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Does this new iPhone 5C have a rear camera?
Remember the lower cost iPod Touch 5?
 
If this phone is free on contract, I can see the market for it. It would be perfect for my mom. She has a 16GB 4S that has no music, no videos, and hardly any apps or photos. I would imagine there are plenty of folks out there that are just like her.

This is the same with 2 of my family members as well, but I really don't get it; why get an iPhone when you won't be using anything but call and text?
 
If this phone is free on contract, I can see the market for it. It would be perfect for my mom. She has a 16GB 4S that has no music, no videos, and hardly any apps or photos. I would imagine there are plenty of folks out there that are just like her.
Yeah, 8GB phones are ideal for people who hardly use their phone.
 
Seriously Apple ? You should move forward not step back. This is a poor move aesthetic-wise. Business-wise I don't think a lower price will make those god-awful colors any more appealing.
 
8 GB isn't going to cut it for an iPhone. Apps take up too much space and you can really scale down which apps are used but even then, just a few apps can eat up the available space in no time. Relying on the cloud can be useful, but it is the apps that will begin to cause issues.

8GB seems to cost pennies these days. I feel like they should have done away with the 16GB and not go backwards.
 
Even if 8GB is enough for many users (and it is, amazingly) this is still a weird move. Certainly makes no sense in the US with subsidies. I can only assume it makes more sense in some markets?

Regardless, the 5C however is not a failure by any stretch: it's a great phone that serves people outstandingly and has sold better than its predecessor (that being an UN-modified previous-year model without visible differentiation)--sales competitors would have been glad to have taken for themselves.

It also, I'm guessing, paved the way for an even more important branching into 2 models in future. (Screen size, say.)

The 5C is clearly better than the already--very-successful past Apple strategy, which would have been to just sell the 5 still. And better than the competition's "design a million devices from scratch and throw them all at the wall" approach. Using last year's proven and loved high-end (modified or not) as this year's mid-range has real benefits to both Apple and the user.
 
This is the same with 2 of my family members as well, but I really don't get it; why get an iPhone when you won't be using anything but call and text?

There's usefulness there without having it loaded down with apps. You can have a dozen or so apps on there for things like online banking, facebook, twitter, news reader, etc and as long as they aren't graphic intensive games you will hardly use any space. Between that and the built in stuff like calendar and email and you can see what the draw would be over a standard phone.
 
If you need only 8 GB in your iPhone, then you don't need an iPhone.

What is the joy of this phone? Why hobble it with barely enough memory to do the most basic tasks?

This seems to me a great example of what a company wants to sell, rather than what its users need.

The iPhone 5C 8 GB edition. Think big. But not too big! You don't have enough RAM for that!

Think Medium Small.

C'mon Apple. I bought a couple of 5C's for family members and they're great phones! Don't make a 5C that is insanely not-so-great!
 
I agree that 8 gb is much too low for todays standards.

I've found my storage needs have gone down in the last couple of years. Streaming is now the norm so I don't need to keep videos or much of a music collection on my device.

The main thing that eats up space these days is apps, particularly certain large 1GB+ games.

But users who don't care much about gaming and just want to do the basic phone/iMessage/camera/web/email/facebook should be fine with 8GB.
 
8 GB isn't going to cut it for an iPhone. Apps take up too much space and you can really scale down which apps are used but even then, just a few apps can eat up the available space in no time. Relying on the cloud can be useful, but it is the apps that will begin to cause issues.

8GB seems to cost pennies these days. I feel like they should have done away with the 16GB and not go backwards.


Same here, I was hoping the iP6 would be 32/64/128 because my 64 GB iP5 is already close to capacity, but it's starting to look like we'll still be at the current levels for at least one more cycle.
 
1.8 gb on my 4s :/

8 GB is very impractical when you need 1.5 GB just to install an update...

The 1.5GB update isn't installed as an addition. It replaces most of the files in the Core OS. In other words iOS doesn't go from being a 3GB OS to 4.5GB one. 1.5 GB of the 3.0GB is replaced with new code in the update.

The 8GB 5C isn't for the average user on this forum its for regular Joe/Jane Doe on the street.

Same here, I was hoping the iP6 would be 32/64/128 because my 64 GB iP5 is already close to capacity, but it's starting to look like we'll still be at the current levels for at least one more cycle.

If you're close to capacity on a 64GB device, you're hoarding.
 
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There is defiantly market for them, my wife barely has anything on, just the way she is. I have 64 and 36gb free.
At the end $ dictates for the most part...
 
The 1.5GB update isn't installed as an addition. It replaces most of the files in the Core OS. In other words iOS doesn't go from being a 3GB OS to 4.5GB one. 1.5 GB of the 3.0GB is replaced with new code in the update.

I realize that, but you still need the space free in order to install.

The 8GB 5C isn't for the average user on this forum its for regular Joe/Jane Doe on the street.

I don't think that changes anything. In fact, it makes it worse in some ways, as the "average joe" is less likely to waste time managing space. Yes, they will have fewer apps, but they'll be the type of user that keeps photos on their phone or
forgetting about an update if they don't have the space, rather than syncing to their computer.
 
8GB is an insult to customers. 16GB barely cuts it when you're using the iPhone as it's supposed to be used (some music, some photos, some apps). :mad:

I know some people with an 8GB iPhone, and they're always running out of space. And these are light users, who only have a few apps and occasionally take a photo or two. I'd say 8GB devices are basically crippled out of the box.

Apple needs to stop this madness.

"Madness" is insisting there's a particular way a device is "supposed" to be used. My dad would be just fine with a 4GB iPhone. Just because you are not the target demographic for this device does not mean that a target demographic doesn't exist.
 
There are a lot of people on this thread that usually disagree with each other.

On this thread. . . . . they are ALL in accordance with how much of a load of crap an 8GB iPhone would be in today's market.

A few emails and an app or two would fill that up.

Not to mention photos.

Might as well make it a feature phone.
 
I don't think that changes anything. In fact, it makes it worse in some ways, as the "average joe" is less likely to waste time managing space. Yes, they will have fewer apps, but they'll be the type of user that keeps photos on their phone or
forgetting about an update if they don't have the space, rather than syncing to their computer.

No, the "average Joe" that we're talking about here is someone who doesn't take many photos at all, or have a music collection. It's a portable phone and internet device for them.

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Even if 8GB is enough for many users (and it is, amazingly) this is still a weird move. Certainly makes no sense in the US with subsidies. I can only assume it makes more sense in some markets?

Given that carriers like AT&T are moving away from subsidies in the US, I can actually see the logic here. Plus, right now, Apple loses sales for broken iPhones to Craiglist and the like. This is a smart play—and frankly not dissimilar from previous plays.
 
Another even more useless iPhone 5c :apple:

Exactly. What a joke. Anyone bending over backwards defending apple after this needs to realize that there is simply a percentage of folks who will by crap, just because it's an apple product. Usability be damned.
 
No, the "average Joe" that we're talking about here is someone who doesn't take many photos at all, or have a music collection. It's a portable phone and internet device for them.[

I disagree, photography on the iPhone is big for the average person. It's the tech nerd
who will have a fancy standalone camera, everyone else will use their phone. Photos and music are completely "average joe" things.

The "average joe" you're talking about wouldn't be looking at an iPhone at all.
 
I've found my storage needs have gone down in the last couple of years. Streaming is now the norm so I don't need to keep videos or much of a music collection on my device.

The main thing that eats up space these days is apps, particularly certain large 1GB+ games.

But users who don't care much about gaming and just want to do the basic phone/iMessage/camera/web/email/facebook should be fine with 8GB.

im not saying there is no market for it, there definitely is. But 16 should be the norm, if not 32. Especially if apple wants to be able to update phones for the 4 or so years. iOS 11 will probably be so large it won't be able to fit onto the 8gb with enough room to have a good amount of apps/pictures/music that will be collected in that time.
 
Right on... The non-upgradeable memory is to force your money through Apples hands if you need more Mem. They are doing the exactly same thing across the Mac Lines. Being a long time Apple Fan, it has been years of disappointment as I watch Apple move to form over function and in cases like this, money grabbing.

Lol, I had to go back and see if I wrote this post myself. I think ie said just about the same thing a disk times on here. Lol

It really is sad. I'm a huge apple fan as well, and it's getting more and more difficult to be so. The choices they make and their anti-consumer moves have made me advise family members to go back to windows on their next computer upgrades. The only hope left is the Mac mini, which they have let rot on the vine. If that goes ant-consumer as well, then apple can kiss 4 families if Mac users good-bye.

Pathetic.
 
if 4S is for $450 then there's no way they will sell the 5C for $449 if they want to continue to position it as "our med-tier iPhone"....

they will probably drop the 4S to $399!
 
I'm confident many consumers will love this new option in the iPhone product family. This new option meets the needs of those who want the very best phone on the marketplace, but they only want to use a few everyday apps like Facebook, Twitter, Dominos Pizza, Notes and Mail.

I'm definitely excited to see how many new customers buy one of these awesome devices.
 
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