The iMessage bug is so widespread and annoying I can't believe they haven't sent out an update yet.
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7.0.3 When Should we expect it?
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Wow, you have no idea what you're talking about. That date you are seeing has nothing to do with when the next update is coming out. It's just saying when the next time iTunes will check for an update is.
Also, no, do a little research. Most public releases if iOS updates are Monday and Tuesday.
My iTunes says the 20th, so it must be coming then!
I've been an iOS user for 6 years - and I can guarantee you, that date in iTunes has absolutely nothing, 0% to do with when the next update is coming out. If it came out then, it would be nothing but a coincidence.
You really think Apple is secretly telling just you, kevpan815, the date of the next iOS software update?
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That is such a borked up statement I don't even know where to begin. Every SINGLE of my friends have this issue. My wife does. My parents in Norway does. It is widespread and Apple has admitted to it being an issue - which they rarely ever do before releasing a fix.
Even if most happen to be on those few days, that doesn't mean that they can't be on other days--we've certainly seen beta updates that came out on different days, and even over a weekend. Not to mention that beta and GM dates have little to do with regular point updates anyway. So, apples and oranges comparison at best.
And hold it, the iOS 7 GM was released on Tuesday, September 10, 2013. So just even the single latest GM already further disproves what you said. There is no particular pattern--some days appear more than others, but no true pattern that could be used for actual predictions really exists. Looking for one just leads to wasting time pretty much.
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The iMessage issue "...affects a very small percentage of users" ... funny it's not affected me nor anyone I know.
EDIT: their actual wording is "a fraction of a percent of users affected." ... sorry if I'm not going to scream foul for an issue like that. The seasonal flu kills a fraction of a percent of americans every year.
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An issue that "affects a fraction of a percent of users" ... my gosh. If they sold 6 million iPhone 5s, then even at 9/10th of 1% that's 54,000 users out of 6,000,000. Not an issue they care much about. Heck, the darn dirty-case issue affects more users, and that's like 2% of iPhone 5s users bought the case, 20 times as many users affected as the worst-case iMessage bug.
First, to those that it affects it's a big deal, and they really couldn't care less if it doesn't matter to you or others. Second, if Apple actually came out and even talked about the issue, you can bet it's a big enough deal--Apple doesn't come out and comment on the vast majority of issues, even clearly widespread ones, so for them to do it, just that alone already means it's a big enough deal (whether or not you or anyone else might think otherwise).
Funny how your friends all make up the fraction of a percent. I call exaggeration.
It is not a fraction of a percent. Literally everyone I've talked to are affected. No exaggeration needed.
Yeah, Apple didn't jump up and talk about the "Antennaegate" issue or the "Charging Plug Bug" issue nor the "Apple Maps" issue... yeah, they're sure quit and not willing to step into the spotlight... Oye, people are so selective with what they see.
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I'm fairly certain it's a fraction of a percentage. Open a poll on here and get a rough idea. Someone else asked if it affected them and of the thousands of regulars on here, only a few dozen reported the issue affecting them.
But you'd rather go with the more scientific "Everyone I know..." theory... because clearly you just happen to know those affected.
They did, and exactly because they were big enough issues, which puts this one on that level. Are they jumping on tons of other issues people are experiencing, given that there are tons of them? Exactly.
Or you know, the scientific "it doesn't affect me so clearly it doesn't affect anyone" method.
Let's assume there are 200 Million iOS users (that's a low number, the real number is higher but let's go with that).
1% of that is 2,000,000. Let's say that the fraction Apple is referring to is 3/4 of 1%. That's 1,500,000 people.
You think because you know a few people with this issue, that means that it can't be a fraction of a percent of users experiencing this issue?
By that logic, I know about 40 iOS users (including myself), and none of them are having this issue. Therefore it's only a handful of users with this issue.
Fact is, 3/4 of 1% of users is still several million users - I'd say it's highly likely that Apple's statement is accurate.
NOT TRUE, the GM was released to APPLE DEVELOPERS on Tuesday, September 10th, 2013, however it was released to the GENERAL PUBLIC on Wednesday, September 18th, 2013! Only APPLE DEVELOPERS like me were supposed to have it on the 10th!
Kid, you are crazy..You realize that you posted that GM builds are released on Wednesday, right? But this GM build was released on a Tuesday. GM builds are not public releases, the GM is what's released to developers, you're right. The person you quoted was quoting you, and talking about the GM build, just as you were. Therefore, he's correct, it was released on September 10th, a Tuesday.
Also, do some research and look up the release dates of iOS updates. Most fall on Monday or Tuesday, not Wednesday.
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Fact is it doesn't matter HOW many are affected by the issue. The fact is that it is a SERIOUS issue for the people affected and it should be fixed ASAP.
You yourself said GM builds...what's released to the public isn't referred to as a GM release, simply as a public release. If you can't even get that right, along with the days either, it's rather clear that not much of what you are posting can be considered as anything even close to factual.
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Exactly. The fact is that Apple commented on it and said they are working on a fix...and the fact is that there's no article or comment saying that it's not an issue. So, facts say it's an issue, while opinions say it's not...I think rational people go with facts.
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Mentioned earlier: https://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/01/apple-aware-of-ios-7-imessage-issue-working-on-a-fix/
You know how google works, right? It will search any words you put in separately. Not all of those results contain "iMessage bug." Some contain "iMessage," some contain "bug."
Also, iMessage has been around for 2 years. There have been many iMessage bugs over those two years, including times when Apple's servers were experiencing issues. Your search will bring in results relating to 2 years of iMessage bugs, not just this one. To search for a phrase, you must put it in parentheses.
https://www.google.com/#q=%22iMessage+bug%22
Yes, I realize it's a major issue for those that are experiencing it, but facts are facts.
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Actually, you would have to put in "OR" in between them for it to search for those terms independently.
However, I don't know what a Google search is suppose to really prove.
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The issue affects all iOS devices not just new the 5s. So even using the smallest estimates of iOS devices in the world, you are still talking about millions of users. Plus, the reason Apple can say a fraction of a percent is because not all users have iMessage enabled contacts so they wouldn't know if it wasn't working.
Incorrect, but I suppose it's the fault of my wording..Look at the difference between his google search and the one I just posted. The first way, it will search the words, displaying them together first. Once it's run out of uses of the two words together, it will start posting links that contain the words but not together. You must put it in parentheses to search only for iMessage bug together. Hence why his search has 10 millions results, and my has 400 thousand.
Either way, as I said it my previous post, a search for iMessage bug means nothing as iMessage has been around for 2+ years. There have been many bugs during that time, that google search means nothing.
WRONG! What I said is that the Apple IOS 7 GM Build was still Pre-Release on September 10th which was a WORD FOR WORD CARBON COPY of what it said on Apple's IOS 7.0 Developer's Beta Home Page, which was basically a warning from Apple not to leak the IOS 7 GM Build to non-developer's until it was finalized on September 18th. Just FYI.
There is no pre-release. The GM is released to developers, and then there is a public release (there's not mention of GM in relation to public release).
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