Apple groups the M1 Pro and M1 Max as the same CPU performance on their graphs. So, CPU performance should be the same (assuming same number of cores)
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8-Core 14-Inch MacBook Pro Around 20% Slower Than 10-Core Models in Multi-Core Benchmark
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Apple groups the M1 Pro and M1 Max as the same CPU performance on their graphs. So, CPU performance should be the same (assuming same number of cores)
With ALL the on-chip SRAM & DDR PHY Controller enhancements Apple R&D has added into even the low-end M1 Pro, it is, IMO, an absolutely killer CPU !
My ONLY complaint is the cost of obtaining it !
Will need to wait for the M2 MacBook Pro, out mid-2022 ?
That should be ~20% slower (performance-wise) than the low-end of the M1 Pro.
OK by me, for the price differential ! ... $1.3K vs $2K
If priced right, & NOT performance-crippled in ANY way, the M2 MacBook Pro could be the single-best-selling Mac ever !
My ONLY complaint is the cost of obtaining it !
Will need to wait for the M2 MacBook Pro, out mid-2022 ?
That should be ~20% slower (performance-wise) than the low-end of the M1 Pro.
OK by me, for the price differential ! ... $1.3K vs $2K
If priced right, & NOT performance-crippled in ANY way, the M2 MacBook Pro could be the single-best-selling Mac ever !
The M2 MacBook will likely be based on the A15 or A16, and thus will actually have a faster single-core score.
Doubtfull.
A "pure" M2 MBP (replacing the 13" M1) makes no sense and it seems that Apple wants the Macs on a 2 year schedule.
So some more M1??? (Mini, big iMac) in spring followed by M2 consumer HW (based on A16??) in the 3rd quarter and M2Pro/Max stuff in 23.
All skipping the odd-numbered Axx designs.
Could be wrong would like to be wrong, but they introduced A14 (M1) based SoCs 1 month after the A15.....
I agree. These particular pros that just debuted are suited for youtubers, developers, artists, legitimate professionals. Most People are going to be overspending. If you really need a MacBook, get the Touch Bar M1 for 1099$ and then trade in a year for the M2 pro.
Will YouTube videos play smoothly on the 8-core? Or do I need the M1 Max?
All chip makers have been doing this for all time. That's how they get all the tiers. They aim for a higher count and then sell the not-so-successful bakes with a fewer count. What's set in silicon isn't going to degrade after it's out of the bakery.
laugh if you will,but playing several youtube videos in 8k HDR does take quite a bit of power.
you might wanna get 32gb of ram,and while u're at it ,get the max for 200 bucks more
thank me later buddy
I somehow doubt that binning theory, are there any reliable resources out there confirming this?
In any case I wouldn’t worry too much about it, the processor is one of the last components to fail in a computer. Especially in one with soldered SSD that will die long before the CPU.
Well if you were just counting the performance cores you might expect a 25% drop, so how does the performance of the efficiency cores stack up against the performance cores?
You don't know this for a fact. Actually there have been rumors about keeping around a low-end MBP which would likely be the M2.
Totally a click-bait headline. Why not go with the positive and say the 10-core is X% faster than the 8-core? Am I missing something?
Binning.
With such large chips, there will certainly be defective cores on some, they have to find ways to make some money instead of throwing them away. Offering 8-core CPU and 24-core GPU options (for Max) is a great way to have different price ranges.
This is why single-core performance is identical. It's the same chip. The only reason it could, in theory, be slower is if they decided to have lower cooling on binned chips, but I seriously doubt that scenario.
While there was no official confirmation, diagrams show this to be the case, M1 Pro is literally M1 Max with the bottom part chopped off. Anything else wouldn't make sense for Apple, production and cost-wise.
Strange how your comment would get thumbs-down. The original post was using incorrect English whereas yours was correct. "less" and "fewer" are not interchangeable words as you pointed out.
Were the thumbs-down in reference to something else, as if 20 fewer cores doesn't reduce processing power by 20%?
As I mentioned in the other thread where I posted the benches, the clock speed is lower as well for the 8-core (6+2) CPU / 14-core GPU M1 Pro.
It is possible this is just a normal step down speed, but it is also possible this chip is being binned not only by core count but also by clock speed.
I guess we'll find out when more of these benches show up.
It is possible this is just a normal step down speed, but it is also possible this chip is being binned not only by core count but also by clock speed.
I guess we'll find out when more of these benches show up.