9.7-inch iPad Pro and iPhone SE Both Have 2GB RAM

[Toltepeceno]

I truly hope with all the discussions going on here everyone realizes if they haven't already, that Apple is really a marketing company that does a great job distorting your reality into believing in stuff they spew out.

Exactly the point I am trying to make. Apple has built confidence with a lot of consumers, even a cult following (not meaning to insult) with some, and the majority do not even look at specs like ram. It's called Pro and they believe pro.

 

[AliMacs]

Except they mean nothing. Seriously. Whoever wins in AnTuTu should be fastest, but it isn't always. How about GeekBench? Nope, useless. I know, let's look at RAM. Let's buy the phone with the most RAM and it should reload the least. Yet the 6S Plus with 2gb of RAM holds more things than a Note 5 with 4gb.

Benchmarks are meaningless.

Specs are, for the most part, not going to be able to mean much either. Should I get the 2 core phone or the 4 or the 8? I mean, that's the discussion you apparently want. Or the 2gb vs the 4gh phone. Or the resolution of the screen. What specs are supposedly useful? Or are they all?

I'm not trying to say the 2GB in the iPad Air 2/Pro is useless. In fact I have an Air 2 as well and it works flawlessly. I'm just not happy with the direction Apple is going these days especially on stage saying it's the same A9X processor when in reality it's NOT especially with HALF the RAM. And then sell it as if it's the same as the 12.9" - people will buy it regardless because they want a 9.7" display but it's not being truthful. That's just my view on it.

Everyone makes a good point here and I'm not here to argue about if 2GB is the future for the iPads because I don't work at Apple and I'm not behind the engineering of the chip. I do know for a fact ram is important or else we'd have 512MB ram. 1GB on the iPHone 6 is already too low. Calling this iPad a PRO with 2GB ram and USB 2.0 interface is just really marketing bullcrap.

 

[nando87]

Phil isn't as annoying looking on stage - he actually comes off non-prickish - that Eddie Cue my gosh, he looks like some axxhole that would sleep with your wife by trying to offer you money just because he has lots of it. Total sleeze.

He'll need a hell of a lot of money.

 

[Michael Goff]

Let's be honest here people:

Everyone was praising the Air 2 because of it's incredible speed and the night and day difference between caused by the RAM. Now the 13" iPad has 4GB of RAM and suddenly 2GB is unbearable? I'll admit that charing $150 more and not adding the RAM is annoying, but speaking from experience I have almost NO issues with an Air 2. I could have 8 Safari table open, 4 other smaller apps, play a 3D game and come back to Safari the next day and all my tabs where there. Sure, I would have liked 4GB, but I think 2GB is still more than sufficient for now and I don't think the Pro is going to become a hunk of junk.

As for people comparing it to the iPad 3. This iPad has nearly 20x the CPU/GPU power as the iPad 3 with the same screen The A9X is incredibly fast and efficient with less heat, the display is lamented and it has 2GB of RAM which was top of the line 6 months ago. This device is not going to overheat and become a lagging mess like the iPad 3.

The Air 2 was going to be the next "longevity" model - the Pro is 2x as fast with Apple Pencil, why is the Pro now an "iPad 3 failure" when it's even better than the "longevity" model?

And aside from less layers in Procreate (which no one has a number) and the inability to keep more than 15+ tabs open in Safari along with 7 other apps, what negative consequence are you suffering from having 2GB or RAM?

Let's be honest here people:

Everyone was praising the Air 2 because of it's incredible speed and the night and day difference between caused by the RAM. Now the 13" iPad has 4GB of RAM and suddenly 2GB is unbearable? I'll admit that charing $150 more and not adding the RAM is annoying, but speaking from experience I have almost NO issues with an Air 2. I could have 8 Safari table open, 4 other smaller apps, play a 3D game and come back to Safari the next day and all my tabs where there. Sure, I would have liked 4GB, but I think 2GB is still more than sufficient for now and I don't think the Pro is going to become a hunk of junk.

As for people comparing it to the iPad 3. This iPad has nearly 20x the CPU/GPU power as the iPad 3 with the same screen The A9X is incredibly fast and efficient with less heat, the display is lamented and it has 2GB of RAM which was top of the line 6 months ago. This device is not going to overheat and become a lagging mess like the iPad 3.

The Air 2 was going to be the next "longevity" model - the Pro is 2x as fast with Apple Pencil, why is the Pro now an "iPad 3 failure" when it's even better than the "longevity" model?

And aside from less layers in Procreate (which no one has a number) and the inability to keep more than 15+ tabs open in Safari along with 7 other apps, what negative consequence are you suffering from having 2GB or RAM?

Bigger numbers were given to us, so smaller numbers are now bad.
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I'm not trying to say the 2GB in the iPad Air 2/Pro is useless. In fact I have an Air 2 as well and it works flawlessly. I'm just not happy with the direction Apple is going these days especially on stage saying it's the same A9X processor when in reality it's NOT especially with HALF the RAM. And then sell it as if it's the same as the 12.9" - people will buy it regardless because they want a 9.7" display but it's not being truthful. That's just my view on it.

Everyone makes a good point here and I'm not here to argue about if 2GB is the future for the iPads because I don't work at Apple and I'm not behind the engineering of the chip. I do know for a fact ram is important or else we'd have 512MB ram. 1GB on the iPHone 6 is already too low. Calling this iPad a PRO with 2GB ram and USB 2.0 interface is just really marketing bullcrap.

It is called a Pro because of the Smart Connector and pencil. That's what seems to be the differentiator.

 

[Princejb134]

2gb ram? No longer interested in the iPad Pro.
Ill go buy a used iPad Air 2 on Craigslist. You messed up apple

 

[MH01]

Or maybe, just maybe, more features can be added to the same program that are only active on iPads with 4. Do you know how programs work? I'm guessing no.

So you missed the whole point about fregmenting your own devices?

The memory example was a bad one as the other poster pointed out, and your reply saying features can be added if you have more ram is even worse. Do you know how programs work???

 

[Mr. Donahue]

My iPhone 6 is still running great! But I'm so tempted to get an SE.

I was going to buy this iPad pro 9.7" but not now after hearing it's slower than the larger model. Why would a newer product be slower?!!!!!' Big mistake. Unforgivable actually. No sale for me.
I'll wait for iPad mini 5

 

[AlexJoda]

I really don't need another phone, but the SE is sounding really good .... I don't use 3D Touch on my 6S+ as it is ....

If only the 64gb was €450 and not €599 here, I'd let my impulsiveness rule my wallet. As it stands I don't need - but desire.

The difference to the Dollar price of $499 looks heavy in this case although I know that that there is no tax with the dollar price...

 

[Toltepeceno]

Phil isn't as annoying looking on stage - he actually comes off non-prickish - that Eddie Cue my gosh, he looks like some axxhole that would sleep with your wife by trying to offer you money just because he has lots of it. Total sleeze.

To me Tim Cook is annoying. Probably Blasphemy on this forum, but they way he comes across to me is annoying. I know he is a salesman and his is doing what he is supposed to but I watch a blog being updated to see what is coming.

"We just released ipad air 3, called it pro and tacked on 100.00 plus I just sharted!"

Clap, clap, clap.

 

[MH01]

If you're writing code differently for a 2 GB device versus a 4 GB device, you're doing it wrong.

Correct. A very Poor example .

 

[ZBoater]

OMG, yes its slower. It's almost unusable it is so slow.

Oh, wait.

 

[Michael Goff]

So you missed the whole point about fregmenting your own devices?

The memory example was a bad one as the other poster pointed out, and your reply saying features can be added if you have more ram is even worse. Do you know how programs work???

Yes, I do. Let me point out an example of a high end video game. If you have a better graphics card and more RAM, you have a different experience. There isn't a different version of the game for low and high end devices. There is a bare minimum (say, 2gb of RAM) and extra features for people with more power. That's how programming works. That's how programming has always worked.

Seriously. The sky isn't falling. Nothing will change with the way apps are programmed and things are already being updated to take advantage of the 2 in the Air 2 and the 4 in the 12.9" Pro.

 

[Max(IT)]

Good news, and hardly unexpected, about the iPhone SE.
Not so good about the iPad Pro: 4 Gb would have been the right solution.

 

[Michael Goff]

My iPhone 6 is still running great! But I'm so tempted to get an SE.

I was going to buy this iPad pro 9.7" but not now after hearing it's slower than the larger model. Why would a newer product be slower?!!!!!' Big mistake. Unforgivable actually. No sale for me.
I'll wait for iPad mini 5

It's faster, much faster, than the product it replaces.

 

[AlexJoda]

I was trying to overlook the lack of 3D Touch and talk myself into this, but now that we know the ram is only 2GB and the processor is underclocked, this is a definite pass for me! With sales tax and accessories, we're talking about an $1,100+ tablet with a mobile OS. Why would anyone buy this over a proper laptop/ PC??? (Even one that's five years old.) Apple seems really determined to kill off the iPad. It's clear to me they don't know what the hell they're doing. Time for some new creative blood. "This is sad." :/

Maybe they need to offer an iPad SE to improve sales! The iPhone SE hit the spot......

 

[Noctilux.95]

I would have preferred the faster processor/4-gb memory over the stupid 12mp camera. I wanna slap people shooting pics with iPad's, specially with the flapping cases.

 

[Adelphos33]

Better yet, Apple should let the customer design the iPad Pro like they would a Macbook - let the customer choose RAM, storage, camera quality, screen technology, cell capability, etc. Nevertheless, this iPad Pro should include 4GB RAM - all in, the model could cost well over $1,000, and therefore should last for five years or more. Adding more RAM would help with that.

 

[wolfboy]

Let's be honest here people:

Everyone was praising the Air 2 because of it's incredible speed and the night and day difference between caused by the RAM. Now the 13" iPad has 4GB of RAM and suddenly 2GB is unbearable? I'll admit that charing $150 more and not adding the RAM is annoying, but speaking from experience I have almost NO issues with an Air 2. I could have 8 Safari table open, 4 other smaller apps, play a 3D game and come back to Safari the next day and all my tabs where there. Sure, I would have liked 4GB, but I think 2GB is still more than sufficient for now and I don't think the Pro is going to become a hunk of junk.

As for people comparing it to the iPad 3. This iPad has nearly 20x the CPU/GPU power as the iPad 3 with the same screen The A9X is incredibly fast and efficient with less heat, the display is lamented and it has 2GB of RAM which was top of the line 6 months ago. This device is not going to overheat and become a lagging mess like the iPad 3.

The Air 2 was going to be the next "longevity" model - the Pro is 2x as fast with Apple Pencil, why is the Pro now an "iPad 3 failure" when it's even better than the "longevity" model?

And aside from less layers in Procreate (which no one has a number) and the inability to keep more than 15+ tabs open in Safari along with 7 other apps, what negative consequence are you suffering from having 2GB or RAM?

Nobody said its a hunk of junk, but if they're gonna give it the Pro moniker and charge you more for it, then we expect it to live up to that name and include all the pro specs. Apple fully intended for this to be a PC replacement/device for pros, but gimped it of the full 4gb it deserves.

 

[AlexJoda]

im gonna wait until the iphone 7. if that still has an protuding camera i'm OUT. then i will get an adroid. Not that i like that, but apple is simply becoming less and less and less the apple that i have known a couple of years ago. protuding cameras, buggy software, mediocre upgrades in both software and hardware and still asking more and more euro for it.

Maybe they are running out of ideas steve has left in the drawer....

 

[Toltepeceno]

The difference to the Dollar price of $499 looks heavy in this case although I know that that there is no tax with the dollar price...

It's like that most places outside of the us. The se is not up here in mexico yet but the price of the 6 is 700.00 us where it's 549.00 us in the us. Tax would take it up about 50.00 so it's still 100.00 difference.

 

[CrAkD]

That iPad "pro" is a mess. Usb2, 2gb ram, protruding camera. The price cut on the air 2 looks better to me now.

 

[AlexJoda]

So this 9.7" Pro doesn't have a new screen (a better one than the 12" Pro), better camera (again, better than the 12" Pro), and support for Pencil?

Who needs a camera an iPad (that also made it wobble) and the screen is nearly half the size of the iPP 12.9". So why is this better?

 

[Toltepeceno]

Maybe they need to offer an iPad SE to improve sales! The iPhone SE hit the spot......

While it may well hit the spot I would wait and see how it does. The 6 and 6 plus, being larger, really hit the spot.

 

[Max(IT)]

So it's really just an iPad Air 3?
Edit - Okay, SE is sounding like a really good deal now. Better battery, better performance and didn't cheap out on RAM.

Yes it basically is an iPad Air 3. What's wrong with that ? The Pro moniker is just marketing.
The iPad Pro still is a wonderful device faster than the still powerful iPad Air 2.

This is a shameful moneygrab by Apple.The device is nothing more than a Air 3.TC just gave it a "Pro" label and jacked up the price.2 GB of ram and an underclocked A9X prove this is NO pro device in the slightest.Even Surface 3 provides 4 gigs of RAM for sub 500 bucks

Then go buy a Surface 3, and Apple won't grab your money...
Last time I checked the Surface didn't run iOS, so it's useless for me, even for free...

I just read a report on Cult of Mac that says the 9.7 iPad Pro is slower then the 12.9 inch even though they have the same processor. They think it could be under clocked to control the heat in a smaller enclosure orcould be to help with the battery life.

Yep, it's slightly underclocked. Apple is quite careful to keep thermal performance of their devices within limits, virtually without any throttling (ask Samsung and Qualcomm about that...). So a slightly lower SoC frequency in a smaller case is more than expected.

 

[DNichter]

The 9.7 iPad Pro has an A9X, "surround sound" speakers, much better camera, true-tone screen and external keyboard with other accessory support. Does this command a $200 premium? Up to you. But no one's forcing you to buy that over the now $100 discounted iPad Air 2.

What exactly did people want the new 9.7 iPad to have? Obviously not much was going to change from what we saw with the release of the 12.9 iPad Pro a few months ago.

4GB ram and I'd be happy. 2GB, iOS10, and iPad specific software features will severely limit this device in a year.

 

[Michael Goff]

Nobody said its a hunk of junk, but if they're gonna give it the Pro moniker and charge you more for it, then we expect it to live up to that name and include all the pro specs. Apple fully intended for this to be a PC replacement/device for pros, but gimped it of the full 4gb it deserves.

I thought that the Pro moniker meant Pencil and Smart Connector.