To have a tantrum is to be human. We're all kids who want our toys. Our toys just get more decimals in them as we grow older.
Please dismount the high horse, it's imaginary anyway.
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4-6weeks (Deliever May 13 - May 27th) pre-orders
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To have a tantrum is to be human. We're all kids who want our toys. Our toys just get more decimals in them as we grow older.
Please dismount the high horse, it's imaginary anyway.
For some reason not getting my watch today doesn't feel like a big deal, at least I know I have one coming. Apple does their best and I give them credit for being professionals about it. I'm sure they get a lot of BS emails and calls of people crying and bitching.
PS - I'm a 3:05 EST.
PS - I'm a 3:05 EST.
.Watch just arrived! It was sent to work so now I have to wait for them to do the cart run. Pics coming soon
Which model?
Guys -
Unless someone here knows exactly how many watch components Apple ordered, in what combinations they were ordered, how many components were delivered to production, how many were produced, how many passed quality assurance, how many they expected to be delivered to them, how many were actually delivered, whether or not their were issues in the supply chain, whether or not there were issues in the shipping, whether or not any of those issues were foreseeable, how many were pre-ordered, when they were pre-ordered, where they pre-ordered, how many they expected to be pre-ordered, when they expected them to be pre-ordered, and where they expected them to be pre-ordered, you do no have enough information to say "why didn't Apple just do X, Y, or Z." You have no idea what they did or didn't do and a few hundred (AT BEST) anonymous reports on a web form (which by the way would represent somewhere in the vicinity of .00005% of overall orders) is not enough to tell you ****.
You chose to stay up late to order it, despite no one guaranteeing you that you would get the model you wanted by today. You had a choice to not buy the watch or buy a different model when you saw the ship date. You staying up increased the likelihood of you getting what you wanted faster then someone who didn't, but that is it (which BTW is why I did not stay up). If you expected something other then what Apple promised you then thats entirely on you. If they had supplied the stores, it would have meant far fewer people who pre-ordered would be getting watches today, and that each model would have been in such short supply at the store that it would have been tough to get the one you wanted.
Lets not forget that due to some combination of supply and demand (and you don't know which or the variables underlying either), a lot of people who had 4-6 week ship dates are getting watches today. That is a win for Apple, not a loss. Just because you aren't getting yours doesn't mean everyone else should have had to have waited.
To those getting their watches, I am immensely jealous. If I was pissed, I would be an absolutely ridiculous person.
Unless someone here knows exactly how many watch components Apple ordered, in what combinations they were ordered, how many components were delivered to production, how many were produced, how many passed quality assurance, how many they expected to be delivered to them, how many were actually delivered, whether or not their were issues in the supply chain, whether or not there were issues in the shipping, whether or not any of those issues were foreseeable, how many were pre-ordered, when they were pre-ordered, where they pre-ordered, how many they expected to be pre-ordered, when they expected them to be pre-ordered, and where they expected them to be pre-ordered, you do no have enough information to say "why didn't Apple just do X, Y, or Z." You have no idea what they did or didn't do and a few hundred (AT BEST) anonymous reports on a web form (which by the way would represent somewhere in the vicinity of .00005% of overall orders) is not enough to tell you ****.
You chose to stay up late to order it, despite no one guaranteeing you that you would get the model you wanted by today. You had a choice to not buy the watch or buy a different model when you saw the ship date. You staying up increased the likelihood of you getting what you wanted faster then someone who didn't, but that is it (which BTW is why I did not stay up). If you expected something other then what Apple promised you then thats entirely on you. If they had supplied the stores, it would have meant far fewer people who pre-ordered would be getting watches today, and that each model would have been in such short supply at the store that it would have been tough to get the one you wanted.
Lets not forget that due to some combination of supply and demand (and you don't know which or the variables underlying either), a lot of people who had 4-6 week ship dates are getting watches today. That is a win for Apple, not a loss. Just because you aren't getting yours doesn't mean everyone else should have had to have waited.
To those getting their watches, I am immensely jealous. If I was pissed, I would be an absolutely ridiculous person.
Seems like there are people who are upset with Apple, when they choose to supply their stores with iPhones.
"I pre-ordered my phone, why are people just allowed to walk into a store and pick one up, but my phone won't be here until Christmas??!?!?!?!11111??!?!11!@2121"
So when they choose to not supply stores, but only take care of online pre-orders, they get ripped. I mean, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.
"I pre-ordered my phone, why are people just allowed to walk into a store and pick one up, but my phone won't be here until Christmas??!?!?!?!11111??!?!11!@2121"
So when they choose to not supply stores, but only take care of online pre-orders, they get ripped. I mean, they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.
I think the same thing. However, it's interesting that the MR community seems to be a good cross-section of what was ordered.
It's a small sample size, but once one person has movement on say, a Space Gray, a lot of people do.
It's been fascinating to watch (no pun intended).
Got to pick your battles peeps. Be disappointed, angry, jealous etc. That's human nature. Sending hate mail to Tim Cook or mind-wrangling with some CSR at Apple is just a waste of cranial integrity. Bono could probably get a watch today if he wanted one.... you and me, not likely.
You could not be more correct if you tried.
Honestly, if a product is going to be in limited supply I think the pre-order route is the fairest. There is one queue and everyone and everyone is in it. And I say that as someone who would have definitely been in line at a very early hour if they'd been in stores.
I don't think the issue is not getting on day 1. I think the issue is that people who ordered within 2 mins of going are getting the snide over someone who ordered hours or even a day later. That's just not a fair shake. Those who ordered within the first milliseconds should be getting the watches long before those who were promised Late May or even June.
Yeah but it depends on the watch. If someone ordered a green band sports, and one ordered a black band sports, and the green band was ordered at 4am, and the black was at 3am, and they had more green, then that makes sense.
I have yet to see where people who ordered the same exact watch, where someone later got it before someone who ordered earlier.
Anyhow, I'm not holding out any hope anymore till May 13th.
I don't think we have enough information to determine if the MR forums is a representative sample of pre-orders. I would think not for a variety of reasons, the least of which being that by virtue of it being an English forum it is likely to to skew the sample towards Americans when a large number of pre-orders likely occurred in China. I also think that there is a self-selection bias as I think those who are unhappy are far more likely to be lurking these forums then those who are perfectly satisfied.
You are right to say the information is interesting and informative, thats why I am here after all. We just need to be clear about what it can tell us and what it can't, and us hearing unverified reports that 20 SS Link bracelets have shipped to a handful of people on this forum really doesn't give us enough information to extrapolate beyond that. For all we know, they've shipped 200,000 of them but demand was off the charts in China. Or they've shipped 12 of them, and it was the people on the forum getting lucky. We just don't know, so we shouldn't blindly speculate or pretend we know more then we do.
I had a dream that I was using my watch all day, only to wake up and find out im still processing.
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I read somewhere that apple will offer in store band exchanges (in order to minimize returns) within the first 14 days of receipt
The logic only works if it is the exact same model... it would make sense there Apple has more of some models then others, and that customers have pre-ordered some models more then others. If I had to guess why some are shipping earlier then the stated estimate, it is because some models have a greater then expected supply (b/c of lower demand, increased production, expedited shipping, etc, etc). The only caveat would be that I am sure a certain number of watches are allocated by country due to import considerations and predictive models based on regional tastes. So (for example) I could see someone in the UK getting a SS Link sooner then someone in the US because that model was less popular there and thus they were further up in line. Now I don't know if that is that case, but thats the only reason I could see some differences there.
Apple says they are being distributed first come first serve. I've seen no reason to believe this isn't the case. And if you do see some evidence, just remember that this is a anonymous forum w/ its fair share of trolls. Take it with a grain of salt.
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This.
I mentioned the 50% to an apple rep yesterday. He told me he was still using the finance option. When you walk in the store and see genius wearing the watch edition you know who I was talking to.