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My wife and I have swam (pools, salt water pools, the intracoastal), showered repeatedly, worn in hot-tubs/spas, both of our Apple Watches, and we've been owners since day 1 (her's literally a first delivery from a pre-order, mine 3 weeks later). No issues.

The only issue I can see is the desire to never take off your watch.
 
I wear my watch while sleeping, usually for sleep tracking but also HomeKit items (can control from bed). Surprisingly useful (though the sleep tracking needs work. I recharge when eating, showering, in bathroom, playing with my cats-an hour a day, I suppose, is enough to make it always run.
Can the watch automatically detect sleeping or do you use something to start monitoring it? I want to use my watch instead of the 1 use Fitbit I have.
 
And also I don't think that many people are wearing their watches while sleeping.. (only use case would be sleep tracking but therefore you will probably need a battery life of about 5-7 days to make it really useful).

I use my Apple Watch every night for sleep tracking and it's really useful, I can assure you. 5-7 days battery life for useful sleep tracking? How long do you sleep? Lol.

Normally I charge the battery in the morning after I get up and if needed in the evening while watching TV etc.
If the battery is at 100% and I don't charge it until the 10% alert appears, the battery lasts 36-39 hours at casual use.
My most used apps are: Sleep++, WeatherPro, Avea, Fantastical, Airmail, Wunderlist, iSmoothRun, Timer, BuyMeAPie, iMessage and Siri. At normal use, but not casual, of these apps, the battery lasts much more than 24 hours also.

Presumably and imho, the Apple Watch 2's battery will last as long as the Apple Watch 1, using GPS for workouts or short navigations.
 
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One study on rats doesn't suddenly invalidate tons of multi-year studies on humans, control studies and peer review. Especially what we know from animal studies being prone to bias and non-transferability.

Notably the National Cancer Institute has this informative page summarizing the current and past research in this field: http://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/radiation/cell-phones-fact-sheet

But most obviously with the exploding use of mobile phones we should see a rise in incidences of brain cancer in the past decade, yeah? Spoiler alert: we haven't.
 
I use my Apple Watch every night for sleep tracking and it's really useful, I can assure you. 5-7 days battery life for useful sleep tracking? How long do you sleep? Lol.

Normally I charge the battery in the morning after I get up and if needed in the evening while watching TV etc.
If the battery is at 100% and I don't charge it until the 10% alert appears, the battery lasts 36-39 hours at casual use.
My most used apps are: Sleep++, WeatherPro, Avea, Fantastical, Airmail, Wunderlist, iSmoothRun, Timer, BuyMeAPie, iMessage and Siri. At normal use, but not casual, of these apps, the battery lasts much more than 24 hours also.
My wife couldn't get away with that. I'd say it would be doable for more people if it charged at least twice as fast as it does. As is her phone is dead by the end of the day some nights. No way it would last through the evening.

I think the issue is most folks charge overnight. They don't take the time mid day (or whenever else) to charge these devices for various reasons. I have to say I'd have difficulty charging mid day. Multiple times a day would also be a deal breaker.

I could be wrong here but based on the reading I do most folks don't use this as a sleep tracking device simply because of these battery limitations. My feeling is that I shouldn't have to make any sacrifices for something like this. Once it's a major inconvenience it's just not worth the hassle.
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So, make a product thinner, people complain. Include more battery, people also complain. There is just no pleasing some people...
What if I told you the people complaining in these two scenarios are likely not the same? (I'd have created a Morpheus meme but in lazy). :)
 
My wife couldn't get away with that. I'd say it would be doable for more people if it charged at least twice as fast as it does. As is her phone is dead by the end of the day some nights. No way it would last through the evening.

I think the issue is most folks charge overnight. They don't take the time mid day (or whenever else) to charge these devices for various reasons. I have to say I'd have difficulty charging mid day. Multiple times a day would also be a deal breaker.

I could be wrong here but based on the reading I do most folks don't use this as a sleep tracking device simply because of these battery limitations. My feeling is that I shouldn't have to make any sacrifices for something like this. Once it's a major inconvenience it's just not worth the hassle.
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What if I told you the people complaining in these two scenarios are likely not the same? (I'd have created a Morpheus meme but in lazy). :)

Charging to 100% takes about 2 hours. What's the problem to charge it in the morning (for half an hour or maybe 1 hour) while you take a shower and have breakfast and also in the evening for another hour?
You're wrong, if you say, you can't use it for sleep tracking because of battery limitations, it's absolutely possible, you can believe me because I do this every night.
You don't need sleep tracking? Charge it over night and everything is ok also.
My Apple Watch and also my iPhone (6s Plus) have never run out of battery during a day and that is what really counts. Read the most comments of the Apple Watch owners, not the comments of the none Apple Watch owners (who are complaining about the battery life all the time) and you can believe the battery life is not a major inconvenience.
 
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I would upgrade in a heartbeat if this is true. If I use my watch as a watch it'll happily get through two days, but the thing is... I don't. I use it for one of its intended functions, to help track gym and fitness use - if I use it even for an hour of tracking it will last the day - if I'm lucky.

People who use it as just a watch want it slimmed down, everyone else wants a better battery, I can't use it and never have been able to if I want it for a long session of fitness tracking, the battery is crap and we established this a few days after release, hopefully for once Ming is correct.
 
I would like the Watch to be thinner but I would rather they use the space for a battery and get me atleast a few days of operation before needing to recharge. 35% more may get me through 1 day of normal use .... not how it is at the moment where I am constantly aware of the rapidly diminishing battery so I don't use it as I would like to.

All that said I see nothing in this generation worthy of an upgrade. Until Apple find a way of making the Watch independent of the iPhone without needing an extra Sim then there is no real progress.
 



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A purported photo of a larger 334 mAh lithium-ion battery destined for the Apple Watch 2 has surfaced on Chinese microblogging service Weibo, foreshadowing expected battery life improvements coming to the wrist-worn device.

The battery is allegedly for the 42mm model, which currently has a 246 mAh battery, suggesting the next-generation 42mm model could have a 35.7% larger battery. The photo does not provide any clues about potential battery life improvements coming to the smaller 38mm model, which is currently equipped with a 205 mAh battery.

The veracity of the photo cannot be confirmed, as is often the case, but KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said an Apple Watch 2 with a higher capacity battery will launch later this year. The larger battery should unsurprisingly lead to longer battery life for the Apple Watch, which is currently rated for up to 18 hours of mixed usage and up to 72 hours in Power Reserve mode on a single charge.

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The much-rumored Apple Watch 2 is expected to be released in late 2016 with a faster TSMC-built processor, GPS, barometer, superior waterproofing, and a higher capacity battery -- but no cellular. Both 38mm and 42mm screen sizes will be retained with thinner display technology adopted. The device could launch in September alongside the iPhone 7 and spec-bumped Apple Watch 1 models.

Article Link: 42mm Apple Watch 2 May Have 35% Larger Battery
Apple is happy with the battery life of device. This kind of bump in battery pack means new radio. Probably the rumoured GPS addition.
 
Can the watch automatically detect sleeping or do you use something to start monitoring it? I want to use my watch instead of the 1 use Fitbit I have.
You'll need a sleep tracking app. Sleep++ is, at the moment, the most useful app for that. You can use the app with a complication on your watch face. To start and stop monitoring you tap on that complication.The app uses the motion sensor of the Apple Watch. Tracked sleeps are also transferred to the Health app. The Apple Watch itself has no sleep tracking feature.
 
I agree but when they add GPS it needs a much bigger battery

And i have a feeling the possibilties of the hw are limited/crippled in the current Apple watch because Apple choose for better battery life over using the hw to its real potential. Now they made some real optimization in watchOS 3 to speed things up, but watchOS 3 will really fly with the new Apple Watch .
Shame they won' t include cellular this year , though. They should and they would have had a real winner. Shame we won' t see it this year but perhaps next year.
 
"I want thinner and lighter!" - iPhone users

"I don't want thinner and lighter!" - iPhone users
 
this is why I call for standards so much. We have not only proprietary cables, but many different proprietary cables between devices. In this way, going USB c was a great move IMO, albeit a strange one coming from Apple.
And dongles, don't forget the dongles... (!!!)

Whenever Apple goes for wireless charging it's going to be a huge relieve. Plus, when wireless (I.e. Beamer, wifi, ...) will be more prominent ... it may be a thing of the next 5 years, I guess.
 
Apple watch tells the time better than any other watch ever made

Actually the Apple Watch is terrible at telling me the time. I love the watch, but I hate it when I have to tap the screen or twitch my arm manically just to see the time! It doesn't always happen, but it happens often enough to be annoying.

I agree that the extra battery is probably to handle the new GPS capabilities but I am really hoping that it may also allow some sort of constant display of the time. Just a small digital display of hours and minutes would be a massive improvement.

It's unlikely to be added, but would fix the biggest issue with the watch for me.
 
Not sure I'll buy another Apple Watch. Lately the whole ecosystem has been faulty. Keychain doesn't work on the iPhone anymore and notifications no longer appear on the watch. Apple doesn't seem able to fix it, despite both devices being hard reset. We shall see...

It must be your set up as my watch has never missed a notification from any app
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The only issue I can see is the desire to never take off your watch.
If Apple can get wireless charging right for the iPhone then maybe they might develop the same for the watch so that it charges on your wrist whilst you are sleeping or in the same room
 
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If you workout for any length of time, the watch battery life sucks. First thing in the morning I do is hit the gym. Usually at about 60% battery before 7AM. Granted I let it charge while I get ready for work when possible.

Improved battery life will be welcomed though.

Agreed. I'd like to see 2 days of real use even with gym time factored in. That would increase usability dramatically for me.
 
What's the big difference? It probably leads to forgetting to charge your Apple Watch every second night instead of making it a habit every night. And also I don't think that many people are wearing their watches while sleeping.. (only use case would be sleep tracking but therefore you will probably need a battery life of about 5-7 days to make it really useful).

exactly. Either it lasts at least a week or I'll recharge it every night anyway...
 
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