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What is the 7.85" iPad?

  • An Anti-Apple Anti-Jobs Abomination

    Votes: 77 39.9%
  • The Post-Jobs Device that Will Save Apple from itself

    Votes: 116 60.1%

  • Total voters
    193
I think the current iPad is too big, I'd probably sell mine and get the smaller one if it comes out.
 
My prediction.

7.85" iPad mini with 16GB (only capacity available).
A5X Single Core with dual graphics chip.
1024 x 768 Display
16GB WiFi - $279USD
16GB WiFi + 3G $399USD
Available in a range of colours. (think iPod Nanoesque colours).
Most likely plastic unibody construction to reduce cost of manufacture.

Apple will then kill of the 9.7" 16GB WiFi iPad 2.

Watch as schools buy these things by the boatload.

it wouldn't use the A5x that's still too large of a chip. The A5 in the cheaper iPad 2 & Apple TV 3rd Gen is a smaller 32nm chip. I suspect this is one they'd use.
 
I think your wording is pretty extreme.

Steve Jobs was an integral part of the company but he did not do it all alone. The collective company, much like the Borg, assimilate all the genius and work as a team to produce products that they love and believe in (as a team).

If Apple decides to put out a smaller iPad, I am sure they will find a market for it. The world won't stop and babies won't die because there is a smaller version out there for consumers.
 
I think your wording is pretty extreme.

Steve Jobs was an integral part of the company but he did not do it all alone. The collective company, much like the Borg, assimilate all the genius and work as a team to produce products that they love and believe in (as a team).

If Apple decides to put out a smaller iPad, I am sure they will find a market for it. The world won't stop and babies won't die because there is a smaller version out there for consumers.

Its not about what it is, it's about what it represents.
 
Its not about what it is, it's about what it represents.

If you read the autobiography, you, like myself, would have come to the conclusion that Steve Jobs was possibly manic depressive with strong bouts of obsessiveness. He is probably the only man in history that could not only succeed but flourish with those demons riding his back.

You may also remember reading that he was very famous for taking his coworkers ideas which they had fielded to him, ignoring them for a short while and then coming back at the team like they were his own ideas.

In my OPINION where Steve Jobs excelled was seeing what was available and morphing it to work in a very elegant solutions etc. But nowhere to my limited understanding of the man did I ever get the impression that he eventually could not be reasoned with or swayed by some of his team experts. Translation there were NO certainties with the man, other than his hatred of Android.

A smaller iPad would no more diminish the man, his company, or his belief in his team. You do the man a disservice to paint him as narrowminded and unchangeable as you have.
 
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Wrathwitch

MacAttacka is also the guy that postulates that it's unfair for Apple to give the same amount of free iCloud storage to all users. He believes a purchaser of a 64GB iPads should bet more storage.

We can talk to we're blue in the face but I think we're dealing with a person who has a wide chasm between logic and reality.
 
If you read the autobiography, you, like myself, would have come to the conclusion that Steve Jobs was possibly manic depressive with strong bouts of obsessiveness. He is probably the only man in history that could not only succeed but flourish with those demons riding his back.

You may also remember reading that he was very famous for taking his coworkers ideas which they had fielded to him, ignoring them for a short while and then coming back at the team like they were his own ideas.

In my OPINION where Steve Jobs excelled was seeing what was available and morphing it to work in a very elegant solutions etc. But nowhere to my limited understanding of the man did I ever get the impression that he eventually could not be reasoned with or swayed by some of his team experts. Translation there were NO certainties with the man, other than his hatred of Android.

A smaller iPad would no more diminish the man, his company, or his belief in his team. You do the man a disservice to paint him as narrowminded and unchangeable as you have.

The Kindle Fire fad is fading fast and so will this iPad mini nonesense.

Trust me, this time next month you'll all be drooling over another phanton iPad iteration and then later it will be something else. This is just Apple's usual smoke and mirrors tricks to keep people guessing. Its all good fun so enjoy the speculation but dont take it too seriously.
 
Notice his responses implore you to trust him yet he has no technical reason to support his statements.

He bases his foundation for the lack of a smaller iPad with stuff like "It's what it represents"

Representation is subjective.


The OP has a lack of good argumentation, little technical knowledge to utilize as foundation and is fond of hyperbole (using Abomination) and lack of any unique insight (tends to go Jobsian when making his point)

So again I ask. Why should we trust a guy that struggles to form a cohesive argument over

The Korea Times
Samsung Securities
John Gruber
Digitimes
Wall St Journal

All who have mentioned Apple investigating a smaller form factor iPad. Boggles the mind.
 
Wrathwitch

MacAttacka is also the guy that postulates that it's unfair for Apple to give the same amount of free iCloud storage to all users. He believes a purchaser of a 64GB iPads should bet more storage.

We can talk to we're blue in the face but I think we're dealing with a person who has a wide chasm between logic and reality.

to each his or her own I guess.

The Kindle Fire fad is fading fast and so will this iPad mini nonesense.

Trust me, this time next month you'll all be drooling over another phanton iPad iteration and then later it will be something else. This is just Apple's usual smoke and mirrors tricks to keep people guessing. Its all good fun so enjoy the speculation but dont take it too seriously.

Regardless, I still stand by my initial reply that your wording is overly harsh and perhaps a bit excessive!

abomination [əˌbɒmɪˈneɪʃən]
n
1. a person or thing that is disgusting
2. an action that is vicious, vile, etc.
3. intense loathing

over a media viewing device?
 
to each his or her own I guess.



Regardless, I still stand by my initial reply that your wording is overly harsh and perhaps a bit excessive!

abomination [əˌbɒmɪˈneɪʃən]
n
1. a person or thing that is disgusting
2. an action that is vicious, vile, etc.
3. intense loathing

over a media viewing device?

You just lack passion and perspective.
 
Wow, so the Kindle fire gets some slight buzz and the doom mongers are out urging Apple to save themselves by producing a 7.85" iPad.

Well it's not happening. I could list many reasons why but I think it's safe to conclude it would be an abomination that goes against everything that Apple has built itself upon recently.

Jobs planned the iPad to be the iPad and there was no room in his vision for any iPad mini. If cook feels this will be a neat way to fill Jobs' shoes and make his mark I think this is the beginning of the end of Apple as we know. It would be a sign that they'll just become another Samsung style hardware manufacturer churning out every device for every whim hoping to hit a winner every now and then.

Edit: Ive added a poll because polls are cool.

breathe in....breathe out....

it will be okay O.g. Apple hipster fan. Youll still have your ipad. Wont effect your experience at all if they decided to
 
What surprises me about this threads how one sides the opinions are despite the fact the poll results have been split pretty much 50/50 throughout. Where are you people?
First, it is not 50/50.

Second, don't put any faith in a poll that looks like it was written by either a kidnapper or kindergartner (take your pick).





Michael
 
OK, but to the actual point -- Does the question of developers having to update their apps really have much to do with the rumored 7.85" iPad? Does that represent much of an actual hurdle?
I think Apple will definitely add another category for the iPad mini. I don't think they would go so far as to disallow iPad 1/2 apps on the mini. But I surely think they will let devs have iPad mini specific versions of their app, or include it as part of a universal app.

However, then we are getting kind of ridiculous with universal apps. They already waste space. I think Apple needs to change how they work and allow the shedding of resources not needed during installation. I think they just need to have devs specify which resources are actually needed for each kind of installation.




Michael
 
You just lack passion and perspective.

Apparently so does every single other person in this thread. In case you haven't noticed, you are utterly alone in your view. Yes, it must be true, we are 70 passionless, perspectiveless people in this thread, vs. one visionary who knows Apple better than Apple.

Wait a sec. Do you dress up like Steve Jobs in your basement? Admit it.
 
Apparently so does every single other person in this thread. In case you haven't noticed, you are utterly alone in your view. Yes, it must be true, we are 70 passionless, perspectiveless people in this thread, vs. one visionary who knows Apple better than Apple.

Wait a sec. Do you dress up like Steve Jobs in your basement? Admit it.

Too funny
 
I think Apple will definitely add another category for the iPad mini. I don't think they would go so far as to disallow iPad 1/2 apps on the mini. But I surely think they will let devs have iPad mini specific versions of their app, or include it as part of a universal app.

However, then we are getting kind of ridiculous with universal apps. They already waste space. I think Apple needs to change how they work and allow the shedding of resources not needed during installation. I think they just need to have devs specify which resources are actually needed for each kind of installation.

I don't at all think Apple would _disallow_ developers from optimizing apps to run on the "mini". I just don't think that it would be immediately required for developers to modify their apps to accommodate the release of a 7.85 screen as some of the more nervous folk on this site are trying to suggest.

It's easy enough to visually the 7.85 just by taking iPad screenshots and scaling them on a laptop screen or pinter.
You can even simulate the app touch interface scaling by using an iPad, and going to a page like this:http://guides.macrumors.com/Help:Contents
Zoom in until the navigation box on the left is right about 1 inch. That right there is what the touch interface on most apps scaled to the 7.85 screen will be. People can poke a it and see how it actually works. A few minutes spent doing this sort of thing will reveal quite a lot --- whereas listening to all the wailing and hand waving that goes on these forums, generally will not.

Anyway, as far as I can see, Apple can just release the iPad mini, and it will pretty well work with the current ecosystem. There's time after to make it work better, and adapt the universal app problem that you point out.
There will certainly be more sizes coming up -- iPad Biggie next year?
 
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I don't at all think Apple would _disallow_ developers from optimizing apps to run on the "mini". I just don't think that it would be immediately required for developers to modify their apps to accommodate the release of a 7.85 screen as some of the more nervous folk on this site are trying to suggest.
Yes, Apple would never do that. Heck, they allowed--and still do--iPhone apps on the iPad. Even though there were iPad apps at release, I was still happy I could run my iPhone apps. And that really did look poor, which would not be the case here.




Michael
 
A 7.85 mini Ipad would be useless as a video device. Considering that black bars take up huge amount of space on the current Ipad that would leave a wide screen height close to the current ipod touch! If Apple want to compete at the low end why dont they make a wide screen 7.85 tablet so that people can at least watch movies without blinking or straining their eyes? Just have it tied into Itunes and services like Netflix and also a music player with basic web browser.
 
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