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Honestly, I dont think that plastic is the Apple way. I like the black background (as in I could live with it- I like aluminum better), but I don't think that Apple would go with plastic. 3G, GPS, etc. are all great- but the design should either stay the same and get thinner, or they should lose the chrome border and go with an iPod Touch look.
 
Despite it's presence on the bluetooth menu, I have yet to meet anyone who has successfully sent a file between two macs with bluetooth. :(

Well, now you have....

Powerbook G4 ---> MacBook (early 2006)

Sent small documents from one document folder to another. BUT this was with Tiger, not Leopard.

-Dan
 
I'm not too keen on the plastic look - either way, I'll probably keep my 1st gen iPhone for quite some time. The speed of the internet I don't consider that bad bearing in mind on GPRS - I can tolerate it as I've got a stupidly slow ADSL connection at home.

But +2 with Prof on side grips of some description.
 
All I care is that the iPhone will be 3G by December 27th, 2008. That is the date my Verizon contract ends. I think my wife and I already decided that we are both going to get iPhone's and make that our Christmas gifts to each other. Should be fantastic!

GPS isn't a huge game changer for me. Nice to have, but not a must have. Especially if it eats up battery life big time. I am generally very good with knowing where I am, so the current Google Maps features cover what I need.

Our T-mobile contract ends December 20th 2008, my birthday is 12/21:D

I'm going to get my wife and I iphone's also but think I will wait ooone more month until macworld 09, just incase 'ol stevo tries to pull a quick one. :rolleyes:
 
Plastic for GPS

Honestly, I dont think that plastic is the Apple way. I like the black background (as in I could live with it- I like aluminum better), but I don't think that Apple would go with plastic. 3G, GPS, etc. are all great- but the design should either stay the same and get thinner, or they should lose the chrome border and go with an iPod Touch look.

Maybe they need the plastic to not block signals for the GPS and other wireless. I hear MBP's have lower range because of the Al. As a matter of fact, isn't that why the bottom of the current iPhone is plastic? For a better signal?
 
Could someone make a mockup of an iPod touch and an iPhone mixed together? Kind of like a longer iPod touch with the ear-mic on it. I don't have photoshop...
 
It would certainly be tempting by itself (I carry a second phone to do tethering, bluetoothing contacts, pictures, etc.).. but yeah I agree however much bluetooth support is needed 3G is more important right now.

GPS I've had on other phones.. apart from the battery drain (which may or may not be worked around) I found it a bit of a gimmick.. I had it reporting my location to my blog for a while, and geotagging photographs is kinda nice, but beyond that.. meh.

But a GPS-equipped iPhone could serve as a navigation system for driving, complete with voice directions and real-time traffic updates. And battery drain needn't be an issue in the car.
 
Honestly, I dont think that plastic is the Apple way. I like the black background (as in I could live with it- I like aluminum better), but I don't think that Apple would go with plastic. 3G, GPS, etc. are all great- but the design should either stay the same and get thinner, or they should lose the chrome border and go with an iPod Touch look.

Even I said plastic because of the look, when in reality I just could not remember the zirconium material. Maybe I am wrong but most people probably mean a non-metal material when they say plastic..

That photo could be a photoshop reproduction of something they seen and are reporting because they do not have a photo of the real animal and instead created a representation of what they seen.

So even if a fake it may still be fairly accurate with what will be sold. The back of the iPhone IMHO needs to be made from some radio transparent material, Apple has several choices for that. Neither 3G, GPS or 802.11n like metal.
 
Something that has been bothering me about the current iphone design, Understanding that the small black portion on the back bottom is to allow for the antenna and signal to get through, why did they not put it on the back top? I find that the way you hold the iphone in your hand blocks the antenna on the bottom. Sometimes I have to hold it with two fingers with the palm of my hand extended away from the bottom.
 
Something that has been bothering me about the current iphone design, Understanding that the small black portion on the back bottom is to allow for the antenna and signal to get through, why did they not put it on the back top?
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...to keep the antenna away from the brain...
 
(As a practical example, if you ever see a large commercial jet engine in pieces, have a very close look at the compressor blades in the final 'hot' stages of the engine. Touch them - they look like a greyish sort of metal, but they feel more like a ceramic. Their composition is a trade secret - even the airlines don't know what they are made of - but they handle temperatures that would melt most metals.)

There is a little information if wikipedia is correct, and from what I know, it's correct.

"Nickel-based superalloys are used for HP turbine blades in almost all of the modern jet engines."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superalloys

I'd be willing to bet that they're a ceramic coated nickel-based superalloy. By the way, there are no compressor blades in the hot stages of jet engines. Those are turbines. The compressors' function is to get a large amount of oxygen into the combustion chamber for ignition.

Sorry that this is off topic, I just find it interesting and I think some of you will too.
 
a rounder thicker device is more palm friendly, thinking about 3g and wimax are boring subjects for me, because data services are far too expensive, a superior wifi client and cache would be of much more interest to me, or say a laser pointer or infrared port. if the phone had an infrared port and shot video at a decent resolution. i would be sold today, but untill its features mirror and surpass my treo's, i will postpone my migration. Im also waiting for the apps to come rolling in, once i can record phone calls on it, draw, track bus routes, visually interpret wifi hotspots, and use it as a remote for my tv, i will buy it and promote it to my constituents.
 
Doesn't anyone find it odd that Apple would make a iPhone 2.0 version, with only 8GB [Glossy Black iPhone Pic]? I thought the 8GB was end of life already, besides that don't you think that the new model(s) would have more memory? Say 16GB, and finally a 32GB model.
 
Despite it's presence on the bluetooth menu, I have yet to meet anyone who has successfully sent a file between two macs with bluetooth. :(

I have leopard and have sent numerous types of files from my MBP to macs. Illustrator files, word docs, I have no problems sending files via bluetooth to or from my MBP.:D
 
how about this...?

Apple's Worldwide Developers' Conference with Apple's Worldwide 3G iPhone...

maybe, maybe not...
 
Agreed, maybe black aluminum like the border around the iPod touch's front. If the black were to be black glossy plastic, it would be even easier to slip from your hands than it already is.

I don't know how many things you've held, but glossy paint has a much higher coefficient of friction than brushed metal. Most glossy surfaces offer more friction than matte surfaces.

I'm tired of seeing this comment repeated over and over again against the black glossy surface. It's ok to hate it because of how it looks, but please stop saying that the glossy surface is somehow slipperier as that is not true.

Matte surfaces diffuse light, which means that the actual surface is not uniform, it's full of pits and caverns. This means that what you are actually touching is not completely touching you. Thus the coefficient of friction is lower than on a glossy surface which is not diffuse. A glossy surface will have very little in the way of pits and caverns. When you touch it, the surface area touching you is far greater than a matte surface.

My wireless mighty mouse is a glossy object and I could push and pull it all day with minimal pressure from a single finger.

This is also why glossy surfaces are harder to keep finger prints off of them.
 
Paint? Right - lead based paint I'm sure :p

And congrats - you wont the smart@ss award. Of course I know there are small little spots of plastic on the PB's and MBP's but the overwhelming majority of the frame is metal - just like the iPhone.

Al Gore won't let them use anything other than something that's amazingly recyclable and that doesn't include plastic. Yay for anodized aluminum.

Of course I think they should sack up and make it out of Pyrowear - it'd be virtually indestructible!!! :)

The paint already exists. You acted like they were completely metal. I like the smart@ss award. And just because Al is on the board doesn't mean he has much of a say. It depends upon how Apple is set up as a company, and I'm sure he doesn't have a controlling amount of shares, so it really doesn't matter what Al thinks anyway.
 
You know the easiest way to end that argument is to point out AT&T has the exact same plan for the exact same price. $99 for unlimited - AT&T and Verizon rolled it out at the same time...

Now Sprint's deal - it's actually really good. Unlimited text, data, voice, TV, everything for $99.99. Here's hoping AT&T eventually adopts that pricing structure!

Yeah, but I'm long-winded and got trapped in the absurdity of actually paying for that plan. Really, the easiest way would have been to search the thread to realize that someone had already mentioned it.
 
I sure hope this is a bad rumor. Any thicker at all would be an extremely horrible move. The current iphone thickness is just at the edge of tolerable in my pocket. It works very well, but thicker would be a disaster and not at all justified by 3G or GPS. If anything, they need to be going thinner, like the ipod touch. If 3G requires making the phone thicker, then 3G technology just isn't ready yet and they should wait awhile longer.
 
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