6 Plus is the most unrefined new iPhone I have ever used

[rGiskard]

And putting an iPhone in your pocket isn't dangerous....

What about all the people who have had 6 pluses bend in their pockets? There are numerous reports right here in these forums. I know you know about them because you're always right there attacking the poor guys who suffered bent iPhones!

Your Holy Crusade against thin phones are becoming ridiculous

You must have me confused with someone else because I don't have a problem with the 6 Plus's thinness. I would rather it were thick enough so that the camera lens didn't protrude, thus improving battery capacity and making easier to hold, but it's not that big a deal to me. Testing by AnandTech and others show that it has killer battery life relative to other smartphones and the battery is easy to replace, so I'm satisfied enough with Apple's design choice.

The structural weakness is due to a design flaw and is not directly related to the thickness of the phone. I've worked with aluminum some and with the right design it is an amazingly rigid material.

 

[Max(IT)]

What about all the people who have had 6 pluses bend in their pockets? There are numerous reports right here in these forums. I know you know about them because you're always right there attacking the poor guys who suffered bent iPhones!



You must have me confused with someone else because I don't have a problem with the 6 Plus's thinness. I would rather it were thick enough so that the camera lens didn't protrude, thus improving battery capacity and making easier to hold, but it's not that big a deal to me. Testing by AnandTech and others show that it has killer battery life relative to other smartphones and the battery is easy to replace, so I'm satisfied enough with Apple's design choice.

The structural weakness is due to a design flaw and is not directly related to the thickness of the phone. I've worked with aluminum some and with the right design it is an amazingly rigid material.

Until proven false, there is no structural weakness on the iPhone 6.
And there aren't poor people with iPhone bent spontaneously in their pocket. There are just people which incidentally bent their iPhone without realizing it, and a day, taking it from their pocket, they finally realized that and screamed "my iPhone bent in my front pocket!".
And unfortunately there are a few people who realized they screwed up sitting on their phone, but the claimed it was Apple fault nevertheless, to have their iPhone changed without charge.

 

[jettrue]

I'm sick to death of the the keyboard .... i'm using swiftkey and it either:
1. Doesn't show up in an app / messages / spotlight at all
2. Shows up but doesn't accept input
3. Accepts input but only tap not 'flow'
4. Accepts input in any means but doesn't auto-correct
5. Reverts to default keyboard (despite being only keyboard in the settings)

Same keyboard issues here, drives me nuts.

 

[rGiskard]

Until proven false, there is no structural weakness on the iPhone 6.
And there aren't poor people with iPhone bent spontaneously in their pocket. There are just people which incidentally bent their iPhone without realizing it, and a day, taking it from their pocket, they finally realized that and screamed "my iPhone bent in my front pocket!".
And unfortunately there are a few people who realized they screwed up sitting on their phone, but the claimed it was Apple fault nevertheless, to have their iPhone changed without charge.

What, are you living under a rock? It was proven weeks ago that the 6+ has a design flaw. What we do not yet know is the seriousness of the flaw. It will likely be a year or so before we can determine how many 6 pluses are affected. Of course it would be a lot easier to get data without you and your team of rude deniers going around calling everyone with a bent iPhone a liar.

And unfortunately there are a few people who realized they screwed up sitting on their phone, but the claimed it was Apple fault nevertheless, to have their iPhone changed without charge.

You have absolutely no evidence for the above statement.

 

[KdParker]

What, are you living under a rock? It was proven weeks ago that the 6+ has a design flaw. What we do not yet know is the seriousness of the flaw. It will likely be a year or so before we can determine how many 6 pluses are affected. Of course it would be a lot easier to get data without you and your team of rude deniers going around calling everyone with a bent iPhone a liar.



You have absolutely no evidence for the above statement.

You don't have any evidence either.

And nothing was 'proven' regarding a design flaw, just some sensational videos and claims that were not verified or testable.

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Yeah but if it's like this on day 1, what's going to happen with iOS 9 or 10. I payed $800 for this, unacceptable

Not sure what issues you seeing. My six + is working flawlessly.

 

[rGiskard]

You don't have any evidence either.

And nothing was 'proven' regarding a design flaw, just some sensational videos and claims that were not verified or testable.

We have dozens of reports of bent 6 pluses.

"Testable"? We have CR's tests which prove that the 6+ has significantly less structural integrity than the 5S or Samsung's high end offerings.

Unverified claims? So you're calling everyone with a bent 6+ a liar? That's outrageously rude, man. I dare you to do that to someone in person. Better duck if you try...

 

[Robert1-1]

http://blog.gsmarena.com/redditor-explains-aluminum-iphone-6-bends-plastic-note-3-doesnt/

You don't have any evidence either.

And nothing was 'proven' regarding a design flaw, just some sensational videos and claims that were not verified or testable.

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Not sure what issues you seeing. My six + is working flawlessly.

 

[ghsDUDE]

It acts up in the native Music App. I notice while scrolling through Artist it stutters.

 

[JPIndustrie]

When friends ask I always preface by saying its a little laggy and not 100% perfect but I do mention how much the bigger screen helps, I absolutely love my 6 plus. As the software moves forward you will see an even better experience on the plus than any other iphone before it.

 

[Max(IT)]

What, are you living under a rock? It was proven weeks ago that the 6+ has a design flaw. What we do not yet know is the seriousness of the flaw. It will likely be a year or so before we can determine how many 6 pluses are affected. Of course it would be a lot easier to get data without you and your team of rude deniers going around calling everyone with a bent iPhone a liar.



You have absolutely no evidence for the above statement.

Proven by whom?
The only scientific controlled test performed said quite the opposite: the iPhone 6 design is absolutely fine for normal usage.
Said that, I'm not going to feed the troll....

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You don't have any evidence either.

And nothing was 'proven' regarding a design flaw, just some sensational videos and claims that were not verified or testable.

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Not sure what issues you seeing. My six + is working flawlessly.

Correct.
Sensational videos of idiotic people intentionally trying to destroy an iPhone by applying full force on the edges while pushing forward with both thumbs on a single spot where the frame is thinner.

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http://blog.gsmarena.com/redditor-explains-aluminum-iphone-6-bends-plastic-note-3-doesnt/

From the article you linked:

Should this be a cause for concern, though? Considering how few actual people have reported the problem, I would say no. Not unless you put your phone in your pocket and do yoga. It takes a lot of force for the phone to bend like that and merely having it in your pocket won’t bend it like that.


Even a known biased websites like GSMArena (aka SamsungArena..) said that....

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We have dozens of reports of bent 6 pluses.

"Testable"? We have CR's tests which prove that the 6+ has significantly less structural integrity than the 5S or Samsung's high end offerings.

Unverified claims? So you're calling everyone with a bent 6+ a liar? That's outrageously rude, man. I dare you to do that to someone in person. Better duck if you try...

Unverified claims for sure.
Dozens? Not even A dozen, over hundreds of iPhone 6 users on the forum, and over more than 14 MILLIONS of units sold.

These are CR conclusions you are trying hard to modify to fulfill your agenda:

All the phones we tested showed themselves to be pretty tough. The iPhone 6 Plus, the more robust of the new iPhones in our testing, started to deform when we reached 90 pounds of force, and came apart with 110 pounds of force. With those numbers, it slightly outperformed the HTC One (which is largely regarded as a sturdy, solid phone), as well as the smaller iPhone 6, yet underperformed some other smart phones.
...
While nothing is (evidently) indestructible, we expect that any of these phones should stand up to typical use.

Those conclusions are totally completely definitely DIFFERENT from the BS you are keep spreading on this forum.
They aren't speaking about less structural integrity. They aren't speaking about flaws.
They are just speaking about pretty tough phones, iPhone 6 included.
You are purposely modifying reality to bash Apple.
Period.

 

[rGiskard]

Those conclusions are totally completely definitely DIFFERENT from the BS you are keep spreading on this forum.
They aren't speaking about less structural integrity. They aren't speaking about flaws.
They are just speaking about pretty tough phones, iPhone 6 included.
You are purposely modifying reality to bash Apple.
Period.

Look at the results, the 5S and current Samsungs are 150% stronger than the current iPhones. In other words, less structural integrity. So we have a phone with significantly less structural integrity and reports of it bending in the wild. As is often the case, CR's conclusions are dubious, but they were transparent enough to show their testing and let us think for ourselves.

Anyways, you would certainly know a lot about modifying reality. You need to stop trolling the forums with your Apple apologism.

 

[KdParker]

We have dozens of reports of bent 6 pluses.

"Testable"? We have CR's tests which prove that the 6+ has significantly less structural integrity than the 5S or Samsung's high end offerings.

Unverified claims? So you're calling everyone with a bent 6+ a liar? That's outrageously rude, man. I dare you to do that to someone in person. Better duck if you try...

Percentages. The shear number of phones sold compared to these 'reported' issues don't equal a structural design flaw as you are claiming.

CR also concluded that iPhone doesn't have a stuctural design flaw.

Yes I would challenge any one that claimed tha phone just magically bent.

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Not proof just more apple bashing with an agenda.

 

[Max(IT)]

Look at the results, the 5S and current Samsungs are 150% stronger than the current iPhones. In other words, less structural integrity. So we have a phone with significantly less structural integrity and reports of it bending in the wild. As is often the case, CR's conclusions are dubious, but they were transparent enough to show their testing and let us think for ourselves.

Anyways, you would certainly know a lot about modifying reality. You need to stop trolling the forums with your Apple apologism.

I don't care about who is stronger. We are not in a race for the strongest phone.
The Note 3, the ONLY Samsung phone tested, is ugly. I don't care if it's stronger.
Every phone tested reportedly are strong ENOUGH, but you keep ignoring that to fulfill your agenda.
CR conclusions are dubious because you said so?
You are trolling the forum. It's quite evident.
You are bashing Apple on any single issue.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Look at the results, the 5S and current Samsungs are 150% stronger than the current iPhones. In other words, less structural integrity. So we have a phone with significantly less structural integrity and reports of it bending in the wild. As is often the case, CR's conclusions are dubious, but they were transparent enough to show their testing and let us think for ourselves.

Anyways, you would certainly know a lot about modifying reality. You need to stop trolling the forums with your Apple apologism.

Kinda the opposite, my man. You're the one pressing "facts" that aren't really facts.

 

[rGiskard]

I don't care about who is stronger. We are not in a race for the strongest phone.
The Note 3, the ONLY Samsung phone tested, is ugly. I don't care if it's stronger.
Every phone tested reportedly are strong ENOUGH, but you keep ignoring that to fulfill your agenda.
CR conclusions are dubious because you said so?
You are trolling the forum. It's quite evident.
You are bashing Apple on any single issue.

The CR results showing the iPhone being structurally weaker matter because of the real world bending reports. Oh that's right, you think all those reports are from liars. You believe Apple are perfect and so you attack anyone who threatens your belief. Sort of like a cult member...

So there's nothing to discuss with you.

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Kinda the opposite, my man. You're the one pressing "facts" that aren't really facts.

So you didn't read the CR report?

Interesting how there's a team here who attack anyone who mentions the bendy 6+. They're always at work and are impervious to facts or reasoning. Every bend is a lie. Test results have no meaning. There's an easy explanation. You guys are more transparent than you think, and you're not doing Apple any favors.

 

[Max(IT)]

The CR results showing the iPhone being structurally weaker matter because of the real world bending reports. Oh that's right, you think all those reports are from liars. You believe Apple are perfect and so you attack anyone who threatens your belief. Sort of like a cult member...

So there's nothing to discuss with you.

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So you didn't read the CR report?

Interesting how there's a team here who attack anyone who mentions the bendy 6+. They're always at work and are impervious to facts or reasoning. Every bend is a lie. Test results have no meaning. There's an easy explanation. You guys are more transparent than you think, and you're not doing Apple any favors.

Again these are CR conclusions you are trying hard to modify to fulfill your agenda:

All the phones we tested showed themselves to be pretty tough. The iPhone 6 Plus, the more robust of the new iPhones in our testing, started to deform when we reached 90 pounds of force, and came apart with 110 pounds of force. With those numbers, it slightly outperformed the HTC One (which is largely regarded as a sturdy, solid phone), as well as the smaller iPhone 6, yet underperformed some other smart phones.
...
While nothing is (evidently) indestructible, we expect that any of these phones should stand up to typical use.

There is absolutely NOTHING about structural weakness if not in your mind.
You are the one who didn't read the CR report.

 

[rGiskard]

Percentages. The shear number of phones sold compared to these 'reported' issues don't equal a structural design flaw as you are claiming.

CR also concluded that iPhone doesn't have a stuctural design flaw.

Yes I would challenge any one that claimed tha phone just magically bent.

Reported issues aren't necessarily indicative of the problem yet. We won't know the severity for a long time, I suspect.

So you'll challenge anyone who says their iPhone 6+ bent? At least you admit your bias.

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There is absolutely NOTHING about structural weakness if not in your mind.

I read the CR report with an eye towards explaining why 6 pluses are bending in the wild.

You deny they bend in the wild. So there's nothing to discuss, is there? If you won't accept reality, then we're just pissing into the wind.

Also, I have no respect for anyone who uses a team to enforce their POV. That's a tactic of bullies. All you do is recite the same talking points in every post. It's a form of trolling.

 

[Archer1440]

I attribute all of the many minor glitches with my 6 plus to the current iOS iteration and am confident that it will be sorted out soon.

Despite a lengthy list of minor glitches, after two weeks of hard use I'm delighted with the device. I'm also quite impressed with the durability.

My personal experience has me believing very strongly that the phone cannot bend without outright abuse.

I'm also impressed that Apple delivered the device (space grey 128) almost three weeks sooner than originally indicated.

 

[Max(IT)]

Reported issues aren't necessarily indicative of the problem yet. We won't know the severity for a long time, I suspect.

So you'll challenge anyone who says their iPhone 6+ bent? At least you admit your bias.

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I read the CR report with an eye towards explaining why 6 pluses are bending in the wild.

You deny they bend in the wild. So there's nothing to discuss, is there? If you won't accept reality, then we're just pissing into the wind.

Also, I have no respect for anyone who uses a team to enforce their POV. That's a tactic of bullies. All you do is recite the same talking points in every post. It's a form of trolling.

Do you want me to show the forum every single post where you are bashing Apple?
I have better ways for waste my time, and everyone can do a little search.
There are not self bending iPhone "in the wild". There are people inadvertently bending it.... And there are probably some defective units from manufacturing, like it was for previous generation iPhones.
But none is bending by keeping in your pocket.

 

[rGiskard]

Do you want me to show the forum every single post where you are bashing Apple?
I have better ways for waste my time, and everyone can do a little search.
There are not self bending iPhone "in the wild". There are people inadvertently bending it.... And there are probably some defective units from manufacturing, like it was for previous generation iPhones.
But none is bending by keeping in your pocket.

Yes, iPhones do bend in the wild. If you bothered to search the forums for bent iPhones you would find all the evidence you need. Oh wait, you already do search the forums for bent iPhones - so you can attack and denigrate anyone who has one or points out the problem, LOL! Oh and you call people liars in almost every other post.

But none is bending by keeping in your pocket.

At least two commenters here have reported 6 pluses bending in their front pocket. You dismiss them as liars.

Do you want me to show the forum every single post where you are bashing Apple?

Stalking behavior alert! LOL, you're a hoot, man! Do I need to start watching out for you in the bushes behind my house?

 

[mightyjabba]

I'm not sure we really need another bending thread. I thought this thread was more about the rough edges that we've noticed in the Plus's software and usability.

 

[darrenf1]

My 6+ lags. It is annoying, and I hope it is software related.

 

[teabonesteak]

wife has the 6 and I have the 6 plus... both lag. still on OOB iOS so I hope upgrade will fix. mostly happens when scrolling photos and Safari.

 

[Surf Monkey]

So you didn't read the CR report?

Interesting how there's a team here who attack anyone who mentions the bendy 6+. They're always at work and are impervious to facts or reasoning. Every bend is a lie. Test results have no meaning. There's an easy explanation. You guys are more transparent than you think, and you're not doing Apple any favors.

If you're going to post this nonsense you could at least try to be original. This whole bend issue is done to death. There are better things to expend energy on.

 

[deviant]

wife has the 6 and I have the 6 plus... both lag. still on OOB iOS so I hope upgrade will fix. mostly happens when scrolling photos and Safari.

mine and my finane's don't. 6 pluses.