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After loading up twenty. I don't think you get the point. If a Air 2 can keep 4-6 tabs, the 9.7 Pro can. And the Air 2 can keep 4-6 tabs. Heck, my 6S Plus can keep 4-6 tabs open and it has the same amount of RAM. It just couldn't do it if I opened up 20 before going back to the start.

Semantics aside - at $599 it's not far off a real laptop/ultrabook - wouldn't have thought loading 20 tabs is such a challenge; without the 3-4GB RAM - I just have hesitation to think of the 9.7 Pro as anything more than a consumption device that's all. :)
 
Oh boy. No 3D touch, still using an iOS software on the device aimed for PRO's, and only giving these iPads 2GB, as opposed to the 4GB, for PRO's.

I want to see who Apple thinks these pros are. Drop out students from art schools fiddling around with their Apple Pencils at Starbucks?
 
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Here is some more hypocrisy from Apple.

So they intro an iPhone 6S/+ which includes 3D Touch. Many have argued it's just a long tap/hold press. But no it's more than that. OK. So those animated gifs aka Live Photos require iPhone 6S series to work right. You have to hard press the screen so they move. They can't be done on an iPhone 6 or below. Because it's a 3D Touch requirement.

Now they have the same recycled iPhone 5S aka iPhone SE releasing that DOES have support for Live Photos. In fact all you do is tap and hold the screen. WTF? So does this work for all the iPHones now? Tap and hold for Live Photos? I guess they really mean the iPHone SE can TAKE Live Photos with the camera so that's why it can use Live Photos.

This is just stupid marketing fluff again. The 3D Touch was nothing I thought was awesome or must have. In fact I can see how tap and hold works the same way. But it's only OK if Apple does it because hey they said so. Look at the same thing F.Lux app does that night shift copied. SAME THING. But F.lux isn't allow while Apple is ok. Same with the iPhone 4 shutter button using volume key back in the day. Apps that use the volume keys for a shutter button is a NO-NO; but later Apple implements this and it's all of a sudden awesome.

Apple is full of crap.


Since everything Apple does apparently sucks, why keep buying their products?
 
Now is the time I wish I had small fingers. The price and specs are good, can't make it on a 4" phone though.:( I do think it's good to have choices in sizes, hopefully they will keep the 3.

Funny I don't see those that like bigger phones throwing tantrums over the announcement of a smaller phone.

Oops, I was thinking the posts got automatically merged. Sorry.

I do have small fingers so this is a tough decision for me!! The design on the SE is brilliant too.
 
If you're writing code differently for a 2 GB device versus a 4 GB device, you're doing it wrong.

IOS devices don't have swap memory like Windows, so you do have to code your apps differently on iOS for 4gb vs 2gb devices. This just fragmented iOS hardware and app developers will just develop to the lowest common denominator, limiting pro apps to 2gb ram.
 
Anyone know what the difference is between the SE LTE and 6S advanced LTE speeds are? That's the only feature I wish the SE had, but other than that it sounds like a great deal.
 
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I am not supposed to say anything that may be seen as trollish. But I really want to know why people stick with this company when their specs are so sub par. Just locked into the eco-system? Love the design? I don't get it. Anyways, I've almost sold all my apple products. I'd let the door hit me on the way out but the new doors from apple only have 1 hinge and are 50% slower than normal doors so I should be able to avoid that.
 
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I do have small fingers so this is a tough decision for me!! The design on the SE is brilliant too.

I can understand that. I am glad there is another choice. If I had small fingers I would consider it a viable choice, however I have thick fingers and have problems with 5.7" phones. Seriously. Sometimes I think 6 or larger would be better for me. Rhumatoid Arthritis doesn't help either.
 
Semantics aside - at $599 it's not far off a real laptop/ultrabook - wouldn't have thought loading 20 tabs is such a challenge; without the 3-4GB RAM - I just have hesitation to think of the 9.7 Pro as anything more than a consumption device that's all. :)
Err, isn't web browsing a pretty "consumptiony" thing? Stop consuming 20 tabs at once and create something with your A9X :D The difference here is the lack of swap file anyway. I wonder if with the flash interface improvements on A9 devices, Apple couldn't try out just a smidgen of a virtual memory swap file, or just implement it for Safari for the tab-complainers (would slow things down when it was needed, though).
I am not supposed to say anything that may be seen as trollish. But I really want to know why people stick with this company when their specs are so sub par. Just locked into the eco-system? Love the design? I don't get it. Anyways, I've almost sold all my apple products. I'd let the door hit me on the way out but the new doors from apple only have 1 hinge and are 50% slower than normal doors so I should be able to avoid that.
"Their specs"? This is one spec. Another is the A9X one of the best overall ARM SoC's on the market. The overall product is the final answer.
You're basically saying "Waaah I don't like Apple products so why doesn't everyone else not like them too?"
 
Err, isn't web browsing a pretty "consumptiony" thing? Stop consuming 20 tabs at once and create something with your A9X :D The difference here is the lack of swap file anyway. I wonder if with the flash interface improvements on A9 devices, Apple couldn't try out just a smidgen of a virtual memory swap file, or just implement it for Safari for the tab-complainers (would slow things down when it was needed, though).

"Their specs"? This is one spec. Another is the A9X one of the best overall ARM SoC's on the market. The overall product is the final answer.
You're basically saying "Waaah I don't like Apple products so why doesn't everyone else not like them too?"

Good point. Note to self: remember to install Chrome.
 
I am not supposed to say anything that may be seen as trollish. But I really want to know why people stick with this company when their specs are so sub par. Just locked into the eco-system? Love the design? I don't get it. Anyways, I've almost sold all my apple products. I'd let the door hit me on the way out but the new doors from apple only have 1 hinge and are 50% slower than normal doors so I should be able to avoid that.

Some of the stuff I will stay with. I got rid of my iphone and went to the moto x pure. I like it a lot better, in a phone I like android. Will look if I want to go 6s plus after the 7 comes out. Right now I love android for my phone and it runs excellent. I didn't care for marshmallow so went back to lollipop as I like it a lot better.

Ipad. I went to an nvidia shield for a while and I don't think android tablets are ready. Back on the ipad. Might consider windows in the future but when it comes to tablet right now it's hard to bet an ipad, well at least the air 2 and mini 4. I might also consider a chromebook as an ipad replacement.

OSX. I like the ui of osx a lot and I like running both systems, osx and windows 10, but don't know what the future will bring. Hopefully it will be a couple of years before I decide and apple will change directions.

So while I am kind of straddling the brands nothing is cut and dried.
 
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Question: in a blind-test with everything but the screen covered up - would most people be able to tell the difference between A9x w/ 2GB RAM, and A8x w/ 2GB RAM?

Multicore score wise A8x isn't far off A9x due to the tri-core config; okay the single core performance is different and file /RAM performance difference will be probably noticeable.
 
Oh no! It'll now be a failure because you don't buy. What ever will Apple do. Guess I'll go cry on the thousands of shares of stock I own.

Why get so upset over people making choices of what to do with their money?

WOW dude, put down the kool aid for a second. No need to be a jerk. This is a forum where people are allowed to express their disappointment towards Apple.

I wouldn't hold my breath, some take everything said about apple personal. They consider forums like this for only cheerleading. I will never understand it.
 
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