3GB of RAM Again Rumored for Next iPhone, Likely 5.5-Inch Model Only

[doelcm82]

I mean gone are the days when you just had to choose which storage you'd want, as every iPhone had the same specs otherwise.

Exactly. Those days when Apple made one screen size and you could either like it or take a hike.

Those days when Apple didn't care if you wanted a larger screen because they knew what was best for you.

The good old days. They're gone.
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Top of the iPhone page front and centre. They. Mention. Specs. When. It. Suits. Them. To. Do. So.
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Why can’t people get this? They could have said gorgeous photos and hi res video, but no. They put the data right there prominently and in print. Open your eyes man.

It seems that It. Suits. Them. when dealing with output specs (and of course, flash storage size). When dealing with internal specs such as RAM size and processor speed on iOS devices it generally Does. Not. Suit. Them.

 

[Porno]

Do people not understand on this forum that RAM is significantly limiting factor of what you can do on iOS devices?

they convince themselves that iPhone was better than android devices because the lack o RAM, gonna take some time to assimilate it...

 

[rhinosrcool]

Then there's the 10 million people who bought the 9.7" iPP, who have never heard of MR, aren't experiencing any of the so-called 2GB RAM doom, and are happily using it every . single . day.

And I'm one of those 10 million happy purchasers.

What a croc! Even though my iPP 9.7 is great, the safari refreshes are very annoying.

 

[recoil80]

Will Safari still constantly reload? I'm on the 6 and it does, not sure if this was fixed in the 6s?

I owned a 6 and now a 6s, I can tell you there is a huge difference for what concern safari and app reloading in general.

 

[panther quest]

In for all the complaints about specs when specs have never been something Apple has pushed. It's not about the processor inside but how the software and hardware work together. This is how Apple has been able to out perform others with far higher hardware specs in the past.

Does it really matter if they push the specs? If specs affect the experience they matter. More RAM equals less page refreshes in Safari, more recent apps open in their last state, more layers in Procreate etc. etc.

Like you say hardware and software optimization does give apple an advantage but specs do matter regardless.

For example the 4GB of RAM on the iPad Pro 12.9 make it the best, most frictionless iOS experience. The 2GB on the Pro 9.7 is noticeably worse.

 

[44267547]

What a croc! Even though my iPP 9.7 is great, the safari refreshes are very annoying.

True. Which was why alot of customers strayed away from the 9.7 for 2GB of Ram. It's annoying with refesh rates.

 

[recoil80]

True. Which was why alot of customers strayed away from the 9.7 for 2GB of Ram. It's annoying with refesh rates.

It is particularly annoying on the iPad since there is multitasking.
I don't understand why they put only 2GB on the smaller iPad pro.

 

[nordique]

Not really. This issue won't be fixed until Apple changes the way that RAM management fundamentally works in iOS. It might be a day later, but that Safari page is still going to refresh.

?

Well, I experienced quite a bit of safari tab reloading on my former iPad Air, 5, 5s, 6 devices.

Never came across it in Air 2, mini 4, 6s when I owned them nor SE now

Beyond my own and others anecdotal experiences, there are ample videos that demonstrate exactly how much better safari tabs and multitasking are wrt staying open thanks to the extra ram.

It most certainly helps. "Not really" may play into a fundamental level but on a practical level the extra ram changes the iOS experience when it comes to multitasking, at least for me it was extremely apparent and welcomed.

 

[lowendlinux]

For perspective, at this writing there are six smartphones available with 6 GB of RAM (fully double this 3 GB prediction), and at least one more will ship before Apple ships its iPhone 7 models. The 6 GB RAM smartphones available today are:

vivo Xplay5 Elite
ZTE Axon 7
ZTE nubia Z11
Lenovo ZUK Z2 Pro
LeEco Le Max 2
OnePlus 3

The LG V20 and/or Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe will likely ship before the iPhone 7. All of these devices have 5.5 inch screens, give or take. Yes, OK, Android generally requires more memory to accomplish substantially the same tasks. Nonetheless, Apple is not exactly wowing us. A bump to 4 GB of RAM across all iPhone 7 models would be somewhat more reasonable in 2016.

In the same respect I have 13 apps open right now on my phone none will need to redraw and I'm using 1.5GB 6GB is pretty silly.

 

[rammes]

I hate so many people in this thread.

Better of to another tread then
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God people are never happy.

don't worry i'm no god.

 

[rekhyt]

2GB is plenty. For more demanding games use a real mac.

640KB is enough.

 

[robeddie]

You can never have too much RAM. Surprised it's not an even number.

I have 16GB in my 4Ghz i7 5k iMac, and I just hope it doesn't crawl to a halt in 8 years' time. Perhaps I should have got 32GB.

In 8 years? Sure the ram may be a bottleneck at that point, but so will your processor, your hard drive, your system bus, your video card ....

 

[KidAKidB]

Will Safari still constantly reload? I'm on the 6 and it does, not sure if this was fixed in the 6s?

It was indeed fixed on the 6S which has more RAM. Funny how up until the 6S I kept saying that adding more RAM would fix the issue and most people would tell me that I'm wrong and that RAM has absolutely nothing to do with that issue. That it was an iOS limitation, etc.

 

[hiddenmarkov]

640KB is enough.

Bit low but...yeah, I am wondering why the 3gb.

What is being run on these phones. And would they be apps better run on say an iPad or actual laptop.

Also have to wonder how these apps are coded. I think there is becoming an implicit trust if its on the apple store it has to be good and perfect.

Apple verification checks many things...sometimes code with memory leaks gets by. And with any OS, i or otherwise, when you have leaky code more ram doesn't fix the issue. The developer fixing the code does. 2gb or 16gb...a leak left unfixed will drain that. 16 gb just drains longer obviously. It still leaks out.

 

[geta]

All these rumors about the next iPhone sounds so innovative, can't wait for it to be available…

 

[Abazigal]

What a croc! Even though my iPP 9.7 is great, the safari refreshes are very annoying.

Can't say I have experienced them on my iPad Pro 9.7", but everyone's mileage will vary.

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

I agree with others that they should have jumped to 4GB, but I'll take 3GB given the current way iOS works.

What people fail to realize is that RAM is a significantly limiting factor for what we can do on iOS devices. Apple has included these "Desktop-class processors" in the last couple generations of iOS devices, but one of the biggest reasons, in addition to battery life and a primarily touchscreen user interface, why we're not using our iOS devices like PCs, is the tiny amount of RAM available for apps to actually hold their data in.

A significant increase in RAM is the difference between us using our iPhones for these stupid quick ADD interactions, and longer, more sustained interactions and productive work.

 

[0lf]

If I use more websites and apps all open at the same time and it reloads then it's not enough ram, might be for you but for many people we prefer to have our devices go beyond and having extra ram is never a bad idea.

May be you can post a video of your workflow ? Does not seem very plausible to me.
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I agree with others that they should have jumped to 4GB, but I'll take 3GB given the current way iOS works.

What people fail to realize is that RAM is a significantly limiting factor for what we can do on iOS devices. Apple has included these "Desktop-class processors" in the last couple generations of iOS devices, but one of the biggest reasons, in addition to battery life and a primarily touchscreen user interface, why we're not using our iOS devices like PCs, is the tiny amount of RAM available for apps to actually hold their data in.

A significant increase in RAM is the difference between us using our iPhones for these stupid quick ADD interactions, and longer, more sustained interactions and productive work.

The main reason I use my iPhone like a phone instead of like a PC is because it is a phone (small screen, small UI...)
For iPad, it is another story.

 

[Havok83]

shocked, considering how long it took them to add 2GB in there

 

[rhinosrcool]

Can't say I have experienced them on my iPad Pro 9.7", but everyone's mileage will vary.

You're lucky. My iPad Pro 9.7 is still great, but sometimes it gets maddening. It seems to me there is always something Apple holds back for the next iteration.

 

[H2SO4]

Exactly. Those days when Apple made one screen size and you could either like it or take a hike.

Those days when Apple didn't care if you wanted a larger screen because they knew what was best for you.

The good old days. They're gone.
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It seems that It. Suits. Them. when dealing with output specs (and of course, flash storage size). When dealing with internal specs such as RAM size and processor speed on iOS devices it generally Does. Not. Suit. Them.

Fail.

Also, the below is a Mac admittedly but I repeat. When IT SUITS THEM. Please give up now you’re looking like you’re choosey when it suits you.

 

[doelcm82]

Fail.
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Also, the below is a Mac admittedly but I repeat. When IT SUITS THEM. Please give up now you’re looking like you’re choosey when it suits you.
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Read my post again. Apple has GENERALLY not been forthcoming on specs for the iPhone. You're right that they do it when it suits them (which is rarely). The Mac Pro is irrelevant to that discussion.

What's relevant to this thread is whether Apple will discuss the amount of RAM in the next iPhone. They've never done so in the past. It has NEVER SUITED THEM to do so for the iPhone. Never. Anything you post that is not overt Apple marketing for the iPhone discussing the amount of RAM in the iPhone is an automatic fail. You get half-credit if you can find something from Apple discussing the amount of RAM in the iPad, Apple Watch, or AppleTV. Quarter credit if you find something for the iPod. Good luck.

 

[macduke]

Funny that they put 1GB into the 6 Plus, which REALLY needed 2GB (third year with 1GB), but only keep 2GB for a year when it's not really needed yet. They should just double the RAM every two years. Now we'll probably be stuck with 3GB next year when we should have been getting 4GB, and the gap in performance between the small iPhone and Plus size will widen. I know Apple wants to screw skew the numbers towards the Plus to increase sales, but many of us have no intention of ever buying a Plus because it's just too big, so we feel like Apple is leaving us out in the cold. They did the same thing with the SE, leaving out some key features. I'd gladly pay more for a properly spec'd 4.7" iPhone, even if it is a little thicker to make room for the dual cameras and extra battery for similar performance/RAM. Just call it the iPhone Pro. The MacBook Pro is faster and thicker than the MacBook. This probably also means the iPad Pro 12.9" isn't moving beyond 4GB any time soon, and when it does in a couple years it will probably only go to 6GB and not 8GB.

 

[robeddie]

Wait. They're not going to put 3GB of RAM in the SE? But that's what I was planning on getting when my contract is up in September. WTF Apple; don't you know you need to design your phones around my specific needs and no one elses?

That attempt at a joke would be relevant if every persons complaint about the iphones was different. But it seems theres fairly wide agreement on the complaint that Apple withholds features on their smaller screen phones, for no reason.
Could be wrong, but certainly seems theres a market for top tier, smaller phones.

 

[doelcm82]

That attempt at a joke would be relevant if every persons complaint about the iphones was different. But it seems theres fairly wide agreement on the complaint that Apple withholds features on their smaller screen phones, for no reason.
Could be wrong, but certainly seems theres a market for top tier, smaller phones.

At top tier prices? One nice surprise for those who wanted the iPhone SE was its unexpectedly low price. But a different strategy for Apple would be to charge a premium for smaller iPhones with the same features, since fitting the premium features into a smaller package is more difficult/expensive.