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Full size desktop computers run fine with 1 GB RAM, and 128 MB or video RAM (which is not necessarily the same)
Except when running Java applications; which is what other OSs that run 'Davlik is not Java' do; then you might want more RAM.

Desktops/laptops swap out to disk when they run out if RAM. That is not an option on the iPhone/iPad. Apples and Oranges.
 
Why spend time messing about trying to work out resolutions etc when this is just a Goophone 6. A clone based on leaked / rumoured iPhone 6 specs.
 
You're right it's not more, but it'll be very close to the same. So my question remains. You asserted that 1 GB was enough for "a PHONE", implying through emphasis that it would not be the case for a tablet. So would 1 GB still be enough? Much tougher call, I think.

I didn’t assert anything, I was just clarifying the resolution comparison of a 5.5” @ 2208 × 1242 vs. an iPad @ 2048 x 1536 :)

I believe the post (and user) you’re referencing is this one:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/19545323/
 
Admittedly, I'm not sure what you do with TouchID/Home Button if you look to reduce the bottom bezel.

Thinking back, Apple has filed patents for flexible displays, camera's behind the display (not above, but center), etc. If future materials allow, the camera could be placed behind the LCD panel (don't ask me how, I just recall the patent), and the Touch ID sensor could be incorporated into the display. The speaker could be placed along the top edge, thus solving logistics, yet I have no idea on the status of flexible LED/OLED displays.
 
-1GB isn't enough, sorry apple fans.
-A8 will be a beast as was the A7. Hello snapdragon you caught up a year later?
-Samsung alpha is "only" 720p
-iPhone display has been consistently been top quality
-hello LG 2K display overheating
-android has recently passed iPhone in battery life but somehow iPhone's battery life is terrible?
-NFC on the iPhone is huge, this is what will bring it to the masses.
-iPhone build is second to none.
-sapphire glass for the masses
-bulletproof ecosystem that just works.

There's no "perfect" smartphone, but this is what the iPhone makes waves and sells millions at launch.

All of those are your opinion.

However, I actually agree with all of them apart from the first one! For me, 1GB of RAM is enough.
 
It looks like I'm going to need a new computer (or a better screen), if the 4.7 inch phone is higher resolution than my 13" MBP and the 5.5 inch version is higher resolution than my 1080p monitor.
 
So compared to the S5 it has:

A smaller screen
A lower resolution
Half as many processing cores
Half the RAM
Lower MP, non 4K capable camera
Much smaller battery (nowhere near 2800 MaH)
A little bit thinner

Keep in mind I'm talking about the 4.7" version which competes with the Galaxy S. The rumored 5.5" is the direct competition to the Galaxy Note.

Now how can Apple release a phone that loses on the spec sheet so badly when it has a 6 month advantage?
 
There was a time when Apple had the best phone on the market; the iPhone 4. It had the best screen of any phone and it was super smooth with a elegant design. But because Apple had that silly exclusive deal with AT&T many people ended up with Android instead. So when iPhone hit Verizon it was already a 7 month old phone. And then the iPhone 4s came out which was not that much different. This was when Apple fell behind in my opinion. Android got better and screens started to match or surpass the retina display.
Many Android users including myself want to see that Apple magic but it appears that Apple just wants to play catch up. We already know that Apple makes a smooth elegant phone but this is not good enough. Where is that ground breaking feature? Or how about put that 64 bit processor to better use with more memory?
Introducing that 64 bit processor so early might back fire on Apple. Google might have a tablet with a 64bit processor, 64bit operating system with 4gigs of ram and quad HD display. That tablet will undercut the iPad in pricing. And next year we should see the first phone with 4gigs of ram.
The engineers at Apple are a lot smarter than u. If the iPhone or iPad needed more than 1gb of ram it would have it. 64bit does not magically get better with more ram on a mobile OS.
 
So compared to the S5 it has:

A smaller screen
A lower resolution
Half as many processing cores
Half the RAM
Lower MP, non 4K capable camera
Much smaller battery (nowhere near 2800 MaH)
A little bit thinner

Keep in mind I'm talking about the 4.7" version which competes with the Galaxy S. The rumored 5.5" is the direct competition to the Galaxy Note.

Now how can Apple release a phone that loses on the spec sheet so badly when it has a 6 month advantage?

Because the spec sheet doesn't matter and the iphone 5s still destroys and/or holds its own to competitors when it comes to processing power despite having half the cores "on paper"
 
Now how can Apple release a phone that loses on the spec sheet so badly when it has a 6 month advantage?

Because Apple does not compete with Samsung. Apple did not enter the race to the bottom. Apple makes iOS devices that compete and canabolize each other.
 
Am i the only one doubting that this is a real iPhone 6 because they aren't sharing any more details ?
Be honest, if we had an working iPhone 6 in our hands, we would show every detail about it. Even what iTunes would show if you connect it to your computer, like modelnumbers etc.. not only a message saying that you dont have an internet connection.

Second, i doubt that this is an real iPhone 6 because it would probably have IOS7 running looking at the "Connect to iTunes" screen. Which i think is impossible. If it was an real working iPhone 6, it would be running a beta version of IOS 8 or some kind, and it would show a "Connect to iTunes" screen which would fit the entire screen and not at the old resolutions IOS7 uses. I think they have used this 'old' "Connect to iTunes" image in its original size because if they had to stretch it to fit the 4,7inch screen it would look terrible.

Third, i you look at the clip of him rotating the phone, you will see that there is no LED flash light in this model. There's something else in it's place. You see that it is a hollow space when he holds it in an angle.

(sorry 4 bad english)
 
i agree but i've already left the ecosystem. I sold my macbook. Now i'm down to the iphone and ipad. If the ipad stays at 1gb and then that's strike two. At that point i will probably try android or a windows phone. I don't use many apps but need a 4.7-5" high res screen. I love the galaxy s5 screen and want something similar like that on the iphone. It appears doubtful though as more and more rumors are pointing to a 720pish resolution screen.

I was so excited for the 9th but slowly losing faith.

dont let the door hit you on the way out!!!
 
So compared to the S5 it has:

A smaller screen
A lower resolution
Half as many processing cores
Half the RAM
Lower MP, non 4K capable camera
Much smaller battery (nowhere near 2800 MaH)
A little bit thinner

Keep in mind I'm talking about the 4.7" version which competes with the Galaxy S. The rumored 5.5" is the direct competition to the Galaxy Note.

Now how can Apple release a phone that loses on the spec sheet so badly when it has a 6 month advantage?

You seem to be horribly misinformed. The 5S with its dual core A7 is noticeably faster than the Galaxy S5 in almost every task imaginable (and the benchmarks back this up). I would suggest reading something/anything about the way modern CPU's work before commenting further on this. For a quick example, see how the Intel quad-cores stomp the octo-core AMD's: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/5

Additionally, most photographers (actual photographers, not some guy who knows how to take a selfie) agree that the 5S has the best camera outside of maybe the better Lumia's. The 5S objectively has a much better sensor and signal processing than the S5's camera, and performs much better in low-light (with or without flash).

Regarding RAM, I won't defend Apple's decision to go with 1GB if that is, in fact, true, but it's probably still vastly better than the S5 running TouchWiz because of how much of a RAM-hog TouchWiz is. Here's a fun screenshot from an S5 user on Android Central who was ONLY using his phone to stream HBO Go to a Chromecast:
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I hope Apple does include 2GB, but the reality is that 1GB running iOS is probably quite a bit better than TouchWizified Android on 2GB.

Regarding battery, the S5's improved battery life over its predecessor is almost entirely due to the lower power consumption of the Snapdragon 801. Note the difference between the S5 and S4 in Anandtech's LTE test:
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It's going to be hard to say how this will turn out when the iPhone is running a 20nm A8 on iOS 8 -- I would not be surprised at all if an 1800 mah battery is enough to beat the S5 on battery life.

One point I'll completely agree with is that another 326 ppi display in the 4.7" model would be quite disappointing. If they can hit the 1704x960 resolution, though, it'll have just north of 400 ppi and that would probably not be noticeably different than the 1080p 5" Androids. This is probably unlikely, though, for the reasons Gruber put forth.

If the rumors about the 5.5" version are true, however -- with its @3x resolution, 2900 mah battery, and OIS, it'll probably crush the new Galaxy Note in every respect.
 
The engineers at Apple are a lot smarter than u. If the iPhone or iPad needed more than 1gb of ram it would have it. 64bit does not magically get better with more ram on a mobile OS.

You're assuming the engineers have the final or full say over what goes into an iPhone. That is almost certainly not true. While engineers are respected at Apple, I'm sure there are quite a few battles they've lost along the way. For the most part that kind of tension is good for the company, but they probably don't always get it right.

Also, 64-bit can "magically" get better with more RAM, since 64-bit computing uses significantly more RAM. Certainly it is not a simple solution, but more RAM can definitely help. As I pointed out earlier, there may be things that a developer leaves out of an app because of RAM budget that you aren't even aware that you're missing.
 
iPhone users are so tech stupid that if you tell them that they have 512MB of ram they would think that they have 511MB more than a 1GB phone. iphone users don't buy for specs. Those that do jumped to Android a long time ago.
So why should Apple upgrade the RAM? Their still going to buy the phone.

and you my friend are obviously a ship jumper because you spelled "they're" "their"...plan to swim back to the ship anytime soon? if so, go back to school first...
 
You seem to be horribly misinformed. The 5S with its dual core A7 is noticeably faster than the Galaxy S5 in almost every task imaginable (and the benchmarks back this up). I would suggest reading something/anything about the way modern CPU's work before commenting further on this. For a quick example, see how the Intel quad-cores stomp the octo-core AMD's: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/...view-core-i7-5960x-i7-5930k-i7-5820k-tested/5

Additionally, most photographers (actual photographers, not some guy who knows how to take a selfie) agree that the 5S has the best camera outside of maybe the better Lumia's. The 5S objectively has a much better sensor and signal processing than the S5's camera, and performs much better in low-light (with or without flash).

Regarding RAM, I won't defend Apple's decision to go with 1GB if that is, in fact, true, but it's probably still vastly better than the S5 running TouchWiz because of how much of a RAM-hog TouchWiz is. Here's a fun screenshot from an S5 user on Android Central who was ONLY using his phone to stream HBO Go to a Chromecast: Image

I hope Apple does include 2GB, but the reality is that 1GB running iOS is probably quite a bit better than TouchWizified Android on 2GB.

Regarding battery, the S5's improved battery life over its predecessor is almost entirely due to the lower power consumption of the Snapdragon 801. Note the difference between the S5 and S4 in Anandtech's LTE test: Image

It's going to be hard to say how this will turn out when the iPhone is running a 20nm A8 on iOS 8 -- I would not be surprised at all if an 1800 mah battery is enough to beat the S5 on battery life.

One point I'll completely agree with is that another 326 ppi display in the 4.7" model would be quite disappointing. If they can hit the 1704x960 resolution, though, it'll have just north of 400 ppi and that would probably not be noticeably different than the 1080p 5" Androids. This is probably unlikely, though, for the reasons Gruber put forth.

If the rumors about the 5.5" version are true, however -- with its @3x resolution, 2900 mah battery, and OIS, it'll probably crush the new Galaxy Note in every respect.

False, the Galaxy is more practical and is more dynamic. That's your problem. My S5 hardly uses any RAM and maybe that device has too many software bugs? Touchwiz is simply a great OS skin and does everything I need for me. The Note 4 and G3 are the best phones for 2014. iPhone 6 pales in comparison vs the mainstays.
 
False, the Galaxy is more practical and is more dynamic. That's your problem. My S5 hardly uses any RAM and maybe that device has too many software bugs? Touchwiz is simply a great OS skin and does everything I need for me. The Note 4 and G3 are the best phones for 2014. iPhone 6 pales in comparison vs the mainstays.
The iPhone 6 has not been released! Let's not forget you're on a Apple forum.
 
Yeah yeah yeah yeah, whatever... :rolleyes:

SHOW us someone turning it OFF then ON, and I want to see the Apple logo ON THE SCREEN WHILST IT BOOTS. Once it has booted, lock the screen with the sleep/wake button then SHOW THE LOCK SCREEN. Hearsay and fakery are easily pulled off, we're not all fooled so fast.

Honestly, do these "leakers" think the majority of us came down in the last shower? They must do.
 
Way too much silly analysis with everybody guessing based on this or that leaked part or a bunch of leaked parts cobbled together. Is it so difficult to wait for 9.9 when all will be revealed?

Waiting for launch dates and press releases isn't what rumors sites are for. Duh.
 
Way too much silly analysis with everybody guessing based on this or that leaked part or a bunch of leaked parts cobbled together. Is it so difficult to wait for 9.9 when all will be revealed?

^ Right on, as you always are. Is there a class where these people go to learn this rubbish? It's the "How to make a fool of yourself through endless speculation, based on any combination of vaguely related theories and pieces of information from the internet, whatsoever, in 5 days, or your money back" class - and anyone can join, as it would appear from the lack of lateral thinking present in relation to these "leaks".

Astounding... there's just SO much unbelievable naivity, lack of insight or lateral thinking ability in relation to this junk, that it makes me laugh.
 
So skip the thread instead of griping about it. You are not required to read and respond to every thread on here.

Way too much silly analysis with everybody guessing based on this or that leaked part or a bunch of leaked parts cobbled together. Is it so difficult to wait for 9.9 when all will be revealed?
 
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