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Actually the Apple Watch is terrible at telling me the time. I love the watch, but I hate it when I have to tap the screen or twitch my arm manically just to see the time! It doesn't always happen, but it happens often enough to be annoying.
watchOS 3 fixed this for me 100%
 
And i have a feeling the possibilties of the hw are limited/crippled in the current Apple watch because Apple choose for better battery life over using the hw to its real potential. Now they made some real optimization in watchOS 3 to speed things up, but watchOS 3 will really fly with the new Apple Watch .
Shame they won' t include cellular this year , though. They should and they would have had a real winner. Shame we won' t see it this year but perhaps next year.

meh I don't want a $30 a month plan for my watch unless the watch was good enough that I could ditch my phone all together
 
watchOS 3 fixed this for me 100%

I haven't found any difference with watchOS 3. I guess it's subjective. I often have my arms crossed and want to look down and see the time. This usually only involves twisting my wrist a little bit, which isn't enough for the OS to pick up the movement. I then have to tap or shake it, which can be awkward when the fact that you are looking at the time may be considered rude!
 
Shame they won' t include cellular this year , though. They should and they would have had a real winner. Shame we won' t see it this year but perhaps next year.

Can someone explain or list real, everyday use cases for cellular on a smartwatch?

I really don't see them. You already have audio/phone capabilities in known Wifi zones at home etc. with the current Apple Watch version.

On the other hand, there are many drawbacks with cellular support on a smartwatch:

- Another data plan in most countries ( expensive, would kill mass-market appeal)

- Little to no screen space on Watch (that's why most native AW apps failed in the first place, there's not so much use for streaming/accessong lots of data)

- Poor battery life, bulky design
 
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I just retired mine and went back to my old faithful Seamaster. I think smart watches in their present state are little more than a technological curiosity.

I kind of agree but having notifications and ApplePay on your wrist is handy so I'm willing to be patient with my AW a bit longer. My hope is Apple has hired a watch case design team and will start to release watches that are actually stylish rather than geek bricks. If we are talking style points, your Seamaster crushes AW.
 
I'm quite looking forward to this, id say overall the Apple Watch has been my most favourite non Mac Apple device for a fair few years. I certainly prefer it to both iPad Pro's i've got - if you had to take one of the three away id give up those straight away.

Will be quite a good month if I can buy a new Apple Watch and iPhone 7 together - both running new software i've not yet tried. I'm kind of excited for faster charging on the iPhone alone - new car charger and home charger and i'll be able to zap it up in capacity really easily and quickly.
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To say Apple Pay on your wrist is handy is more than just a pun. I literally have stopped carrying my wallet.

It's truly fantastic - I just wish the big Supermarkets in the UK would move to all contactless terminals (or at least on self checkout) - but they over pay for their checkout terminals and aren't willing to upgrade them yet. I can go to all the tiny small local shops and pay contactless but not the supermarket.

...then we've got the local Starbucks here, which doesn't have either contactless or take AMEX and two out of the last five times going didn't take card at all and I had to go to the local cash machine haha.
 
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It's truly fantastic - I just wish the big Supermarkets in the UK would move to all contactless terminals (or at least on self checkout) - but they over pay for their checkout terminals and aren't willing to upgrade them yet. I can go to all the tiny small local shops and pay contactless but not the supermarket.
We are lucky in Australia (except for Melbourne for some reason?), you'd be hard pressed to go anywhere, even the tiniest coffee shop or market stall, where they don't have a paywave terminal.
 
I'm itching to see how this stacks up against the Gear 3, both devices are pointing towards a solid update.
 
I don't agree. For a (men's) watch it has the perfect height. Not too much and not too little.
you can't speak for every dude on the planet so don't do everyone. because you will never speak for me
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What's the big difference? It probably leads to forgetting to charge your Apple Watch every second night instead of making it a habit every night. And also I don't think that many people are wearing their watches while sleeping.. (only use case would be sleep tracking but therefore you will probably need a battery life of about 5-7 days to make it really useful).
Yes, you think that many people are not wearing it while sleeping...so don't so many cus you can't even prove this either. so something more like, I can GUESS without any evidence that people may not wear during sleeping. This is more believable.
 
If you workout for any length of time, the watch battery life sucks. First thing in the morning I do is hit the gym. Usually at about 60% battery before 7AM. Granted I let it charge while I get ready for work when possible.

Improved battery life will be welcomed though.
BS. I work out for 1-2 hours (type set to Other) and when I hit he sack that night I have 30-40% left. I have never, ever ran out of juice.

as long as the AW is an accessory to the phone, I don't see why it needs battery life longer than the phone. I charge my phone every night at bed. watch too.
 
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I haven't found any difference with watchOS 3. I guess it's subjective. I often have my arms crossed and want to look down and see the time. This usually only involves twisting my wrist a little bit, which isn't enough for the OS to pick up the movement. I then have to tap or shake it, which can be awkward when the fact that you are looking at the time may be considered rude!
Maybe the watch should do iris tracking?
 
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Yes, you think that many people are not wearing it while sleeping...so don't so many cus you can't even prove this either. so something more like, I can GUESS without any evidence that people may not wear during sleeping. This is more believable.
My 'evidence' is that all but one of the couple of dozens of Apple Watch users I heard speaking about this, said they do charge their watch overnight. That sample might be biased but I cannot think of a reason why it would be biased towards 'night-charging-people'. Thus, for lack of better data, my working theory is that the overwhelming majority of Apple Watch user do not wear it while sleeping.
 
as long as the AW is an accessory to the phone, I don't see why it needs battery life longer than the phone. I charge my phone every night at bed. watch too.

Agreed. It's a painless habit to charge both devices every night. If the AW battery lasted 3-4 days I bet more people would forget to charge it.

The only inconviences are business trips or holidays. There's always a Lightning cable somewhere you can borrow/use but not so many AW chargers (maybe that's changing in a few years).
 
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I've actually been very impressed with my watch's battery. The watch IS something I would like to see thinness improved on over battery, ironically.

Totally agree with you on this one. And, I also am not keen to have a big battery strapped to my wrist seeing as how they have been known to explode.
 
We are lucky in Australia (except for Melbourne for some reason?), you'd be hard pressed to go anywhere, even the tiniest coffee shop or market stall, where they don't have a paywave terminal.

That is cool - I'm tempted to move to Australia one day. If they'd let me in on the points system!
 
My 'evidence' is that all but one of the couple of dozens of Apple Watch users I heard speaking about this, said they do charge their watch overnight. That sample might be biased but I cannot think of a reason why it would be biased towards 'night-charging-people'. Thus, for lack of better data, my working theory is that the overwhelming majority of Apple Watch user do not wear it while sleeping.

Yes all in theory. And yes my friends 10 of 12 say they all say pigs can fly. No proof in my and no proof in yours. He and she say. All theory
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The only issue I can see is the desire to never take off your watch.
I own about a dozen nice watches, all above $20,000 and above each. Each one when I wear them, I tend never to take them off unless I want to change to a different one to match my decor. Hence the reason this worthless watch will decrease in value every day. Can you resell this same gen 1 watch 5 years like for 1,000% of its current value? In 5 years you probably won't even get half the money back. Sheeps will follow other sheeps I guess. Hahaha
 
With GPS I might actually consider upgrading, especially if general speed is improved and if battery still stays similar (2 days if you stretch it.)

The one thing that would stop me is if they changed the band connector, at that point I am done with AW.
 
If this is to offset the addition of GPS, that's great, but I'd imagine GPS would only be used when specifically making use of it, right? If someone didn't use GPS to track their runs, they'd effectively just get the 35% boost?

As a light user, I'd imagine a 35% boost combined with more efficient components would result in a pretty large longevity boost. That being said, faster components might cause me to use it a little more thoroughly :p
 
Charging to 100% takes about 2 hours. What's the problem to charge it in the morning (for half an hour or maybe 1 hour) while you take a shower and have breakfast and also in the evening for another hour?
You're wrong, if you say, you can't use it for sleep tracking because of battery limitations, it's absolutely possible, you can believe me because I do this every night.
You don't need sleep tracking? Charge it over night and everything is ok also.
My Apple Watch and also my iPhone (6s Plus) have never run out of battery during a day and that is what really counts. Read the most comments of the Apple Watch owners, not the comments of the none Apple Watch owners (who are complaining about the battery life all the time) and you can believe the battery life is not a major inconvenience.

You're asking people to change their habits. Period. They either see the benefits from the technology worth making those changes, or they don't. I find the watch very useful for the things I use it for, but I'm not about to change my habits to accomodate it where it falls short for my use case. I couldn't care less what other people do.

Agreed. It's a painless habit to charge both devices every night. If the AW battery lasted 3-4 days I bet more people would forget to charge it.

The only inconviences are business trips or holidays. There's always a Lightning cable somewhere you can borrow/use but not so many AW chargers (maybe that's changing in a few years).

Again, advocating changing someone's habits to accomodate the technology.

I take this exact position on Bluetooth wireless headphones -- it's painless to charge my headphones once a day for the benefit of listening to music without wires, rather than plugging and unplugging, wrapping and untangling wires a dozen times a day. But there are some who reject this on the face of it. And I get that. I'm not going to try to convince someone who doesn't want to have to charge their headphones, that plugging their headphones in overnight, along with their phone and watch, is simpler than their wire management rituals repeated throughout the day.

The reality is, it's not the requirement of charging overnight that I object to adjusting to, it's your last point -- what happens if I forget? And that's really the bottom line for most. If you forget for whatever reason, what kind of protection is afforded the user? Right now, it's none, with finding a charger out and about being on the high side of difficult at the moment. In fact I'd have an easier time finding a USB-C cable at the moment, and that's no easy task either ...
 
Maybe the watch should do iris tracking?

I like it! Although I'm guessing that would take more power than an always on display.

If having an always on OLED display would take too much power then maybe they could include an e-ink screen under a transparent OLED screen? That would only require power when changing, so a display showing hours and minutes would probably be very battery friendly.
 
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