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remember how we had no ideas at all before the 1st iphone was introduced to us by Steve himself?

what make you guys think we can get the photo before the release this time?
 
I would imagine that it means that if you were to measure the thickness of the 3G iPhone, it would be a measurement that is a small amount larger than the same measurement of the current iPhone.

:rolleyes:
My guess (and the logical probability here), would be that since the metal back of the current iPhone is virtually as thin as paper, that the extra thickness merely reflects the fact that other materials would not be as thin.

In other words, by changing the back casing material to some kind of composite/plastic or (hopefully) zirconia, they have to deal with a slightly thicker back case. The internal volume would be the same, and the back would be however much thicker the new material simply has to be to maintain it's structural integrity.

This would also allow Steve to merely announce that they are using this "cool new material" and not "we made it thicker." I think his Steve-ness would probably choke if he had to announce a thicker iPhone. :)

To answer the original question, this would probably make it a milimetre or two thicker at most.
 
the ipod touch is better technology than the iphone, (the inside design, board,ect..) the reason is not because it's lack of speakers even ,but beacuse it's just better techonolgy....that's why is thinner than the iphone..

which means the current iphone is designed years ago..
so there is no way the 2nd gen. iphone it's going to become thicker..

it's like changin the LCD back to the VGA in iMac..
 
Heck, the Pro laptop has been all metal for, what, 4 years now?

Try seven, and the case has never been all metal. It always had plastic somewhere for the antennas.

And I don't see what the big deal is with gloss black. It looks good and actually matches the top and bottom pieces. Plus, it could just be paint on aluminum. Someone posted about a self-healing paint that would do the trick nicely.

Don't know what the big deal is. The MBA, MBPro, iPhone all have antennas and that hasn't stopped apple from making them aluminum and I really haven't had any problems with Wi-Fi reception in my laptop or reception on my iPhone.

Me thinks they've got some insanely intelligent design engineers over there in Cupertino...

They do have insanely intelligent designers in Cupertino. I mean, you haven't even noticed that your laptop has grey plastic strips where the antennas are. They've hidden them from you. :D On the Powerbook they're on the sides of the screen and on MBPs it's a single strip on the hinge.

IIRC, the antenna in those models loops around the LCD panel, so its OK to put it into a metal enclosure if the antenna is huge. Meanwhile, the antenna in the phone cant be all that big, so its important to have part of it plastic.

It doesn't. They run up the sides on Powerbooks. There's not enough room at the top. I can't be sure about the MBPs, but as they antenna strip is in the hinge, I doubt it even goes into the screen at all.
 
glossy like the 5.5 iPod

I think the "glossy plastic" might actually be more of a glass-like material like the 5.5 iPod. For those that have the 5.5 iPod, the material is actually very sturdy and strong. I think if this is the next iPhone, it could be like that. Here's a pic. Also, for tradition sake, I think Apple should keep 1 or a few white products around. White iPhone anyone?

ipod_5.5g_big.jpg
 
I hope this is a dummy case. Just like how the design team didn't see the unit working and the electronics team didn't see the design with the first phone.

If the unit is thicker, they had to make new cases anyway. Hopefully a few dummy cases were produced to get a feel for the dimensions before the finished cases were made.

That said, I'm disappointed that engadget didn't mention the standard used for 3G. GPS was obvious if you look at the 2.0 firmware, and the inclusion of a location framework made it clear Apple would look to improve on the triangulation method. And then there's the references to the NMEA protocol in the new firmware.

Going to import one of these anyway. It'll be a while before it lands in the UK.
 
You know that little black plastic area on your iPhone? That's where the antennas go. And as previously stated, 3G, 802.11n, and GPS don't play nice with metal enclosures.

And I don't know if you've been keeping track, but people often complain about the wifi/cellular reception on both the MBP and the iPhone compared to the competition. Such is the price of fashion.

Yes, I realize the black plastic part is because of the antenna(s) and I'm 100% for keeping that - it blends nicely with the other black parts of the phone. Now if they make the whole thing black plastic, yeah, no. That's primarily the reason I haven't bought a MB - the MBPros are a little steep for me right now and I'm not going to buy a plastic computer...

As for some people complaining - even the best product in the world has complaints so I really don't care if a few people don't like the reception - I get outstanding reception and call quality/clarity.
 
Verizon has unlimited calling anytime - anywhere in the U.S. for $99. Who needs rollover minutes?

Oh yeah, that's surely better. Because I really do use my phone hundreds of times a day. Before I switched plans, I had over 3600 rollover minutes. That's over 60 hours of minutes in about 8 months. As it is, I used to get 7.5 hours of talk time. Since I only call my wife and a few close friends, I now get by sharing 9 with my wife. If I even used half of that I'd be wasting my time. I'm too busy to waste 4.5 hours of my month on the phone.

And by the way, AT&T does have unlimited voice calling for $99. And AT&T has always had free roaming and free long distance, at least in the last decade I've been with them. They're not features anymore. They're standards.

Let's think about it logically. I know this may not work for you, but for me it works perfectly. I work from 8:30 - 5:30—usually I stay until 6:00. I get home by 6:15 usually. I call my wife to see where she is on her journey across the bridge home. I pick up around the house and surf the internet for a bit. I'm never up early enough to phone anyone. Nights and weekends are free. I rarely use my phone at work—and I'm excited because my friend's iPhone actually penetrates the faraday cage that's my office. When I get home I'm too busy to call anyone, and even if I did, it'd only be 3 hours until my nights and weekends kicks in. And most of the people I call have AT&—i.e. free mobile to mobile.

I'll stick with my measly 4.5 hours, thanks. I'm also saving $140 a month doing so. Hell, even if it were only me I'm still saving $90. That's $1080-1680. I'll use that to put more principal on my mortgage to save even more in the long run. If you're seriously spending $1188 a year to talk more than me, and it's not paid by your company, I feel sorry for you.
 
Try seven, and the case has never been all metal. It always had plastic somewhere for the antennas.

And I don't see what the big deal is with gloss black. It looks good and actually matches the top and bottom pieces. Plus, it could just be paint on aluminum. Someone posted about a self-healing paint that would do the trick nicely.



They do have insanely intelligent designers in Cupertino. I mean, you haven't even noticed that your laptop has grey plastic strips where the antennas are. They've hidden them from you. :D On the Powerbook they're on the sides of the screen and on MBPs it's a single strip on the hinge.



It doesn't. They run up the sides on Powerbooks. There's not enough room at the top. I can't be sure about the MBPs, but as they antenna strip is in the hinge, I doubt it even goes into the screen at all.

Paint? Right - lead based paint I'm sure :p

And congrats - you wont the smart@ss award. Of course I know there are small little spots of plastic on the PB's and MBP's but the overwhelming majority of the frame is metal - just like the iPhone.

Al Gore won't let them use anything other than something that's amazingly recyclable and that doesn't include plastic. Yay for anodized aluminum.

Of course I think they should sack up and make it out of Pyrowear - it'd be virtually indestructible!!! :)
 
Oh yeah, that's surely better. Because I really do use my phone hundreds of times a day. Before I switched plans, I had over 3600 rollover minutes. That's over 60 hours of minutes in about 8 months. As it is, I used to get 7.5 hours of talk time. Since I only call my wife and a few close friends, I now get by sharing 9 with my wife. If I even used half of that I'd be wasting my time. I'm too busy to waste 4.5 hours of my month on the phone.

And by the way, AT&T does have unlimited voice calling for $99. And AT&T has always had free roaming and free long distance, at least in the last decade I've been with them. They're not features anymore. They're standards.

Let's think about it logically. I know this may not work for you, but for me it works perfectly. I work from 8:30 - 5:30—usually I stay until 6:00. I get home by 6:15 usually. I call my wife to see where she is on her journey across the bridge home. I pick up around the house and surf the internet for a bit. I'm never up early enough to phone anyone. Nights and weekends are free. I rarely use my phone at work—and I'm excited because my friend's iPhone actually penetrates the faraday cage that's my office. When I get home I'm too busy to call anyone, and even if I did, it'd only be 3 hours until my nights and weekends kicks in. And most of the people I call have AT&—i.e. free mobile to mobile.

I'll stick with my measly 4.5 hours, thanks. I'm also saving $140 a month doing so. Hell, even if it were only me I'm still saving $90. That's $1080-1680. I'll use that to put more principal on my mortgage to save even more in the long run. If you're seriously spending $1188 a year to talk more than me, and it's not paid by your company, I feel sorry for you.

You know the easiest way to end that argument is to point out AT&T has the exact same plan for the exact same price. $99 for unlimited - AT&T and Verizon rolled it out at the same time...

Now Sprint's deal - it's actually really good. Unlimited text, data, voice, TV, everything for $99.99. Here's hoping AT&T eventually adopts that pricing structure!
 
this cant be true. If i am correct, i remember Apple saying that the G2 iPhone will be less "plasticy"? am i correct? lol come on guys....you should be smarter than this. this is not and can not be the new iPhone, Stevo isnt that dumb.
 
Hi everyone,
First posting today. You made me to do that.

I'm baffled that no one really thinks out of the Box, Apple-like.

The Magic Word here is

CERAMICS.

Lightweight, scratch-resistant and no Problems with Signal reception (microwave dish, anyone !?)

And the Photo Shows exactly that.
Although Carbon Fiber would be cool, but could Not be polished this way.

Someone already mentioned, incorrectly, that Apple had looked into it. I bet they have got past the fundamental flaw in a ceramic application of this type though: SMASHING.

Also, Carbon fiber can be polished because of the resin that keeps it together. It can also be painted with glossy paint.
 
i really hope this isnt the finished product...if it is the entire phone is going to be a finger print magnet. glass touch screen...finger prints every where...shiny plastic? finger prints every where...Iphone 2.0...phone not for those with OCD...
 
The thing about a bigger battery is probably true, but all the new tech will probably bring the battery life down too, so it probably won't change that much. It's like laptops. The batteries keep getting better and better but at the same time the laptops need to run better graphics cards and more demanding hardware, so the battery life remains the same.
 
Additional features = great.

Thicker = bummer, but may be worth it.


I just hope the quality is good. I'm on my second iPhone, and it fails syncing all the time. My buddy has the same problem.

The quality problems at Apple are really becoming a bummer.
 
isn't that illegal?

I still think this is a fake leaked by apple in their ingenious propaganda scheme in which they attempt to fool all the rumor sites with fake prototypes. Like said before, the move from metal to plastic makes no sense. Apple has publicly made a stand to move toward more eco-friendly materials. Plastic's out. Look at the iPod and iMac for example.

isn't that illegal?
 
All of my Apple products are aluminum.

Black shiny plastic would look like %$*& after two weeks. ( I know its just a "projection" of what the next gen will look like - but damn).

I WANT ALUMINUM ! ! !

Put the plastic piece that is on the back of the current model on the top for antennas. Please leave most of the case Alum.

Also, I'll buy into a *slightly* thicker case, but only at the expense of battery life for a GPS and 3G (which is a no brainer). If it gets too thick, Ill be torn between getting the new and keeping my old one (which I L :apple:VE).
 
isn't that illegal?

Nope - not a bit. Now if they supplied Wall Street with fake prototypes or something that would impact the analysts directly then they are on a slippery slope but if they are using fakes to figure out who the moles are it's totally legal...
 
Despite it's presence on the bluetooth menu, I have yet to meet anyone who has successfully sent a file between two macs with bluetooth. :(

I don't think you need to use bluetooth, do you? Maybe just an "ad hoc" wireless network? I mean, we share files from our Minis at work, but honestly I don't know which protocol they use to communicate between them... :p

I've used bluetooth to communicate with mobile phones and PDAs successfully. :)
 
I don't think you need to use bluetooth, do you? Maybe just an "ad hoc" wireless network? I mean, we share files from our Minis at work, but honestly I don't know which protocol they use to communicate between them... :p

I've used bluetooth to communicate with mobile phones and PDAs successfully. :)

I couldn't find the original quote but I have done that before - sent a file across bluetooth between macs. I've also sent files between my Mac and another PC.

As to why you'd use bluetooth - it's quite a bit easier than hooking up to a network and getting the computer ID and all of that. Sending a file via bluetooth is very easy - at least that's my experience.
 
They also need to add rubber side grips to the iPhone. I can not tell you how many times my friends have dropped their iPhone when their hands were sweaty.

WHOO HOO!!! 1,000th post!!!


Areed, if my iPhone is out of the case - I drop it because it is to slippery! :(
 
Now, don't you guys think . . . .

Given past history of Apple's legal hounds, don't you think that if the photo was a real working phone, that they would send 'cease and pull photo' orders to the web sites that have it online?

As for the plastic-looking cover, there are materials that LOOK like plastic but are not.

-Dan
"Waiting, hoping, and praying for REAL GPS" :)
 
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