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As long as Tim Cook keeps insisting that Apple is Steve's company, he should treat it as such.
And he is by following Steve's wish which was for Tim to do what he thinks is right. Steve chose Tim to run the company. Are you saying Steve was wrong?

Apple did plenty of PR pieces while Steve Jobs was at the helm. Maybe it wasn't 60 Minutes inside 1 infinite loop but so what. It was still PR for Apple. Here's some examples.

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And he is by following Steve's wish which was for Tim to do what he thinks is right. Steve chose Tim to run the company. Are you saying Steve was wrong?
Sadly, that was Steve's biggest mistake. He should've told him the opposite because what usually happens to Apple when Steve doesn't call the shots? Tim Cook seems to be almost actively defying everything Steve Jobs would do. Not out of spite but because Cook only cares about money. Besides, wanna take a guess at how much time Cook spends hanging out in Jony's design studio? I'll give you a hint: not nearly as much as Jobs and that's an issue because he was heavily involved and hands on with the creative and development which Cook clearly isn't.
 
Cook needs to learn how to lie and not open his mouth. That bit about Chinese manufacturing was incredible - does he really believe people don't know why the products are put together in China? Love the table cloths covering up their new secret products. Get real, they don't have anything NEW coming in 2016.

Before insinuating Tim Cook is a liar, one who knows infinitely more about huge volume contract manufacturing infrastructure, perhaps you could first state your credentials on the subject, especially if this is your specialty. I suspect you won't, because if this was your area of expertise, you would know that the US does not have the quick turnaround contract manufacturing infrastructure in place to handle Apple's manufacturing requirements. It simply does not exist. Not even close.
 
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I still seen to think Tim is walking on shaky ground..

He keeps insisting "they work with law enforcement" .. but they also don't want to "don't want to provide backdoor's to help law enforcement"

Kind of a catch 22.

I was amazed where Johnny was going to sit before Campus was even built :D How the hell did he know that..

Tim said he knew what he was doing by keeping the money outside U.S as "wrong" but he also doesn't want to pay to bring it back either... umm

What a clever cookie he is..
 
And he is by following Steve's wish which was for Tim to do what he thinks is right. Steve chose Tim to run the company. Are you saying Steve was wrong?

Apple did plenty of PR pieces while Steve Jobs was at the helm. Maybe it wasn't 60 Minutes inside 1 infinite loop but so what. It was still PR for Apple. Here's some examples.

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At least with these Steve Jobs pieces, they were more about the products and helped generate the excitement surrounding them. With Cook and Co., it's more about saving face and insisting that everything is just as great at Apple as it was under Jobs. The difference is, Jobs delivered and all Cook does is talk.
 
At least someone on the executive team still uses a Mac. :D

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At least with these Steve Jobs pieces, they were more about the products and helped generate the excitement surrounding them. With Cook and Co., it's more about saving face and insisting that everything is just as great at Apple as it was under Jobs. The difference is, Jobs delivered and all Cook does is talk.

Right...Apple is selling product than it ever has. Clearly Cook doesn't know how to deliver anything. There's nothing different about the PR now and under Jobs except that you don't care for Cook and don't think he's worthy of shining Jobs shoes.
 
And he is by following Steve's wish which was for Tim to do what he thinks is right. Steve chose Tim to run the company. Are you saying Steve was wrong?

Apple did plenty of PR pieces while Steve Jobs was at the helm. Maybe it wasn't 60 Minutes inside 1 infinite loop but so what. It was still PR for Apple. Here's some examples.

Thanks for the pics. Yes, there was a lot of PR with Steve on covers and his ego whipped out hard and mighty. However, one rule I was told is that press cameras on the campus was a big no-no. All those pics you bring up were done in studios off the Apple campus.

Steve was very concerned about press running loose on the campus or worst, getting a lay of the place and attempting to enter after the official visit was complete. That is an old investigative reporter trick where you catch the subject with their PR face off. Was told that many reporters were thrown off the campus and given a trespassing notice by legal several times.

My take on the 60 Minutes piece is that it was more a publicity stunt to "show some of the magic" as Walt Disney did with his weekly TV show. Thus, it increases the public image, possibly stock price and, these days, a social media back end survey gaining crowd reaction.
 
I'm using Windows 10 daily as my main desktop because I need to for work AND IT'S BAD.

After their last god damn silent "upgrades".
You have no clue what they're changing.

I couldn't get Wifi do connected for 2 weeks straight more than 30 minutes at a time
That same upgrade also wiped all my settings everywhere, including privacy, security, Apps, etc.
Cortana, the big upgrade for that release, has not worked properly no matter what I did (I'm a computer engineer...),
not only that, since desktop search and Cortana are linked, the search box and even the main menu were slug slow.
A few drivers that worked for 5-6 years, now wonky.
Speech packs upgrades don't work unless you remove yourself off metered internet, which I had set myself to prevent automated upgrades. No manual workarounds!
And on and on and on...

That's just the November upgrade.

So many more privacy givaways in 10.
So things don't work properly unless you're signed in.

It is relentless... There is a reason why Windows 7 (or worse case 8.1)
is were most people are still parked

I also use Apple products: Ipad pro, Ipad, Iphone, etc.

There is nothing even close to that at Apple, it's not even in the same ballpark.

The last big f-up was the near bricking of old Iphones in IOS 2 and 4; that occured on Jobs watch BTW.
I use Windows 10 on my personal Lenovo Yoga, and I like it. I don't love it, but I like it. Once I got rid of the bloatware that Lenovo stuffed on it, and installed vanilla Win10 and got rid of the stupid tiles, it's a good system. I really llike my rMBP, too. But more and more, my Yoga is becoming my go-to system. I will say, though, that I don't know how people who really don't understand computers can live with Win10, or any Windows OS. Windows has its quirks, and if you don't know how to dig into them to get things to work the way they should, you're lost. Once you've gotten through all that, Win10 is a nice system. But it takes a while to get there. I wouldn't say the same thing about OSX. That's a nice system from the get go, but even OSX has its quirks, which can take a while to get through. But Win10 isn't bad by any stretch. It's Windows, which implies some wrinkles. I guess it all amounts to what you're used to. I'm sorry that you've had these issues with it, but that wasn't my experience.
 
So many 'little' changes, and they are adding up. Farking iTunes is a farking MESS!!! I've got podcasts that are all sideways because 'something happened'. I actually wiped my entire iTunes database on one system, while on a call with Apple Support, and it was STILL sideways after being rebuilt! Rebuilt, not restored...

Agree there. iTunes and the Music and Podcasts apps on iOS are bad. But they were bad before Steve died. Many people hated iTunes from the minute was released.

And like I said with Steve there were blunders. Look back and see how Bad OS X 10.0 was - it didn't have CD burning or DVD reading in it on release.... And that was with Steve at the help.

My iPad is S--L--O--W, my iPhone 6+ is S--L--O--W, my Mac Pro just goes 'out to lunch' at times for no reason that I'm aware. Like just this morning, I was trying to look at a few emails, and I clicked one, the preview popped up, clicked another one, and nothing. Mail was 'out to lunch. I waited a minute, or so, and still no movement. That is a new 'feature'. Had to force quit it. Occasionally, typing in Mail, or Firefox just lags handfuls of seconds on all my Macs...

Can't see I see that on my iPhone 6+ or my 2013 era iMac 27" or my 2015 Macbook Air. Firefox has been sicking in the latest versions so your issues may be there. But with Safari it's fine and I don't get slowdowns. My iPhone is light years faster than the Galaxy S5 it replaced.

On the iMac, I have a 1TB SSD, 8GB RAM and just the other week I was in training ran 3x Linux VM's (512MB ea) in VMware, a training course, PDF Pen Pro (spiked @ 7GB usage - it's a memory hog), and the iMac performed flawlessly, even when swapping to disk.
 
Before insinuating Tim Cook is a liar, one who knows infinitely more about huge volume contract manufacturing infrastructure, perhaps you could first state your credentials on the subject, especially if this is your specialty. I suspect you won't, because if this was your area of expertise, you would know that the US does not have the quick turnaround contract manufacturing infrastructure in place to handle Apple's manufacturing requirements. It simply does not exist. Not even close.

This. Everyone who says Apple only manufacturers in China because of low wages has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Wages is only the surface. There is absolutely no argument that China's labour and manufacturing process (beginning to end) is just flat out better than that of North America (Canada, United States). I'm not talking about the technology involved because that's readily available to everyone. The efficiency and productivity of manufacturing in China is something North America can only dream about.

Having experience with working with factories in China, the company I worked for was looking to build an amplifier and speakers. We sent over the design and specs and within days, we were given a mockup and a full working prototype within a week or two. The same work if it were to be done here would have taken at least a month and possibly more.

There should be no surprise about this. I'm sure North Americans can see the deficiencies in labour everyday. China was just awarded a contract to build a $5 billion dollar high-speed rail line in Indonesia (150 km/93.2 mi) to be completed in 3 years (2016-2019). Here in Toronto, there is currently a 19km (11.8 mi) rail line being built that started in 2014 and expected to be completed in 2020. There is absolutely no comparison. It takes the Chinese 3 years to build a 93.2 mile-long rail in 3 years, but takes labour workers here 6 years to fully complete 11.8 miles. Extremely laughable and people want to complain why Apple doesn't take advantage of the labour here?
 
Agree there. iTunes and the Music and Podcasts apps on iOS are bad. But they were bad before Steve died. Many people hated iTunes from the minute was released.

While iTunes has deteriorated over the years, the music app on iOS was always good up until iOS 7 came out and was further ruined by iOS 8.4
 
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I'm using Windows 10 daily as my main desktop because I need to for work AND IT'S BAD.

After their last god damn silent "upgrades".
You have no clue what they're changing.

I couldn't get Wifi do connected for 2 weeks straight more than 30 minutes at a time
That same upgrade also wiped all my settings everywhere, including privacy, security, Apps, etc.
Cortana, the big upgrade for that release, has not worked properly no matter what I did (I'm a computer engineer...),
not only that, since desktop search and Cortana are linked, the search box and even the main menu were slug slow.
A few drivers that worked for 5-6 years, now wonky.
Speech packs upgrades don't work unless you remove yourself off metered internet, which I had set myself to prevent automated upgrades. No manual workarounds!
And on and on and on...

That's just the November upgrade.

Windows 10 has more performance issues that Mary Todd Lincoln. I know several that are keeping with Window 8.1 + a few third party additions that make the desktop functional. Then there are those that insist keeping with Windows 7.

My take is that eventually, some big enterprise install or groups of installs will get down and dirty with Microsoft and all these automated updates and privacy concerns will be out making it stable and private. I can see several government installs making this happen. Then we'll see a cleaner "professional" or "enterprise" release of Windows 10 that is easily worth the extra $100 to keep it from being a pain in the butt.

I go back to writing Win32 API apps going back to Windows 3.1 and the last days of TSR's. Fast forward, I never though I would have a Mac as my day to day machine and primary development environment. I have an 8.1 machine around whenever something hits the wall and I have to use it.
 
Personal jets or more to the point "Corporate Jets" are a tax deduction, as long as they come under "safety and security" of the tax code. Personal Jets if purchased in most states are tax deductible as well and carry no sales tax. New York State just introduced private jets and yachts to be a tax deduction. They also can be depreciated over 5 years even if you hold the jet for 10 years. A $20m write down over 5 years is impressive amount of tax trickery.

Jet fuel is also a tax deduction but only for business use not personal use...

The biggest issue with corporate tax rates is that, yes, Apple makes that money outside of US so to repatriate the income it would make sense for the US Government to tax it at a lower rate. The income was not generated in the US, so why not provide incentive for US companies to bring cash into the country that was made elsewhere.

I knew a family that had a 'creative accountant' that wrote off most of their family owned jet. Seriously...
 
Agree there. iTunes and the Music and Podcasts apps on iOS are bad. But they were bad before Steve died. Many people hated iTunes from the minute was released.

And like I said with Steve there were blunders. Look back and see how Bad OS X 10.0 was - it didn't have CD burning or DVD reading in it on release.... And that was with Steve at the help.

But first release is always a little 'sketchy'. Sometimes a lot sketchy... Windows 1.x was pure garbage, BUT it was the first graphical user interface on a PeeCee. That got a lot of people. Kept a lot of people...

Can't see I see that on my iPhone 6+ or my 2013 era iMac 27" or my 2015 Macbook Air. Firefox has been sicking in the latest versions so your issues may be there. But with Safari it's fine and I don't get slowdowns. My iPhone is light years faster than the Galaxy S5 it replaced.

On the iMac, I have a 1TB SSD, 8GB RAM and just the other week I was in training ran 3x Linux VM's (512MB ea) in VMware, a training course, PDF Pen Pro (spiked @ 7GB usage - it's a memory hog), and the iMac performed flawlessly, even when swapping to disk.

I don't use Firefox on my iPhone. Probably won't ever either. I don't know what's dogging it. Probably never will...

But I have to get some SSD's for my stuff for sure...

BTW: Firefox wouldn't run on my Windows 7 machine after the last update. I had to go to the website and download the newer .0.1 update to fix it. ANY software could choke a device...
 
Thanks for the pics. Yes, there was a lot of PR with Steve on covers and his ego whipped out hard and mighty. However, one rule I was told is that press cameras on the campus was a big no-no. All those pics you bring up were done in studios off the Apple campus.

Steve was very concerned about press running loose on the campus or worst, getting a lay of the place and attempting to enter after the official visit was complete. That is an old investigative reporter trick where you catch the subject with their PR face off. Was told that many reporters were thrown off the campus and given a trespassing notice by legal several times.

My take on the 60 Minutes piece is that it was more a publicity stunt to "show some of the magic" as Walt Disney did with his weekly TV show. Thus, it increases the public image, possibly stock price and, these days, a social media back end survey gaining crowd reaction.
Of course the 60 minutes piece was publicity. I say so what. There were things Apple didn't need to do when Steve was around that maybe they need to do now. Quite honestly that whole second segment with Tim Cook was unnecessary. It was just a rehash of things he said before and stuff that didn't need attention the week of Christmas, like how much tax Apple pays and where their products are manufactured. I would rather have had Ive and others talk about some of the new technologies Apple recently introduced like 3D Touch and Apple Pencil. They don't need to give away the secret sauce but going a bit more in depth would have been more interesting than listening to Tim Cook prattle on about encryption and back doors. And I don't think this piece will have any impact on the stock. The stock is all about iPhone sales and I don't see it going anywhere until Apple releases Q1 earnings and provides guidance for Q2.
 
Rose colored glasses? Hardly...

I get so damn frustrated at the farking changes they have made.

Hiding the shuffle function. No ability to just connect headphones to my iPhone, hit the control a few times, and have music play.

So many 'little' changes, and they are adding up. Farking iTunes is a farking MESS!!! I've got podcasts that are all sideways because 'something happened'. I actually wiped my entire iTunes database on one system, while on a call with Apple Support, and it was STILL sideways after being rebuilt! Rebuilt, not restored...

My iPad is S--L--O--W, my iPhone 6+ is S--L--O--W, my Mac Pro just goes 'out to lunch' at times for no reason that I'm aware. Like just this morning, I was trying to look at a few emails, and I clicked one, the preview popped up, clicked another one, and nothing. Mail was 'out to lunch. I waited a minute, or so, and still no movement. That is a new 'feature'. Had to force quit it. Occasionally, typing in Mail, or Firefox just lags handfuls of seconds on all my Macs...

I can't help wondering if Apple is building timing loops into their software to deliberately slow them down to make people buy new. I know that's a Donald Trump sized conspiracy theory, but an iPhone 6+ shouldn't be showing signs of strain under the new updated OS. It's just over a farking year old!!!

And, yet, I remember the problems with Windows and their phone OS. YIKES!!!

I guess I'm just disappointed, or becoming a flaming ****** as I get older...o_O:eek:

Jeez, if it wasn't for bad luck, you'd have no luck at all.
 
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