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Joswiak is messing with my mind here.
I've been waiting so patiently for a 60GB upgrade to my 1G 10 gigger.
I'm desperately trying not to play into his hands and buy a new 4G 40GB!
 
With the minis in the iPod lineup, Apple doesn't need three standard iPod models to choose from. Plus, they made the iPod appear less expensive, since there is no longer a $499 model.
 
Well, assuming that Apple didn't cancel their order, what are they going to use the 60 GB drives for? Are they even fast enough for regular computers? I have no idea.
 
what's the deal, sparky?

1) did apple cancel their order from toshiba?
2) does "soon" mean not in august or does "soon" mean not before Christmas?
3) is apple still going to get 60 gig drives from toshiba and put them in a newton or the imac or what's the deal?
 
noel4r said:
very few people have 20GB of music, much less 60GB. the extra space would be use for storage.

I have 110GB of music and a 2gen 20GB iPod.... I would gladly fill up a 120GB iPod if they could make one... and yes, I do listen to all of it.
 
noel4r said:
very few people have 20GB of music, much less 60GB. the extra space would be use for storage.
I don't agree. I have nigh on 50GB of music, as have a few of my peers. I would actually use the majority of the space on a 60GB iPod for music.

Yes, I do know how to use Smart Playlists etc. to manage my iTunes library, but nothing beats just being able to dump the whole lot on to your iPod and stride out knowing it's all there when you want it (not to mention a good backup).
 
Can someone out there explain to me how you can really need over 40 gigs for music. I have a 15 giger and I don't see how you could really need much more music than this. I'm very into music and honestly every time I get close to the limit I go through and toss some tracks I haven't listened to and probably never will. If you have 40+ gigs of music do you really listen to all of that or are you just collecting music for bragging rights?
 
AmigoMac said:
I don't see apple putting those ultra-slow HD's in a mac, no matter if power or i , it's plenty out of sense ... no slower than 7200 rpm in the next iMacs ...

What is the speed of this 60 GB drive? How do you know the specifications?
 
york2600 said:
Can someone out there explain to me how you can really need over 40 gigs for music. I have a 15 giger and I don't see how you could really need much more music than this. I'm very into music and honestly every time I get close to the limit I go through and toss some tracks I haven't listened to and probably never will. If you have 40+ gigs of music do you really listen to all of that or are you just collecting music for bragging rights?

I agree with this. If you are that into music you could just get 2 or more iPods.
 
Completely off topic but ...

Every time I read the name Joswiak connected with Apple I end up with this mental vision of some future gestalt combination of Steve Jobs and Steve Wosniak that have come back from the future to re-invigorate apple.

Surely I'm not the only one?
 
BornAgainMac said:
How many people would have over 20 GB of purchased music?

How many people also like to use it as a firewire drive?
How many people do I hear complaining they would never use a lossy format?

I think they're serving multiple markets here. Not everyone uses the iPod solely as a repository for MP3 / AAC compressed audio files.
 
rlreif said:
I have 110GB of music and a 2gen 20GB iPod.... I would gladly fill up a 120GB iPod if they could make one... and yes, I do listen to all of it.

People always do this and I am always curious as to why. Someone says, "Most people don't need anything more than XX GB,"(which has been demonstrated by a recent analyst survey showing that the 4GB iPod mini was sufficient for most people's collections). In response, you get the needle in the haystack who retorts, "I have 150GB! Hurry Apple!"

They conveniently forget that the first statement included the qualifier "most." Whether Apple is making a 60 GB iPod, I really don't know. But I would say there is very little demand for it, from a purely musical standpoint. Sure, when you want a 60GB iPod, you could care less about what the market's demand is, you want it-that should be demand enough. :)

stcanard said:
I think they're serving multiple markets here. Not everyone uses the iPod solely as a repository for MP3 / AAC compressed audio files.

While I certainly cannot prove it, I was say upwards of 95%+ of people do not use it as anything else besides an MP3 player. Like I said, I doubt Apple is on pins and needles waiting to cater to that market.

Anyway, are there 1.8" drives at 7200 rpm? If so, why couldn't these me 7200 rpm and in the new iMac?
 
You don't need to...

ArticulatedArm said:
What is the speed of this 60 GB drive? How do you know the specifications?

DO NOT expect 7200 / 5400 rpm, 1.8" Hard drives soon... I'm pretty sure those babies run slow enough that you can't feel them while holding it...

Maybe we will see those fast HD's, but after the PB G6 :rolleyes:
 
Though I am really hoping apple releases both a remote for airtunes and a 60 gig ipod, I hope they do it in separate packages. I want a remote to detect all of my rendevous shared libraries on my different computers and to merely tell them what to play via airport express. This way I don't have to pay for hard drive and maybe I'd be able to use double a batteries instead, like normal remotes.

My feeling is that when apple releases a 60 gig iPod, they will have at least one other 'big' feature like home on ipod, iphoto or something. There is no reason for video playback, but eventually they'll run out of things to add and mini's hd's will be much bigger. I'll be interested to see where ipods will be in 4 years time.
 
I do

BornAgainMac said:
How many people would have over 20 GB of purchased music?

I easily reached 20GB when I finally decided to rip all my CDs (purchased) and all my LPs into mp3 format a few years back..

Went well beyond 20GB via other means.. friends, family.. ETC....
and who couldn't use the extra room for storage.. backups etc.. carry around a few Garage Band demos etc.. :)
 
carletonmusic said:
Right, because Apple needs to pack Wifi for Airtunes in the 60GB flagship model!! :D

And, the Toshiba drives weren't supposed to be showing up in the marketplace until late August or early September. Hmmf...I guess we wait; no big deal.


I agree, the 60gig is taking longer because it has new "pro" features which require a different form factor.

WiFi is a good bet with Airport Express, especially now that the power factor has been improved - power is always a key issue for portable devices.

Colour and bigger screen is tempting to think for photo users, especially if it has a usb 2.0 port for direct connection...that would sell a bunch to every prosumer/professional photographer...
 
Freg3000 said:
While I certainly cannot prove it, I was say upwards of 95%+ of people do not use it as anything else besides an MP3 player. Like I said, I doubt Apple is on pins and needles waiting to cater to that market.

Ahh, but how many people buy it thinking "cool, I could do <x> with it", then never get around to it?

The real answer of course is that 99% of the market does not need or will never use 60GB, but in the press release game it gives Apple bragging rights over Sony, Dell, Samsung et al and probably has a marginal cost for them since the drive fits in the same form factor.
 
ArticulatedArm said:
Someone in another thread had a great idea when they said these 60 GB models could be for the new ultra small iMac.

But will they be available in time for the iMac?



OOOOOO! I was thinking the same thing....in fact....what if they used these in the G5 iMac....not just one.....but 5! :D Raid 5 in a Imac??? :D It could happen! :D I REALLY DOUBT it .....but would that NOT be cool?? Or if not 5 of them, 2 and software mirroring....a geek can dream right?
 
I have a first gen 10 gigger. It's about time to upgrade.

My debate is between the 20 and the 40. The main issue is do I want/need the dock? If I do, the incrememntal cost to get the 40 gigger is worthwhile. If the dock isn't worth it to me, I'll just get the 20 gigger.

And while I do have enough music to make use of the 40 gigger, I can take the time to swap out music when I want a change on the portable. I mean over 10 days of continuous music (on the 20 gigger in the encoding I use) is enough for variety even over a period of a month. And if I'm at home, I have the rest of the music on the Mac or I could even toss the CD on.
 
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