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4K Videos on a 16GB 6s ? Design Flaw or Deliberate ?
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Most everything you say is a lie honestly. At least it is distorted because you are all over the place this argument depending on how it helps you defend Apple from looking greedy.
You are OK with Apple upping from A8 to A9
You are OK with Apple strengthening the chassis. Even though it has nothing to do with bending according to you
You are OK with Apple improving the camera, including adding 4K
You are OK with Apple doubling the RAM
Yet you continue to argue that they don't need to innovate on the space? Why can they improve on all these things without raising the price, but to double this in the base model (by far cheaper than anything else in this list) becomes a massive ordeal?
Android double the storage to 32GB because they are desperate. iPhone is stealing massive share from the high end phone makers. Apple is not in that desperate state.
Facts show that many people still love 16GB phones. It is still the most popular tier phone sold.
Again you need to pay a little extra for the elite phone. Just like you pay more for a BMW vs an Acura.
Samsung S6 32GB - $650
iPhone 6s 64GB - $750
Tens of million are willing to pay that small $100 premium if 16GB is too small.
Oh for sure, I would have prefered it if they doubled the memory as I'll likely be going for 64GB due to 16 being too small for me, but it's what Apple wants, of course.
Most everything you say is a lie honestly. At least it is distorted because you are all over the place this argument depending on how it helps you defend Apple from looking greedy.
You are OK with Apple upping from A8 to A9
You are OK with Apple strengthening the chassis. Even though it has nothing to do with bending according to you
You are OK with Apple improving the camera, including adding 4K
You are OK with Apple doubling the RAM
Yet you continue to argue that they don't need to innovate on the space? Why can they improve on all these things without raising the price, but to double this in the base model (by far cheaper than anything else in this list) becomes a massive ordeal?
You are comparing two TOTALLY different things.
Phone capability (CPU, camera, build quality, RAM, ect) vs
Phone capacity (on board memory)
Some people just don't need more capacity. You buy the phone capacity size that fits your lifestyle. Its pretty simple really.
Its like someone getting mad at BMW when they can't fit their family of 6 into a BMW 325. It wasn't meant for his family! You get the car that fits your family size. Same with phones. Buy the phone that fits the capacity you require.
Why did Apple double the $100 iPhone 6 model's capacity, when that would only eat into 64 GB upsales for another $100 on top of that? Why did Apple spend so much on R&D for Force Touch, or double the RAM on the 6s, when that would only eat into profit?
Sometimes, even a company as big as Apple has to put customers & product over profit & shareholders. I wonder how many people switched to Android because the 64 GB model was too expensive..
Aaaaaand back to the car argument. I can see you hit your wall. Capacity and capability for phones are TOTALLY different, but phones and cars aren't???
So people need capability with the latest revision and with that they don't need capacity? See what many of us are saying is that with more capability, users should have more capacity. They go hand in hand. This is typical of computing hardware evolution since the beginning.
Apple double the mid tier and top tier memory to make those phones more attractive.
And it makes 100% sense. Why not make the phones that have the highest profit margin more attractive? All companies do this. Companies always want to sell you the top of the line model.
I don't think Apple lost very many switchers to Android. iPhone units are up about 35% for the iPhone6 while the top-tier Android makers are losing massive share. Frankly $100 isn't much when we are talking about $650-$850 phones.
Aaaaaand back to the car argument. I can see you hit your wall. Capacity and capability for phones are TOTALLY different, but phones and cars aren't???
So people need capability with the latest revision and with that they don't need capacity? See what many of us are saying is that with more capability, users should have more capacity. They go hand in hand. This is typical of computing hardware evolution since the beginning.
The only thing that will require more capacity is 4k video and live photo's.
Both features can be turned off.
And we are talking about a mere $100. Which is pennies a day for a phone you keep for 2 years.
So, why not do the same to the base model a generation later? Make the new iPhone more attractive to upgraders and switchers, who otherwise may hesitate?
If you make the bottom tier more attractive you will make the mid/top tier less attractive.
Everything is relative.
Apple wants to give people incentive to buy the mid/top tier. The low tier is doing great already. Its the best selling tier as confirmed by Senior VP of marketing.
exactly.
You still get many features like 3d touch, 2GB ram, faster CPU, better camera.
Doubling the 32 GB middle tier served little purpose other than to save users who need 64 GB $100, and make the iPhone more attractive to switchers/upgraders. It isn't more attractive to those who actually need only 32 GB, as it is now twice what they need at the same $100 price.
Now, a generation later, it makes sense to do the same to the base model. People like myself, who still have the 32 GB iPhone 5s, would have a lot more incentive to upgrade for $100 cheaper.
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Most users of iPhones don't know how the new features correlate to space on disk. They WILL be frustrated when they find out they can't use these features. Or have to constantly go to Geek Squad to help move data.
Look, people buy the cheapest phone just to get an iphone. It is still very expensive! To say to them then, well, just turn off those things is ridiculous. A premium phone should not be crippled out of the box.
16GB is too small. Most people that buy the 16GB only buy it bc its the cheapest. Like a lot of my family. Only to realize 100 photos later its filled. Then to the comp, upload photos and redo. Most people are not buying it bc they only need 16Gb, its bc its the cheapest.
Everything in this world is money related.
Everything in this world is money related.
If you want to use a car analogy warrior, you need to have a similar comparison and yours about the number of people it can fit is not correct.
A correct analogy would be how much room is available inside the cabin of the cars to accommodate larger people and give people more comfort. And this IS addressed every generation where cars get larger and the interior space gets larger.
A correct analogy would be how much room is available inside the cabin of the cars to accommodate larger people and give people more comfort. And this IS addressed every generation where cars get larger and the interior space gets larger.
That depends. If apple wants it to be priced at 650...then it is what it is. It's still a base model...the lowest, cheapest model available for iPhones. Every company has their base model at their desired price. If they don't like it because they can't afford it, then they have no business in purchasing an iPhone if it goes beyond their pricing range.
They "should" bump it to 32..but they don't have to. It's their business. They can do it whatever they want. They couldn't care less if you didn't purchase one.
It's all marketing. Release a base item that barely has any storage. It doesn't matter if you find it viable or not. The whole objective is to get you to buy the higher priced ones. Why complain about it? If you don't find it useful, buy something else or spend the extra hundred.
Please Apple. Please make the base models worth buying..lol Yep, they'll get right on that..
Please Apple. Please make the base models worth buying..lol Yep, they'll get right on that..
Live and learn you get what you pay for. Besides if you can't afford $99 dollars then you probably don't have a 4K TV anyway.
I guess if that is where Apple's attitude is going with user experience of their products, then so be it. Most everyone here seems to be fine with that and even argue strongly for it. Perplexing, but they have their brainwashing, er marketing, down pat.
The 16GB model isn't premium is basic.
Look I agree that its stupid to make a 16GB model they should make it at least 32GB that's on Apple and marketing to get that extra hundred out of people. That said my daughter, mom, and wife will never use 4k video and could careless. They are perfectly happy with what they have and never run out of storage. I think the wife has like 10 apps were I have close to a hundred.
I guess what I'm saying is yeah its deliberate to get the extra hundred. You can call it greed or marketing.
I wouldn't call it brainwashing.
Look I agree that its stupid to make a 16GB model they should make it at least 32GB that's on Apple and marketing to get that extra hundred out of people. That said my daughter, mom, and wife will never use 4k video and could careless. They are perfectly happy with what they have and never run out of storage. I think the wife has like 10 apps were I have close to a hundred.
I guess what I'm saying is yeah its deliberate to get the extra hundred. You can call it greed or marketing.
I wouldn't call it brainwashing.
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