Exactly. A lot of companies capitalize on the ignorance of buyers. Not illegal and a money maker.
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Exactly. A lot of companies capitalize on the ignorance of buyers. Not illegal and a money maker.
The 9.7 iPad Pro has an A9X, "surround sound" speakers, much better camera, true-tone screen and external keyboard with other accessory support. Does this command a $200 premium? Up to you. But no one's forcing you to buy that over the now $100 discounted iPad Air 2.
What exactly did people want the new 9.7 iPad to have? Obviously not much was going to change from what we saw with the release of the 12.9 iPad Pro a few months ago.
What exactly did people want the new 9.7 iPad to have? Obviously not much was going to change from what we saw with the release of the 12.9 iPad Pro a few months ago.
Same here, but I am still slightly annoyed at the mid-cycle storage upgrade.
I find it absolutely insane that they would ship a member of their highest end 'Pro' tablet line with the same amount of RAM as their entry-level / cheapest phone.
Bummer, makes the 9.7" iPad Pro upgrade from an iPad Air 2 much less attractive. Leaning heavily towards passing. That is pretty major for me as I've owned every 9.7" iPad other than the iPad 4 (and 3 of the 4 mini's) I typically updated each year and passed my previous ones down to family members.
My biggest complaint with my Air 2 isn't the speakers or the speed and I have no use for the pencil or smart connector in the iPad Pro. It is that the Air 2, even with 2gb, still bogs down Safari when using it for a while due to bad memory management. Apple still hasn't fixed that, but was hoping the additional memory would help it occur less often so I'm not always exiting and "quitting" Safari to get it working/scrolling faster again on some sites.
My biggest complaint with my Air 2 isn't the speakers or the speed and I have no use for the pencil or smart connector in the iPad Pro. It is that the Air 2, even with 2gb, still bogs down Safari when using it for a while due to bad memory management. Apple still hasn't fixed that, but was hoping the additional memory would help it occur less often so I'm not always exiting and "quitting" Safari to get it working/scrolling faster again on some sites.
No, it's because numbers in benchmarks and spec sheets mean little, aside from storage size. Also, if they do I'll be getting the storage size that works for me. Because that's the one spec that actually helps users know what to buy.
So now developers are going to have to write "pro" apps for the two iPad pros, where one has half the memory .
Or do we just get certain apps that will only work on the 12"
Please fire the bean counters and hire some people who can unite the product line, this fragmentation In search of $$$ is becoming ridiculous . And to think apple used to get up on stage and laugh at android for fragmenting thier products......
At least the 5SE can be my next phone, cause once they remove the headphone jack in the 7, I'm out.
Apple would be better off going back 4 years, keeping exactly the same product lines back than and upping the specs to 2016 like they did with the 5S.
Or do we just get certain apps that will only work on the 12"
Please fire the bean counters and hire some people who can unite the product line, this fragmentation In search of $$$ is becoming ridiculous . And to think apple used to get up on stage and laugh at android for fragmenting thier products......
At least the 5SE can be my next phone, cause once they remove the headphone jack in the 7, I'm out.
Apple would be better off going back 4 years, keeping exactly the same product lines back than and upping the specs to 2016 like they did with the 5S.
Nothing to say but to agree. If yesterday I was planning to get this device, not as really something "Pro" or "computer replacement" but as a pleasant toy that will last minimum a couple of years, now I doubt if I need any of the current iPads at all. 12,9" is just too big, heavy and expensive for a casual toy, and to buy something just to find it has problems running the new OS or apps or keeping enough tabs open in a browser just after a year or so? I know better ways to spend my money.
Probably it's really better to wait for MacBook Pro line update and get a real new computer.
First, Windows uses FAR more RAM to run just about anything than an iOS device. That alone would not make a product "pro". But for sake of argument, let's take a look at the processor speed which WOULD be a measure of professional performance.
The Surface "Pro" 3 using an Intel Atom x7 processor clocked at 1.6 GHz. The iPad Pro has an A9X clocked at 2.5 GHz. Now, clock speed is not the measure of a processor's performance alone. But look at these GeekBench results:
Surface Pro 3 Intel Atom x7-Z8700 1.6 Ghz: Single Core: 950* Multi Code: 3200*
iPad Pro A9X at 2.5 GHz: Single Core: 3250* Multi Core: 5500*
Just in Geekbench scores alone, this more than THREE TIMES faster at single core tasks and almost twice as fast at multi core. The Surface Pro being called a "Pro" machine is a joke with an Atom processor that belongs in a Netbook. The reason the iPad Pro is given a "Pro" moniker is because it's basically as fast as my late 2013 MacbookPro with 8 GB of RAM. Think about that for a second. By next year, the A10 will be as fast as Macbook Pro levels.
That's why it's a "Pro" device. I'm not even touching graphics performance.
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Or maybe, just maybe, more features can be added to the same program that are only active on iPads with 4. Do you know how programs work? I'm guessing no.
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I don't know why people are thinking the 64GB tier is going to jump to 128GB...I don't see that happening. It will be 32/64/128 for awhile. I'm guessing Apple considers the iPad Pro to be a different kind of device, hence the 256 option.
I don't know why people are thinking the 64GB tier is going to jump to 128GB...I don't see that happening. It will be 32/64/128 for awhile. I'm guessing Apple considers the iPad Pro to be a different kind of device, hence the 256 option.
That's your perogative to ignore specs and benchmarks. But this is not how the rest of the educated consumers in the world works. There is absolutely nothing wrong with understanding what the numbers in the benchmarks and specs mean...it's one thing to blindly follow those numbers and completely smart to make sense of those numbers and how it affects your experience/performance in a product.
I'm not saying I don't love Apple products but in after iOS 7 I have had enough of Apple bullcrap. The IPP 12.9" was the last iPad I'm buying because with that behemoth Apple surprisingly added 4GB or ram and that was the deal sealer for me. I just wished Phil and the marketing goons don't run the show these days. The PRO moniker needs to be reserved for products that offer PRO hardware. This should've been called an iPad Air 3.
Where did anyone say they they were forced to buy it? Point it out please?
I HAVE seen people discussing whether it is worth it, which if I am not mistaken is what forums like this is for?
I am sure it will outsell even the iPhone 7 and 6 in 2016! This was a really smart move by Apple. The "must have reflex" was instantly on with this phone...
Let's be honest here people:
Everyone was praising the Air 2 because of it's incredible speed and the night and day difference between caused by the RAM. Now the 13" iPad has 4GB of RAM and suddenly 2GB is unbearable? I'll admit that charing $150 more and not adding the RAM is annoying, but speaking from experience I have almost NO issues with an Air 2. I could have 8 Safari table open, 4 other smaller apps, play a 3D game and come back to Safari the next day and all my tabs where there. Sure, I would have liked 4GB, but I think 2GB is still more than sufficient for now and I don't think the Pro is going to become a hunk of junk.
As for people comparing it to the iPad 3. This iPad has nearly 20x the CPU/GPU power as the iPad 3 with the same screen The A9X is incredibly fast and efficient with less heat, the display is lamented and it has 2GB of RAM which was top of the line 6 months ago. This device is not going to overheat and become a lagging mess like the iPad 3.
The Air 2 was going to be the next "longevity" model - the Pro is 2x as fast with Apple Pencil, why is the Pro now an "iPad 3 failure" when it's even better than the "longevity" model?
And aside from less layers in Procreate (which no one has a number) and the inability to keep more than 15+ tabs open in Safari along with 7 other apps, what negative consequence are you suffering from having 2GB or RAM?
Everyone was praising the Air 2 because of it's incredible speed and the night and day difference between caused by the RAM. Now the 13" iPad has 4GB of RAM and suddenly 2GB is unbearable? I'll admit that charing $150 more and not adding the RAM is annoying, but speaking from experience I have almost NO issues with an Air 2. I could have 8 Safari table open, 4 other smaller apps, play a 3D game and come back to Safari the next day and all my tabs where there. Sure, I would have liked 4GB, but I think 2GB is still more than sufficient for now and I don't think the Pro is going to become a hunk of junk.
As for people comparing it to the iPad 3. This iPad has nearly 20x the CPU/GPU power as the iPad 3 with the same screen The A9X is incredibly fast and efficient with less heat, the display is lamented and it has 2GB of RAM which was top of the line 6 months ago. This device is not going to overheat and become a lagging mess like the iPad 3.
The Air 2 was going to be the next "longevity" model - the Pro is 2x as fast with Apple Pencil, why is the Pro now an "iPad 3 failure" when it's even better than the "longevity" model?
And aside from less layers in Procreate (which no one has a number) and the inability to keep more than 15+ tabs open in Safari along with 7 other apps, what negative consequence are you suffering from having 2GB or RAM?
We've been excusing apple for giving less for far too much time. 4 Gb were the proper thing, stop the excuses. The iPod could had been a 1Gb device because the rest were selling 512 mb devices or using 650 mb Cds, but it got 10Gb. That's the proper Steve Jobs Apple, not this shameful beancounters Apple. I can't stand people defending them for being penny-pinching.
I'm thinking that because with the iPhone 6, they made 64 more "Appetizing" by lowering the price $100, and making a bigger gap between that and the 16GB model by eliminating the 32. But, if 32GB does in fact become the base model, the 64GB model suddenly doesn't look as appetizing, and now that extra $100 is getting you "less" so to speak (32 extra GB compared to 48). That's why I think they'll go the iPad Pro route and do a 32 -> 128 leap.
I truly hope with all the discussions going on here everyone realizes if they haven't already, that Apple is really a marketing company that does a great job distorting your reality into believing in stuff they spew out. There are no competitors to the iPad right now (in tablet form) so they have an advantage. This iPad Pro 9.7 cough cough iPad Air 3 is worth an upgrade because of the performance and display with pencil support. It is worth it but calling it a PRO and then saying it has same A9X processor then proving in benchmarks it is slower and has half the RAM is just misleading.
If you must buy an iPad Air 3 then this model is it. But I find it really irritating that these marketing goons keep lying and lying. That's what marketing does I guess but seriously don't try to pretend the iPad can replace 600miilion 5 year old PC's because it can't - I can't even download an MP3/AAC file and store it on my iTunes account with a LAPTOP!
If you must buy an iPad Air 3 then this model is it. But I find it really irritating that these marketing goons keep lying and lying. That's what marketing does I guess but seriously don't try to pretend the iPad can replace 600miilion 5 year old PC's because it can't - I can't even download an MP3/AAC file and store it on my iTunes account with a LAPTOP!
If you're writing code differently for a 2 GB device versus a 4 GB device, you're doing it wrong.
Identical scenario to me: wanted a nice, decent sized tablet that'd last a decent while and perhaps expand my usage of iOS.
Suddenly a lot less difficult holding onto the (hopefully) WWDC Mac announcements! Space grey 13" MBP here I come.
Except they mean nothing. Seriously. Whoever wins in AnTuTu should be fastest, but it isn't always. How about GeekBench? Nope, useless. I know, let's look at RAM. Let's buy the phone with the most RAM and it should reload the least. Yet the 6S Plus with 2gb of RAM holds more things than a Note 5 with 4gb.
Benchmarks are meaningless.
Specs are, for the most part, not going to be able to mean much either. Should I get the 2 core phone or the 4 or the 8? I mean, that's the discussion you apparently want. Or the 2gb vs the 4gh phone. Or the resolution of the screen. What specs are supposedly useful? Or are they all?
Phil isn't as annoying looking on stage - he actually comes off non-prickish - that Eddie Cue my gosh, he looks like some axxhole that would sleep with your wife by trying to offer you money just because he has lots of it. Total sleeze.
The reason might be the small battery. More RAM needs more power opposed to more flash.
