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Cook needs to learn how to lie and not open his mouth. That bit about Chinese manufacturing was incredible - does he really believe people don't know why the products are put together in China? Love the table cloths covering up their new secret products. Get real, they don't have anything NEW coming in 2016.
 
I think many are aware that the corporate tax rate is 40% in the US, that is not new, its been in existence since the second world war.

And many deductions have been introduced over the years to help 'foster' certain industrial growth. The problem is that now, the tax code is Swiss cheese. Many corporations not only pay no taxes, they actually get money back! And not three or four figure checks, but seven and eight figure checks, and shuffling money around is largely legal. The 'military industrial complex' is practically contracted with the Treasury Department to print more money.

Corporate inversions are all the rage now too. Burger King, Pfizer, etc...

I remember an expose about the import/export game that many corporations play. Deliberately overvaluing products going one way, and devaluing them going the other JUST TO CHEAT ON THEIR TAXES!

America isn't a democracy any longer. It's quickly becoming a vacation spot for skeesy corporate tax and regulation cheats!

Lobbyists control this country now. Look at the MPAA!

/rant

Remember when paying your taxes was a mark of a true patriot? Now having a personal jet is?o_O:confused:

And what are they doing with all of this ill gotten cash? BUYING OUR ELECTIONS to get more cash!

It's so bad now that foreign money could actually BUY AN ELECTION, and no one seems to care, as long as the cash shower keeps running!
 
Cook needs to learn how to lie and not open his mouth. That bit about Chinese manufacturing was incredible - does he really believe people don't know why the products are put together in China? Love the table cloths covering up their new secret products. Get real, they don't have anything NEW coming in 2016.
Depends how you define "new". And who says everything under those cloths are 2016 products?
 
12-inch MacBook is a joke. New iMacs are expensive jokes (glued!!!). Mac Pro is a joke squared. iWatch??? Ahah. iOS 7+ / Yosemite+ are PURE GARBAGE. Hope all the bad possible to these marketing drones. They're destroying my preferred company :(
 
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All I know is watching that it didn't seem very apparent why OIS can't be included in the 4.7" iPhone.

Because they need to have something different to convince people to buy the more expensive model. Honestly I don't see any reason why they couldn't fit it into the 6S as well.
 
"This is still Steve's company. It was born that way, it's still that way. And so his spirit I think will always be the DNA of this company."
No, because we would have heard about Steve's head exploding at some of the screwups that have happened in the past few years.

I'm starting to wonder how bad it is using Windows, or jail breaking. Given that the first time I jail broke an iPhone, I bricked it, that says a bit about the frustration...

The G4 Cube, overheating PowerBooks, those iPod backs that scratched at the slightest touch, mobile me, and antenna gate all launched under Jobs. So did most of Apple's greatest successes, but I'm sure Jobs would have been just as furious with Maps as he was with mobile me.

I don't think Apple has gone downhill. I think the expectations have gone up. Maybe Jobs could have met those expectations better than Cook; there's no knowing about that. But I haven't seen a significant dip in quality in the products I've used.
 
"This is still Steve's company. It was born that way, it's still that way. And so his spirit I think will always be the DNA of this company."
No, because we would have heard about Steve's head exploding at some of the screwups that have happened in the past few years.

I'm starting to wonder how bad it is using Windows, or jail breaking. Given that the first time I jail broke an iPhone, I bricked it, that says a bit about the frustration...

I'm using Windows 10 daily as my main desktop because I need to for work AND IT'S BAD.

After their last god damn silent "upgrades".
You have no clue what they're changing.

I couldn't get Wifi do connected for 2 weeks straight more than 30 minutes at a time
That same upgrade also wiped all my settings everywhere, including privacy, security, Apps, etc.
Cortana, the big upgrade for that release, has not worked properly no matter what I did (I'm a computer engineer...),
not only that, since desktop search and Cortana are linked, the search box and even the main menu were slug slow.
A few drivers that worked for 5-6 years, now wonky.
Speech packs upgrades don't work unless you remove yourself off metered internet, which I had set myself to prevent automated upgrades. No manual workarounds!
And on and on and on...

That's just the November upgrade.

So many more privacy givaways in 10.
So things don't work properly unless you're signed in.

It is relentless... There is a reason why Windows 7 (or worse case 8.1)
is were most people are still parked

I also use Apple products: Ipad pro, Ipad, Iphone, etc.

There is nothing even close to that at Apple, it's not even in the same ballpark.

The last big f-up was the near bricking of old Iphones in IOS 2 and 4; that occured on Jobs watch BTW.
 
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Depends how you define "new". And who says everything under those cloths are 2016 products?

I worked for years selling home audio products in the mid-80's.

It's almost the same then as it is now.

The companies would put out a 'new model' that had the same specs as the old model, with the knobs in a different location, or they would, as one vendor did, introduce a 'radical new color' (white) and change nothing besides the color, and call it a 'New Model!!!'.

I remember one kid coming in to drool over the new stuff. He had just bought a whole new setup earlier that year, and he already wanted the 'Newest, Best, Brightest' which wasn't any functionally different than what he had. I finally told him that after wrangling to get financing for his 'New and improved' equipment purchase. Sorter end of story: He left, came back and talked to the manager, manager came to talk to me: "He's an idiot. You and I know there is no change in the stuff he has and the stuff he wants. People like him are what drives the industry and I shouldn't tell people 'our little secret'." As the poor kid mortgages his future for a handful of beans...
 
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I'm using Windows 10 daily as my main desktop because I need to for work AND IT'S BAD.

After their last god damn silent "upgrades".
You have no clue what they're changing.

I couldn't get Wifi do connected for 2 weeks straight more than 30 minutes at a time
That same upgrade also wiped all my settings everywhere, including privacy, security, Apps, etc.
Cortana, the big upgrade for that release, has not worked properly no matter what I did (I'm a computer engineer...),
not only that, since desktop search and Cortana are linked, the search box and even the main menu were slug slow.
A few drivers that worked for 5-6 years, now wonky.
Speech packs upgrades don't work unless you remove yourself off metered internet, which I had set myself to prevent automated upgrades. No manual workarounds!
And on and on and on...

That's just the November upgrade.

So many more privacy givaways in 10.
So things don't work properly unless you're signed in.

It is relentless... There is a reason why Windows 7 (or worse case 8.1)
is were most people are still parked

I also use Apple products: Ipad pro, Ipad, Iphone, etc.

There is nothing even close to that at Apple, it's not even in the same ballpark.

The last big f-up was the near bricking of old Iphones in IOS 2 and 4; that occured on Jobs watch BTW.

I've got 10 running on a high core i7 with 32G of ram, and it seems to be running decent, but using a Lamborghini to get the groceries would be 'decent' too... :) Without passengers...o_O
 
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http://www.apple.com/diversity/
 
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I watched it and the entire interview was light on the fizz. It was disappointing. Rose continually repeated quotes by Cook and Ive - "You mean to say that its half the diameter of a human hair?" - "You mean, no one is allowed in this room?" - "You mean to say you use prototypes of different phones before you select the one that's right".

And other earth shattering quotes like this...
Yeah, I noticed that too, Rose just slowly and dramatically repeating whatever the person he's interviewing just said. It's like he thinks it's some interviewing Jedi mind trick that will cause them to reveal further information, but it's embarrassing.
 
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Most of the things that get held against Apple in this interview are generally true about most of the other larger similar companies (Foxxconn making parts, dealing with avoiding the Corporate Taxes, etc...) and I think Apple gets singled out because it makes for a story people will read or at least click on.
 
One of the reasons my mum got an iPhone was because she kept getting these Android phones (high end ones as well) that used to keep breaking and I could never solve the problem. I told her to get an iPhone and things won't go wrong, and if they do then I can help her, and if I can't the Apple Store can.
My friend got a Galaxy S5 last year, within a month his battery bulged and the Samsung store refused to replace it for him. It cost him £40 for a new battery.
If ALL her Android phones keep breaking, seems obvious what the common factor is.
 
If ALL her Android phones keep breaking, seems obvious what the common factor is.
From buggy software to various other things, battery issues etc. If she was handling them in the wrong manner then I would agree, but she does nothing on them aside from playing Candy crush and calling people.
 
...Technically this is quite an unfortunate quote, because you could misread it as "you just need an iPhone really, skip all our other products".
Technically, anything longer than a sentence fragment, from anyone's mouth, leaves room for out-of-context interpretation. Perhaps its best that none of us speak (or write).

Is it unfortunate that he chose to make his point with a paragraph? I'd say no; it was sufficiently well-constructed that 60 Minutes gave us the entire paragraph. Even after losing Charlie Rose's question and Phil Schiller's first two sentences, the statement still flies. Here it is, in its entirety:
Charlie Rose: Is there danger of one product cannibalizing the other product?

Phil Schiller: It's not a danger, it's almost by design. You need each of these products to try to fight for their space, their time with you. The iPhone has to become so great that you don't know why you want an iPad. The iPad has to be so great that you don't know why you why you want a notebook. The notebook has to be so great, you don't know why you want a desktop. Each one's job is to compete with the other ones.

It seems to be a well-practiced statement. I can imagine Phil using it whenever a product team tries to defend its turf.

Sure, "A good offense is the best defense," manages to succinctly encapsulate the concept, but that's probably too cliched to be effective. And as memes go... One "sage" at Answers.com claimed that Clausewitz (1780-1831) quoted Chairman Mao (1893-1976). Clearly, Billy Pilgrim wasn't the only person thoroughly unstuck in time. Vince Lombardi had his crack at the statement, and WikiPedia dragged out a variant from George Washington. It could easily have been said by Alexander the Great or Genghis Khan (though not in English).
 
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