Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
$999 is the only new feature that matters.

I can ignore everything else because it practically won't exist for me until the price comes waaaaaaaaay down.
 
Fanboy aside.... This was a rushed product. A lot of what seems to be an afterthought or completely disregarded. Sloppy UI elements, incongruent spacing, finicky gestures and a hit or miss facial recognition. This was definitely a “me too!” design.
So are you going to get the black or the white color option?
 
  • Like
Reactions: aylk
This list feels like a determined (desperate?) effort to convince the reader that the X is worth the price.
 
  • Like
Reactions: aylk
The largest iPhone display ever.
Uh, nope. The iPhone X will have a display area of approximately 12.8 square inches, while the iPhone 6 Plus, 6s Plus, 7 Plus, and 8 Plus all have a display area of approximately 13.3 square inches.

iPhone Plus:
1920/401 = 4.79" tall
1080/401 = 2.69" wide
Total area: 12.89sqin

iPhone X:

2436/458 = 5.32" tall
1125/458 = 2.46" wide
Total area: 13.09sqin

Subtract out the notch and round corners and it's a smaller surface area.

You can't beat math. Also, the iPhone X display doesn't support landscape for the home screen (based on tests at the hands-on area), which also probably means that it doesn't support iPhone Plus-style landscape layouts.

Did you two fail elementary school? The area of a given space is a function of the length of the hypotenuse because the vertical and horitonzal sides depend on the hypotenuse (pythagorean theorem). The iPhone X screen measures in at 5.85 inches and mathematically has a larger surface area than the iPhone 6SSS (8) with or without the notch. You can't beat math.

It does not take a genius to know that a 5.85 inch screen is larger than a 5.5 inch screen.
 
Fanboy aside.... This was a rushed product. A lot of what seems to be an afterthought or completely disregarded. Sloppy UI elements, incongruent spacing, finicky gestures and a hit or miss facial recognition. This was definitely a “me too!” design.

Typical stuff you read around here! People judging something they have never tried, felt or seen in person. It happens every single year, and I really mean every single year a new phone comes out. And after few years nostalgia takes over and all the sudden is the best iPhone Apple have ever made. O boy.....!!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: fourthtunz
It's another beautiful phone from Apple but most of those "50 features" are like each car ad saying it has doors and wheels.

The more I read this website, the more convinced I am this is paid by Apple.
 
Why would that be a problem? The iPhone 7 won't care if you plug the 29 watt charger into it. It just won't charge much faster than a 10 watt iPad charger. The Phone will just draw what it can use and nothing more.

I was told by an employee st the store I bought it from that it would destroy my iPhone battery, that's why I'm paranoid
 
Did you two fail elementary school? The area of a given space is a function of the length of the hypotenuse because the vertical and horitonzal sides depend on the hypotenuse (pythagorean theorem). The iPhone X screen measures in at 5.85 inches and mathematically has a larger surface area than the iPhone 6SSS (8) with or without the notch. You can't beat math.

It does not take a genius to know that a 5.85 inch screen is larger than a 5.5 inch screen.
For the record, I am REALLY ANNOYED that I had to take time out of my day to illustrate this in Photoshop. Before you go around hurling insults by asking people if they failed elementary school, ask yourself a question: Am I qualified enough to call out someone who failed elementary school? The answer, by virtue of your comment, is a resounding no. I've prepared an extremely simple proof below.
macduke-math.jpg

TL;DR: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I expect I'll never hear from you again, because you can't beat math! However, instead of giving up on your entirely, I suggest you check out this site and begin the process of educating yourself on these things: https://math.stackexchange.com/ques...h-the-same-long-hypotenuse-have-the-same-area

Side note to bystanders: I'm quite saddened that we've reached a point in our society where people are trying to argue basic math. I weep for my children and their future, and vow to strengthen my resolve to make certain they won't suffer a similar fate.
 
Everyone at Apple is calling it iPhone TEN. I doubt we'll see the iPhone XI next year and probably just iPhone 11.
Doesn't matter, still the letter X, so it looks like Moto X. Also, everyone not at Apple is calling it "ex" (though I have heard people call Xcode "Tencode").
[doublepost=1505495436][/doublepost]
Did you two fail elementary school? The area of a given space is a function of the length of the hypotenuse because the vertical and horitonzal sides depend on the hypotenuse (pythagorean theorem). The iPhone X screen measures in at 5.85 inches and mathematically has a larger surface area than the iPhone 6SSS (8) with or without the notch. You can't beat math.

It does not take a genius to know that a 5.85 inch screen is larger than a 5.5 inch screen.
This isn't true. Don't be rude if you aren't even going to Google fact-check a theorem you pulled out of nowhere or, better yet, try the basic length*width calculation yourself. This is probably reason manufacturers are making really long screens, to fool people with a longer diagonal measurement.
 
Last edited:
Doesn't matter, still the letter X, so it looks like Moto X. Also, everyone not at Apple is calling it "ex" (though I have heard people call Xcode "Tencode".

Well, I'll be calling it iPhone 10 because calling it X sounds gimmicky to me. Some may think it's cool, but for me it's just some bros trying to hype their product. I say it's iPhone 11 next year because Apple knows XI would be even dumber.
 
For the record, I am REALLY ANNOYED that I had to take time out of my day to illustrate this in Photoshop. Before you go around hurling insults by asking people if they failed elementary school, ask yourself a question: Am I qualified enough to call out someone who failed elementary school? The answer, by virtue of your comment, is a resounding no. I've prepared an extremely simple proof below.
View attachment 717961
TL;DR: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I expect I'll never hear from you again, because you can't beat math! However, instead of giving up on your entirely, I suggest you check out this site and begin the process of educating yourself on these things: https://math.stackexchange.com/ques...h-the-same-long-hypotenuse-have-the-same-area

Side note to bystanders: I'm quite saddened that we've reached a point in our society where people are trying to argue basic math. I weep for my children and their future, and vow to strengthen my resolve to make certain they won't suffer a similar fate.
You haven't demonstrated anything other than that surface area is a function of the hypotenuse which is exactly what I've said. It does not matter how wide the iPhone 6SSS+ is if the hypotenuse is shorter, which it is. The area of a given space is a function of the length of the hypotenuse because the vertical and horizontal sides depend on the hypotenuse (Pythagorean theorem). The iPhone X screen measures in at 5.85 inches on the vertical and mathematically has a larger surface area than the iPhone 6SSS (8) with or without the notch. You can't beat math.
[doublepost=1505533203][/doublepost]
Doesn't matter, still the letter X, so it looks like Moto X. Also, everyone not at Apple is calling it "ex" (though I have heard people call Xcode "Tencode").
[doublepost=1505495436][/doublepost]
This isn't true. Don't be rude if you aren't even going to Google fact-check a theorem you pulled out of nowhere or, better yet, try the basic length*width calculation yourself. This is probably reason manufacturers are making really long screens, to fool people with a longer diagonal measurement.
It is true. There is no such thing as a triangle with that less surface area than a triangle with a shorter hypotenuse. Basic math.
 
with iOS 11, we may to record screen iPhone without jailbreak or installing 3rd apps.
Activating record screen on your iPhone with iOS 11 and swipe up.

I think this one feature that coming into iPhone X too.
 
You haven't demonstrated anything other than that surface area is a function of the hypotenuse which is exactly what I've said. It does not matter how wide the iPhone 6SSS+ is if the hypotenuse is shorter, which it is. The area of a given space is a function of the length of the hypotenuse because the vertical and horizontal sides depend on the hypotenuse (Pythagorean theorem). The iPhone X screen measures in at 5.85 inches on the vertical and mathematically has a larger surface area than the iPhone 6SSS (8) with or without the notch. You can't beat math.
[doublepost=1505533203][/doublepost]
It is true. There is no such thing as a triangle with that less surface area than a triangle with a shorter hypotenuse. Basic math.
BASIC MATH? I take it that you didn't click on that link, did you? I tried to educate you, but you decided to remain ignorant. Here's the deal: You can't just "believe" that math is a certain way. This isn't like politics. This isn't like religion. You can't just think that the math does what you think it does. You can't just make up math and spout it around these forums. Not on my watch. I've slightly modified my proof. This new shape has a hypotenuse of ~9.2 and yet has an area of 18. The old shape has a hypotenuse of ~8 and an area of 28. This immediately invalidates what you've written above, emphasis mine. Explain your way out of this one! YOU CAN'T BEAT MATH, so stop trying to! You'll never win against math. You can't win. This isn't a normal internet debate. You're wrong because math is right.

macduke-math-2.jpg

[doublepost=1505575916][/doublepost]
This isn't true. Don't be rude if you aren't even going to Google fact-check a theorem you pulled out of nowhere or, better yet, try the basic length*width calculation yourself. This is probably reason manufacturers are making really long screens, to fool people with a longer diagonal measurement.
Can you even believe this?
 
No, not really, but I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.
It's one thing to be uneducated about something. It's quite another for someone to call out other people's correct work and attack them for not knowing "basic math". Then to double down on it—I just can't even. My brain hurts. I'm not even a math guy. I'm design/artistically minded first and foremost. But I went to school and learned math. I remember learning this in 7th grade geometry. I guess this is a good lesson for them to learn: If they're going to call people out on something, they need to make damn sure they're right before they do. Especially when it comes to something black and white like math. Jeez. If I'm ever unsure about something on the forums, I'll phrase it in a way that frames me as not an expert, and invite others to correct me if I'm wrong. Or if someone says I'm wrong, I'll look into it further, and if I am wrong, then I'll apologize and sometimes update my original post and thank them for the correction.
 
  • Like
Reactions: fairuz
BASIC MATH? I take it that you didn't click on that link, did you? I tried to educate you, but you decided to remain ignorant. Here's the deal: You can't just "believe" that math is a certain way. This isn't like politics. This isn't like religion. You can't just think that the math does what you think it does. You can't just make up math and spout it around these forums. Not on my watch. I've slightly modified my proof. This new shape has a hypotenuse of ~9.2 and yet has an area of 18. The old shape has a hypotenuse of ~8 and an area of 28. This immediately invalidates what you've written above, emphasis mine. Explain your way out of this one! YOU CAN'T BEAT MATH, so stop trying to! You'll never win against math. You can't win. This isn't a normal internet debate. You're wrong because math is right.

View attachment 718245
[doublepost=1505575916][/doublepost]
Can you even believe this?
Yes, basic math. c^2 = a^2 + b^2 and area = ab/2. So, picking a for example, a = sqrt(c^2 - b^2) and thus A = b*sqrt(c^2-b^2)/2. Area is a function of the hypotenuse with the caveat that b can take any value as long as b < c. This is why the iPhone X has a mathematically larger surface area. You can't beat math.
 
Last edited:
iPhone X is absolutely the best iPhone Apple ever made. It will be a foundation of all incoming year iPhones. Kudos for Apple for all hard works to make it happen.
I agree the future of Apple phones. But it's not ready for prime time. This will be a great phone in 2 years.
 
For the record, I am REALLY ANNOYED that I had to take time out of my day to illustrate this in Photoshop. Before you go around hurling insults by asking people if they failed elementary school, ask yourself a question: Am I qualified enough to call out someone who failed elementary school? The answer, by virtue of your comment, is a resounding no. I've prepared an extremely simple proof below.
View attachment 717961
TL;DR: You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I expect I'll never hear from you again, because you can't beat math! However, instead of giving up on your entirely, I suggest you check out this site and begin the process of educating yourself on these things: https://math.stackexchange.com/ques...h-the-same-long-hypotenuse-have-the-same-area

Side note to bystanders: I'm quite saddened that we've reached a point in our society where people are trying to argue basic math. I weep for my children and their future, and vow to strengthen my resolve to make certain they won't suffer a similar fate.


The true size of the iPhone x screen is 4.95"

http://m.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_x_screen_how_big_is_it_really-news-27265.php
 
Yes, basic math. c^2 = a^2 + b^2 and area = ab/2. So, picking a for example, a = sqrt(c^2 - b^2) and thus A = b*sqrt(c^2-b^2)/2. Area is a function of the hypotenuse with the caveat that b can take any value as long as b < c. This is why the iPhone X has a mathematically larger surface area. You can't beat math.
So you're just going to keep making adjustments to your arguments until you're right and are basically in agreement with me? Not on my watch. You clearly said that you can't have a friggin triangle with less surface area than a triangle with a shorter hypotenuse. YOU SAID THAT. Inelegantly, I might add:

There is no such thing as a triangle with that less surface area than a triangle with a shorter hypotenuse. Basic math.

YOU said that.

YOU.

I proved that wrong. So did others. You're wrong, full stop.

Don't weasel your way out of it now. If you look at my original post, post #62 in this thread, which is the one you quoted to attack me, I clearly stated that the iPhone X has a larger surface area, but it's smaller once you subtract out the notches and round corners. My beef with you has been that you came after me attacking me in post #105, asking if I failed elementary school, when you are the one who doesn't even know what you're talking about.

There are two arguments here. Let's separate them so you don't get confused:

Argument 1: There is no such thing as a triangle with that less surface area than a triangle with a shorter hypotenuse. Basic math.

This argument has been proven false using basic math.

Argument 2: The iPhone X screen measures in at 5.85 inches and mathematically has a larger surface area than the iPhone 6SSS (8) with or without the notch. You can't beat math.

As I stated with my math in post #62, linked above, I agree that the surface area is higher without the notch. But with the notch and rounded corners, the surface area drops below the iPhone Plus. I think this guy shows it well in his illustration. Apple has posted UI guidelines for the iPhone X with point dimensions. These can be converted into physical, real-world dimensions. They have exactly measurements for the round corners and notch. Link: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...until-next-year.2067807/page-10#post-25048960

A similar story is over here, showing how the UI size is smaller overall. Not exactly the same, but similar, and shows that you'll get less content on the iPhone X screen than the iPhone Plus: https://www.phonearena.com/news/App...an-the-5.5-inch-iPhone-8-Plus-display_id98116

Give it a rest, you can't beat math! I am done speaking with you.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.