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Apple's products are great. But it's crap like this that actually makes me think they're retarded. I was hoping that the base model of the iPhone 6 would be 32 gb for the 200 dollar price point. Cuz it switched from 8 up to 16 a few years ago. How do you even justify selling an 8 gb phone in 2014!?!?!? Bad Apple.

Lmaoooo thank you! Apple makes some very idiotic decisions. 8GB? GTFOH.

Make the lightning cables more durable and stop selling these 8GB Devices.
 
Good grief. I'm not saying all iPhone users are homogenous. I have no idea where you are getting that from.
I "get it" from the fact that you keep talking about "most users" when I've discussed what the target demographic for this device is—which is explicitly not "most users."

As for the rest of your post about a bunch of people being confused, all I can say is that Apple's had a $0-after-subsidy entry level 8GB iPhone for a few years now. The iPhone 3GS was made available for $0 back in late 2011, the iPhone 4 later took its place, and then the 4S. So with the fact that a free entry level has been around for years now, and we haven't seen consumers up in arms about "Wha wha, I can't do X" (because realistically, even the most naive of consumers notices there are multiple options when they go to purchase)...I don't see your point.

The rage people have for this device, and the reasons they use to justify that rage, are almost comical at this point.
 
As for the rest of your post about a bunch of people being confused, all I can say is that Apple's had a $0-after-subsidy entry level 8GB iPhone for a few years now. The iPhone 3GS was made available for $0 back in late 2011, the iPhone 4 later took its place, and then the 4S.

It was OK back in 2011, but now when we have better cameras and 1.5 GB updates, it's time to get rid of it. It's way too easy to run into limits for all but the most casual of users, and the more novice user you are, the more frustrating running into a limit will be.

In general, Apple needs to stop being so stingy with space. 16/32/64/128; you should get iCloud space equal to your device.
 
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There is a simple solution to the issues people are bringing up here...just don't buy it. 8GB may not be enough for the masses, but as a pre-paid or low end/priced phone it's great. As others have mentioned, my mom has a 5c with 16GB, but she doesn't use it for anything but a phone and text message. 8GB is plenty for her.

They are just covering all bases due to the lower than expected 5c numbers. Relax...
 
Haha, typical Macrumors to complain like this. This is a great introductory product for someone switching a simple flip phone who mainly uses their phone for texting, phone calls, and the basics, who doesn't have a lot of music and only uses a handful of apps. It's not targeted towards the majority.
 
not really, and theyre totally different items. not having external storage is about OS and hardware design. it's much simpler to build an OS that doesnt support external storage (ex: what happens when the storage is removed -- do the app icons disappear? what if you load somebody else's memory card? etc...). RAM on macs is a different issue, and it's only the entry-level iMac that doesnt have upgradeable.


Micro SD cards. Build a phone or pad that has that built in for storage. Add the APPLE TAX to the cost and let the consumer choose if they want a 128GB MicroSD or maybe even a 256GB microSD. It won't happen because Apple wants you to upgrade your phone or pad the next year. Forced obsolescence. It has annoyed many people for the last few years. Its annoyed me, but I keep buying them. I am seriously looking at other options each time I would like to upgrade.

As far as Macs go, the ENTIRE Macbook Pro lineup has moved to proprietary drives and soldered Memory. The issues I have the fact that Apple thinks we want 2mm thinner laptop rather then a laptop we can upgrade and make it last a few more years. The proprietary connectors on the flash is just money grabbing at its best. I do realize that other manufacturers solder memory. We must realize that a Lenovo Yoga 2 with 8GB RAM costs 60% the price of a Macbook Pro retina, same spec. When you start getting into 15" MacBooks with 16GB RAM at $2500, that is just too much to have an obsolete device in a few year.

Apple is forcing the money through their coffers. Form and finances over function...
 
I agree that 8 gb is much too low for todays standards.

I'll explain it to you.

People complained the 5c was too pricey for what it was worth. Drop the 5c in price and storage space. And people who only want a phone (but enjoy how easy iOS makes phone calls and sms and checking emails on the go) will love this.

Heck at the right price I might even upgrade my iPhone 1 to this. I have no want for the iPhone to be a PC. It is a PC but I have an iPad for all the, "on the go" PC stuff I need. I just want a phone. And a cheap iPhone will do that for me.

This will really set the 5s and 5c apart and give people a reason to buy the 5c.
 
The 16GB iPhone 5c comes free even on the most crappy contracts already and has a street price of 489€ off-contract in Europe (which is quite competitive), the 32GB counterpart one of 514€. This would be like 464€?

The only possible explainations are A) fake or B) 249€ on prepaid with a SIM lock. Which, given the much lower cost of data on prepaid all across Europe and the people who would be interested in an 8GB iPhone 5c, wouldn't be the worst move.
 
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Things like this are just embarrassing.

Apple, come to your senses. Make 32 the base storage in the next iPhone. And get rid of the 5C, it's so pointless when they should be selling the 5 in place of the 5C.
 
I'll explain it to you.

People complained the 5c was too pricey for what it was worth. Drop the 5c in price and storage space. And people who only want a phone (but enjoy how easy iOS makes phone calls and sms and checking emails on the go) will love this.

Heck at the right price I might even upgrade my iPhone 1 to this. I have no want for the iPhone to be a PC. It is a PC but I have an iPad for all the, "on the go" PC stuff I need. I just want a phone. And a cheap iPhone will do that for me.

This will really set the 5s and 5c apart and give people a reason to buy the 5c.

I really doubt that the extra 8gb of memory was keeping the price high. I mentioned in another post that if apple wants to keep their phones updated like the iphone 4 ( 4 years old and can run newest OS) they have to allow room for ios 11 which would probably take up the majority of the 8gb, leaving little room for pictures, apps and music that has been collected through the years of owning the phone. I might be wrong but that is my opinion on the issue.
 
There is a simple solution to the issues people are bringing up here...just don't buy it. 8GB may not be enough for the masses, but as a pre-paid or low end/priced phone it's great. As others have mentioned, my mom has a 5c with 16GB, but she doesn't use it for anything but a phone and text message. 8GB is plenty for her.

They are just covering all bases due to the lower than expected 5c numbers. Relax...

8GB may be plenty now, but for how long?
 
8GB is an insult to customers. 16GB barely cuts it when you're using the iPhone as it's supposed to be used (some music, some photos, some apps). :mad:

I know some people with an 8GB iPhone, and they're always running out of space. And these are light users, who only have a few apps and occasionally take a photo or two. I'd say 8GB devices are basically crippled out of the box.

Apple needs to stop this madness.

I have a 16 gb iPhone 5 and it's enough for me. I have 1 gb of music and upload my photo's etc regularly on iPhoto and delete them from the phone.

I absolutely HATE it when apps like Facecrook, instawhatever etc take more then 1 gigabite of space!
I regularly delete these apps and redownload them, wth are they storing on my iPhone anyways?

not caring all my music with me is better. I used to carry so much music with me on my iPod, but all I did was 'forward, forward, forward' until i found something that fitted my mood. Now that I can't take all my music with me, I need to choose very well, and that is keeping my taste and involvement in music much higher.
 
It continues to puzzle me why they insist on offering an 8GB version of ANYTHING anymore, when the difference in cost between 8GB and 16GB of NAND flash is a couple bucks.

C'mon, Apple. This makes you look like friggin' idiots.
 
If true it'll be interesting to see what the sim free or pay as you go price will be if the 8Gb 5C is true. Not sure if it'd be worth upgrading from my current 5 for 4G when it appears in my area (I'm with O2-UK, 4G won't work on that network in the UK with the 5).

I tend to only use a few apps and don't put music on my phone so 8Gb should be enough for me - my 16Gb iPhone 5 still has about 10Gb free on it!
 
I'll explain it to you.

People complained the 5c was too pricey for what it was worth. Drop the 5c in price and storage space.

Umm, the cost difference between 8GB and 16GB of NAND flash is only a couple bucks. Unless they're only dropping the price a couple of bucks, this makes no sense.

They could have dropped the price without cutting capacity, and would still be making nearly as much money on price-dropped 16GB models as they are on these compromised 8GB ones.
 
Right on... The non-upgradeable memory is to force your money through Apples hands if you need more Mem. They are doing the exactly same thing across the Mac Lines. Being a long time Apple Fan, it has been years of disappointment as I watch Apple move to form over function and in cases like this, money grabbing.

Hmmm. I don't see how they are any different from any other manufacturer. You almost always get less product for more money

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It continues to puzzle me why they insist on offering an 8GB version of ANYTHING anymore, when the difference in cost between 8GB and 16GB of NAND flash is a couple bucks.

C'mon, Apple. This makes you look like friggin' idiots.

No it doesn't. They're a business and this is how they make money, (lots of it). My company can sell you a 500KW or a 600KW power supply. The only difference is in the software that tells the hardware what it is. The price difference between the two models? Far more than the cost of changing a few noughts and ones.
Same with a lot of car models. Same engine and running gear but different state of tune. Large price difference.
 
I'm all for cheaper iPhones, and this is going to be Apple's cheapest iPhone yet. But the question is, will it be just a tiny bit cheaper? Because then it won't be worth it, the difference between 8 and 16 is very important since most of that 8 gig will be taken up by software and all the basic things you use every day (music, photos, videos). There will be no space left for flexibility.
 
A quick search bought up this article that suggests the 8Gb 5C would be price at around £420 in the UK, or 60 Euros less than the 16Gb iPhone 5C.

That's still an awful lot of money, it would have to be under £300 for me to consider buying that version - but for the fairly small price differential I'd probably go for the 16Gb version.
 
Umm, the cost difference between 8GB and 16GB of NAND flash is only a couple bucks. Unless they're only dropping the price a couple of bucks, this makes no sense.

They could have dropped the price without cutting capacity, and would still be making nearly as much money on price-dropped 16GB models as they are on these compromised 8GB ones.

The cost difference I am talking about is what Apple charge us for NAND. Not the price Apple buy it. The cost difference between 8GB and 16GB of NAND flash to the end iPhone user is a lot more than $2.
 
This is how they're going to replace the 3.5" 30-pin almost 3-year-old 4S with a phone that has the 5's (not 5s) internals.

It's called modernization.

I don't see why you're all getting so agitated - if you're the kind of person who reads MacRumors, you're not going to buy this phone. So stop complaining about it. So what if it's 8 GB? That's all some people need. If it's free on contract, to the kind of people who will buy this, the actual price of the phone is as good as free, so the actual pricing of 8 GB is nothing to them.

If you're asking them to move all of the pricing tiers down so that 16 GB is base at free and 32 GB is $99 for the 5c, then you're just yelling at a wall because there's no reason for them to do that.
 
You do realise the majority of customers don't have a ton of apps, music or photos loaded on their phones? Apple does analytics on customer behaviour and they'll know very well there is a big market for this new product offering.

Well I guess that means the App Store being "better" than the Play Store is pointless since people don't have many apps installed anyways. :rolleyes:

It's still an iPhone. The experience will be phenomenal.

Much like how a baby eating baby food thinks its the most amazing thing ever.
 
8GB is useless by today's standards. It's 8 GB! iOS it's self takes a huge chunk of that. After all is said and done, you get, like, 5-6GB.

I wonder if they might discontinue the 32GB 5c. I've been told by many stores nearby that people would rather by a 16GB 5s instead of a 32GB 5c, so the 32GB is doing worse then the 16GB.

If this is true, I hope someone has a fire sale. I want to pick up a green 5c for Verizon.
 
I bought my partner a 32GB iPhone 5S since there was no 16GB available morning of...even though we were the first in line at BestBuy...he hasn't gone past the 16GB mark...

A lot of the older crowd simply don't use that much space....barely 100 songs, a handful of useful apps...a couple small sized games and that's it.

8GB is realistic for a lot of users. I think this will target the spoiled children whose parents get the cheapest model of iPhone possible...when they grow up and (hopefully) get a job, they can upgrade to a bigger/better iPhone.
 
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