone and his dog has an iPhone here and I want one too, but not a jailbroken one. :mad:

Sorry for that, but I'm just angry that Belgium will get the iPhone before us. :D
 
If this is from Apple, they're doing a good job of confusing us. "I didn't understand a word you just said."

This is my first ever post on this site, and I just wanted to tell you all how excited all your excitement has got me. I don't understand most of it, but anyway :D

I've never owned a Mac in my life (had loads of ipods, which doesn't seem to count with you Mac types :))- although I'm wanting to buy a new Macbook or maybe a Macbook Pro at the moment (finally got fed up with my PC last weekend when it got the blue screen of death - :mad:). I'm also wanting a new iphone - had a blackberry for years (which I love) but looking forward to giving something else a go. I've been reading these forums avidly for about 2 months and looking at the problems some people are having, and absorbing the hype (and if I'm honest, totally falling for it). I've been lusting after apple products on their website (hold on, a computer that doesn't look like it's made of chewing gum? I'm confused...) I'm worried that the iphone doesn't do everything I need it to, can only hold 3 songs and half a photo, will delete all my addresses when i try to sync it to two computers and doesn't do wireless syncing, play music very well etc. but it doesn't seem to matter to me.

I haven't been this excited about what is frankly, a random date in the calendar, since I was about 6. Which begs the question, is Steve Jobs Father Christmas in disguise? If so, is WWDC attended by his elves? Do they all wear funny costumes, or are they all dressed in skin tight Mission impossible uniforms like the ones that the guys you see on the Apple website "demonstrating" new products with voices that sound like a stage hypnotist (it's all becoming clear now that I write this...) ;)

Seriously though - 3G is overrated unless you're trying to watch TV on your mobile - I know, i've had it for years on (shhh) Windows mobiles/ Nokias etc. The iphone's web pages seem to load pretty quickly anyway.

- What I care about is enough Gigs to hold all my music and a few episodes of the West Wing, South Park etc.

- Enough battery to last a full day (preferably 2) without charging.

- Ideally, it shouldn't be so big that I need to go up a jeans size to fit it in my pocket.

I don't need GPS - the iphone seems to know where you are anyway by magic (it must be those elves ;)) which is accurate to within a few meters. I'm not going to be left standing in the middle of the motorway because i'm using an old iphone instead of one with GPS. I've also got Sat Nav in my car, and know that GPS isn't always the best thing ever when it comes to getting around.

So if you're reading this Steve, an iphone with decent battery life, a slimmer shell and at least 32gigs would be nice. And make it cheaper. And wrap it in tinsel, and I'm there.

Sorry for my distended ramblings, but I'm a new convert to the cause, and they are always the most dangerous.

Cheers.
 
I find it hard to imagine Apple bringing out a thicker iPhone. If there is one thing that they have always done with product updates it is to make the form factor more slender and sleeker.

Look at the first iMac G5 to the current Aluminum iMacs. The iPod classic from 1st Generation to the actual iPod classics nows. The MacBook Air!

If somebody is going to upgrade they want something which is smaller in the pocket. The iPhone is fairly large for a phone as it is.

We shall wait and see...
 
Sorry for that, but I'm just angry that Belgium will get the iPhone before us. :D

Sure, we're getting them. But at what cost ? Unless Apple or Mobistar has found a loop hole in our consumer protection law, that allows for the iPhone to be subsidezed, it will cost a ton on money. And probably too much to have a large impact on the market here..

But what if that "thinner" iPhone were to be an iPhone mini ? :D That would be great. The iPhone is too large for me right now. Even though I'm afraid that Apple has them selves locked in with the rather large iPhone UI that requires a large enough screen, making a smaller form factor very difficult to introduce.
 
Can't wait for my 3G, GPS iPhone :) all that speed streaming Google maps with some good quality GPS location is going to be brilliant. Probably have to buy a car charger on the same day as the phone!

So close now.
 
Sure, we're getting them. But at what cost ? Unless Apple or Mobistar has found a loop hole in our consumer protection law, that allows for the iPhone to be subsidezed, it will cost a ton on money. And probably too much to have a large impact on the market here..

Ok so here is the question, as Belgium beat us good and proper in the Eurovision, shall we find out a way for you lovely people over there to get me a new iphone when it comes out, probably way before the UK gets it!:D:D
 
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What would be funny is if a new iPhone is not announced on June 9. :)

Dont even joke about that! You'll put a hex on the whole thing! :D
 
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