Extremely well said. They’ve become a fashion company without concern for functionality. It’s bizarre but I guess it makes them money. Of course, that attitude lead to their near bankruptcy in the 90s when pros moved to other platforms that actually supported their work.
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4K ProRes Video Recording on iPhone 14 Pro Still Requires at Least 256GB Model
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I personally don't see the appeal of using an iPhone for film making. I don't want to tie up my phone and communications device on set as the production tool. An iPhone costs now as much as a Blackmagic Design Pocket 4k camera. Sure that may not include lenses but there are a ton of good budget level lenses out there now.
The way Apple sells these phones and limits the cool new video features to the latest model one would need to upgrade their phone every year which costs a lot. Just to match many of the capabilities of existing video cameras. It may seem like its a free video camera you get with the phone but you are paying for that camera and three lenses and three sensors. Lets say over the past three years one bought a Pro iPhone to shoot video first for the better computational low light, then for the cinematic mode and now for the cinematic mode in 4k. Thats $3,300 in three years vs a camera that can already do all of that that will last many more years. You can get a P4k for $1,300 and the other $2,000 will buy a lot of lenses, audio, lights and support gear. all of which will yield 1000x better movies than just shooting with the iPhones.
Apple promotes film making on the iPhone with a high production value crew because thats the only time video looks good from an iPhone. Unless one has the budget for a full crew and equipment the iPhone is nowhere near a production ready camera.
Don't get me wrong. Its neat what it can do and for those that wanted a new iPhone anyway its cool to have a video camera this good in their pocket. But no professional is going to rush out and buy an iPhone for a serious production. They may utilize sometimes as a tool to accompany other cameras on a production but nobody is going to plan a budget production around just using an iPhone. Not unless they were hired by Apple to do so for marketing and promo reasons.
When Apple figures out a way to add/remove storage at will, add/remove batteries at will and control aperture or some sort of chemical or electronic ND to adjust exposure then and only then will pros consider using an iPhone for serious work. Using just the shutter speed to adjust exposure outdoors is the absolute opposite of professional video.
The way Apple sells these phones and limits the cool new video features to the latest model one would need to upgrade their phone every year which costs a lot. Just to match many of the capabilities of existing video cameras. It may seem like its a free video camera you get with the phone but you are paying for that camera and three lenses and three sensors. Lets say over the past three years one bought a Pro iPhone to shoot video first for the better computational low light, then for the cinematic mode and now for the cinematic mode in 4k. Thats $3,300 in three years vs a camera that can already do all of that that will last many more years. You can get a P4k for $1,300 and the other $2,000 will buy a lot of lenses, audio, lights and support gear. all of which will yield 1000x better movies than just shooting with the iPhones.
Apple promotes film making on the iPhone with a high production value crew because thats the only time video looks good from an iPhone. Unless one has the budget for a full crew and equipment the iPhone is nowhere near a production ready camera.
Don't get me wrong. Its neat what it can do and for those that wanted a new iPhone anyway its cool to have a video camera this good in their pocket. But no professional is going to rush out and buy an iPhone for a serious production. They may utilize sometimes as a tool to accompany other cameras on a production but nobody is going to plan a budget production around just using an iPhone. Not unless they were hired by Apple to do so for marketing and promo reasons.
When Apple figures out a way to add/remove storage at will, add/remove batteries at will and control aperture or some sort of chemical or electronic ND to adjust exposure then and only then will pros consider using an iPhone for serious work. Using just the shutter speed to adjust exposure outdoors is the absolute opposite of professional video.
More ridiculous the fact that in order to transfer these massive video files you still have to use USB 2.0 Lightning or have to rely on wifi.
Some people have reported it taking DAYS to transfer a 500gb prores file to their Mac Pro for editing. Insanity. And Wi-Fi isn’t much better as stability with massive files suffers.
Yeah, just got a 13 Pro with 128 cuz I wanted to save the $100 😑
my belief is people are confusing the fact that they can still record video in 4k.
If ProRes was a necessity, 128/256/512 should-would not be an option for you...
If ProRes was a necessity, 128/256/512 should-would not be an option for you...
At this point you’re just being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Maybe someone has professional needs where they don’t need to record so much footage. Or maybe a non-professional wants to be able to record any amount of footage.
There’s no justification for them selling a phone with a camera that has one of the camera functions disabled. I don’t care if it can only record for 20 seconds. Either give people the option to do so or don’t make the phone at all.
Since it’s not at all clear that the phone is actually missing a feature relative to the next storage capacity in the lineup, this is only going to lead to some confused or upset people out there who don’t understand why their iPhone 14 Pro doesnt have a feature that the iPhone 14 Pro was advertised as being capable of.
Yeah that's what I find ridiculous... With this feature last year the 13 Pro's should have had USB-C, or even going back to the 12 Pro redesign. But Apple loves its lightning royalties...
The 128gb model “cant use the camera”? That’s a little too large a claim, even if I understand the frustration over 4K on the 128gb model.
Apple seems to benefit from the fact there just isn’t competitors with the same refinement in HW and SW (even if iOS is extremely limited) at the $1200+ level. Android just isn’t there yet and I don’t see another OS coming to market. Apple has a monopoly on this high end market for now.
I wish I knew about the distinction I didn’t
But 128 is still the capacity for me and still not a deal breaker
No doubt Mr. Soderbergh purchased the amount of storage he needed.
He doesn't strike me as a person who whines about not getting free stuff.
"for the sake of being argumentative", no i truly believe what apple did is correct. the problem with endless complaints is apple stops listening. attack apple where it they need to be attacked. this is not one and will simply be drowned out from apple's ear like the rest of the unreasonable complaints.
128GB storage speeds can be slower to the point where it cannot record 4k prores for one.
techspecs page lists it.
Customers should vote with their wallet and don’t buy these products, that might help apple to reconsider their anti-consumer practices. I am certainly skipping this generation (and I generally upgrade each year).
This is not Apple specific, but if “making money for shareholders” is a company’s sole reason for being, that company is unethical.
Memory is cheap, apple shouldn’t charge that much for it considering the phone is already overpriced as is.
I wish jobs had it his way and there was still just one iPhone, with different capacities. This whole plus, pro and pro max is only a way to squeeze more money off customers, there should be just one model with all the features available at that time, as it was when jobs was alive.
No, the phone is not overpriced. If Apple overpriced their phones, no one would purchase the 600,000+ iPhones Apple manufactures and sells every single day of the year (on the average). People vote with their wallets as there are loads of phone choices out there.
Rather than complain, send Apple a strong message by simply voting with your wallet and purchase a Samsung or other phone.
Will you do it?
In the U.S. you can return a new Apple product within 14 days days. So one could order at 256Gb iPhone and return this 128Gb reject after about 12 days. It would be a hassle but better than regretting what you bought IMO. (I got the 128Gb ... will stick w/ it as I don't do movies but had I realized this limitation I would gave gone w/ 2156Gb.) As to the description of 4K video, an asterisk is definitely needed, see screen capture.
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