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Foldables are niche, making up around 2% of all global smartphone sales.
Remember when apple said that their aim for the iPhone was to hold 1% of the phone market?
Foldables hold 2% of the market. But probably a way way higher percentage of the phones that cost more than €1500. And that is a nice place to be. It used to be on these forums we’d say that it didn’t matter that Mac’s only held a couple of percents of the marketshare of personal computers. They held half the marketshare of computers above a €1000 and that’s where the big profits were.
Now we’re brushing off the ascending form faster coming in from that side of the market. This isn’t cheap netbooks, this is -for most people- aspirational devices. Even if apple sells only a couple, it’s better for them to be there than not.
 
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That may be true for a Z-Fold-sized device, but it's not the case for a Z-Flip form factor. The Z-Flip has a 6.9" screen, yet is smaller in every dimension than a typical mens' bifold wallet, and is thus more pocketable than any standard smartphone.

And women with small hands have commented that, unlike the case with any current standard smartphone, they can talk on the Z-Flip while holding it comfortably (in its folded state) with one hand.

Essentially, you've fallen victim to the very fallacy you warned against. You're conflating what does or doesn't work for you with what does or doesn't work for others:


Myself, I don't want a small foldable--I want another Mini. But I recognize that what I want isn't necessarily what others want.
I'm not conflating anything. My point that I have repeated all along is that a foldable smartphone makes too many compromises to compete with non-foldable smartphones and tablets, and will be relegated as niche. Compromises like a plastic screen, its squared off aspect ratio, design when two phones are sandwiched together, etc. There have been declining demand in certain markets for foldable/flip phones as well as an objective measure. Demand for foldable flip phones is under pressure... shipments are falling in some key markets (e.g. India), as cost, fragility, and niche appeal limit broader adoption despite some continued interest.
 
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When don't they? Has anyone said, 'this screen is too big, wish it was smaller' IF portability or space is not a concern? (yes, I know, when portability is a concern some like smaller screens, if only a smaller screen could unfold to a larger screen). I expect you to get quite pedantic here.

But I find the iPhone Pro Max screen too small for prolonged web browsing. Would love a fold then.



2% of a really big number is still a big number. Not a flop.



Which is it? A flop or a niche? because those aren't even close to the same thing. You seem to be trying to state they are equivalent for your 'objective facts', but calling a 'cat' a 'dog' doesnt make the cat into a dog.

It will be a niche, yes. A flop, no. I define flop as to Apple not seeing a profit materialize and stops making them.

Btw, the Mac Studio is definitely a niche. It sells well enough that Apple is on the 3rd iteration. Not a flop.

You play loosely with language, you also use 'compromise' to mean 'flawed.' Again, nope. I would think a captain of digital industry such as yourself would know every single product made, digital or material, is a compromise. telll me one that is not. Heck even the Mona Lisa was a compromise from a larger canvas to what is essentially a doodle of Leonardo's. Folks actually in industry come up with user specs that inherently contain compromises. Just saying.



Shrugs, is it really a full-on competition, slab vs foldable, or two different markets in similar spaces? Semantics maybe, in the end doesn't matter. It is clear that Apple likes to sell expensive products to people with deep pockets, to date these people have often been buying iPhone Pros whether they need them or not. But they are getting bored, they want 'innovation' so Apple is courting them by giving them 'choice', not 'competition.' The iPhone Air is expensive and aimed to give iPhone Pro owners a choice from just next years Pro. Likewise the Fold will be expensive and will give the deep pocket crowd another choice to spend on. Not a flop.



Not sure exactly what you are saying, but my go to device is an iPad mini. I own an MBA, a MBP, a Mac Studio with two ASD's, two iPad pros, the 13 and 11, the aforementioned iPad mini, and yes, an iPhone Pro Max, and the majority of my screen time is on my mini. I like the form factor for casual reading in a variety of places, easy to hold, big enough screen to contain more than a few sentences, you get the idea (I hope), but I cant always carry it on me. For me, my iPhone Pro Max is the compromise I use it as a phone (shocking), sometimes a camera, and its portable so it can fit in my pocket and don't need a backpack And in a pinch I can use it to read email and even occasionally MR. But I much prefer the browsing experience on my iPad mini. following along? I carry a Pro Max, so I have accepted the bulk, but I would love a bigger screen. Wow, if only it folded up to fit in my pocket, but I could open it no matter where I was in the fricking world and use it like I use my mini. What a concept!



So? For productivity my goto is my Mac Studio if I am at home, the MBP if I am in the office, and the MBA if I am on the road. For web browsing my goto is the aforementioned iPad mini. I use the iPad Pros primarily for sitting on the deck enjoying the view while selecting photos to edit or throw out (later on the Mac).



I hear you. I have a Stanley steamer, and a Lamborghini. Oh and a horse and buggy. There are essentially the same thing, though the fuel and waste products vary. 4 wheels. locomotion.

Not clear what point you are even trying to make. but yeah. there are differences in what those devices could do that outweigh the superficial similarities.



Yep a new concept that people have been talking about (and wishing for) for over a decade, decades if you count Isaac Asimov, and which hit the market 6 years ago. There is a lot of pent up demand for a decent fold, and typically Apple releases decent.


Oh didnt quote this but too good to pass up commenting on...

"People use smartphones for its intended purpose: it’s mobile. A key driver of why people use smartphones is its portability and ability to use it with one hand."

One would think a titan of industry could afford a pro max. An oft repeated criticism of the Pro Max is it is too big to use one handed. I know I have never used mine one handed. Okay, maybe 0.05% of the time. In the car I use Siri. Most places I hold with one hand and operate with the other. And I am not alone.

You make a lot of statements you consider as objective but which are opinion and often wrong. I would love a smaller phone that I could use one handed comfortably but unfolded to give me an iPad mini experience.

To conclude. I reject your definition of 'flop' to be a 'niche.' Apple will make them. They will sell. There already are a product category, in time they will be for Apple too. They don't have to take over mainstream to be a success.
Foldables aren’t failing to exist, but after seven generations they’re still under 2% of the market because most people see the cost, bulk, durability, competition in relation to other dedicated devices etc. issues as outweighing the benefits. That’s why I call them niche rather than mainstream — they’ll sell to enthusiasts, but the average buyer keeps choosing a regular smartphone. Apple might make money on them, but that doesn’t change the reality of limited adoption.
 
You could apply all the same arguments to the original iPad and claim it would fail. It was outclassed by existing devices, it was heavier and thicker and unwieldier than a phone or iPod touch, without decent software there was no productivity gain…guess what? The iPad didn’t fail. Your production about the Vision Pro is also laughably early to evaluate. The iPhone wasn’t born a huge success. The Mac was a dud on arrival. The watch didn’t get good until series three. When we’re five generations in or apple has cancelled the range we can evaluate if nobody wanted a Vision Pro.

But the real reason your argument fails though, is saying that “it solves nothing: nobody is asking for this”. It very much solves things. People want bigger displays but not necessarily bigger devices that can’t fit in their pockets. Literally millions of people have been asking for years for apple to jump on the folding wagon. people are asking about it. But even if they didn’t, I know of a famous guy around these parts who said that if you asked people what they wanted, they’d ask for a faster horse. He got rich. Not by making horses faster. And guess who quoted him. Right…
The iPad as a device wasn't flawed in the way that a foldable smartphone is. Steve Jobs said it best at his iPad Keynote unveil that it needed a reason to exist, and for that, it had to be better at a set of things than a smartphone or a desktop/laptop. A foldable smartphone has several compromises that make it worse at many of the things non-foldable smartphones or tablets are good at.
 
I’ll 100% buy it unless it only has a single camera or is ridiculously priced. If it’s priced similar to the Galaxy Fold, I’m in. Best of both worlds—an iPad mini + iPhone that is pocketable is exactly what I want.
 
When don't they? Has anyone said, 'this screen is too big, wish it was smaller' IF portability or space is not a concern? (yes, I know, when portability is a concern some like smaller screens, if only a smaller screen could unfold to a larger screen). I expect you to get quite pedantic here.

But I find the iPhone Pro Max screen too small for prolonged web browsing. Would love a fold then.



2% of a really big number is still a big number. Not a flop.



Which is it? A flop or a niche? because those aren't even close to the same thing. You seem to be trying to state they are equivalent for your 'objective facts', but calling a 'cat' a 'dog' doesnt make the cat into a dog.

It will be a niche, yes. A flop, no. I define flop as to Apple not seeing a profit materialize and stops making them.

Btw, the Mac Studio is definitely a niche. It sells well enough that Apple is on the 3rd iteration. Not a flop.

You play loosely with language, you also use 'compromise' to mean 'flawed.' Again, nope. I would think a captain of digital industry such as yourself would know every single product made, digital or material, is a compromise. telll me one that is not. Heck even the Mona Lisa was a compromise from a larger canvas to what is essentially a doodle of Leonardo's. Folks actually in industry come up with user specs that inherently contain compromises. Just saying.



Shrugs, is it really a full-on competition, slab vs foldable, or two different markets in similar spaces? Semantics maybe, in the end doesn't matter. It is clear that Apple likes to sell expensive products to people with deep pockets, to date these people have often been buying iPhone Pros whether they need them or not. But they are getting bored, they want 'innovation' so Apple is courting them by giving them 'choice', not 'competition.' The iPhone Air is expensive and aimed to give iPhone Pro owners a choice from just next years Pro. Likewise the Fold will be expensive and will give the deep pocket crowd another choice to spend on. Not a flop.



Not sure exactly what you are saying, but my go to device is an iPad mini. I own an MBA, a MBP, a Mac Studio with two ASD's, two iPad pros, the 13 and 11, the aforementioned iPad mini, and yes, an iPhone Pro Max, and the majority of my screen time is on my mini. I like the form factor for casual reading in a variety of places, easy to hold, big enough screen to contain more than a few sentences, you get the idea (I hope), but I cant always carry it on me. For me, my iPhone Pro Max is the compromise I use it as a phone (shocking), sometimes a camera, and its portable so it can fit in my pocket and don't need a backpack And in a pinch I can use it to read email and even occasionally MR. But I much prefer the browsing experience on my iPad mini. following along? I carry a Pro Max, so I have accepted the bulk, but I would love a bigger screen. Wow, if only it folded up to fit in my pocket, but I could open it no matter where I was in the fricking world and use it like I use my mini. What a concept!



So? For productivity my goto is my Mac Studio if I am at home, the MBP if I am in the office, and the MBA if I am on the road. For web browsing my goto is the aforementioned iPad mini. I use the iPad Pros primarily for sitting on the deck enjoying the view while selecting photos to edit or throw out (later on the Mac).



I hear you. I have a Stanley steamer, and a Lamborghini. Oh and a horse and buggy. There are essentially the same thing, though the fuel and waste products vary. 4 wheels. locomotion.

Not clear what point you are even trying to make. but yeah. there are differences in what those devices could do that outweigh the superficial similarities.



Yep a new concept that people have been talking about (and wishing for) for over a decade, decades if you count Isaac Asimov, and which hit the market 6 years ago. There is a lot of pent up demand for a decent fold, and typically Apple releases decent.


Oh didnt quote this but too good to pass up commenting on...

"People use smartphones for its intended purpose: it’s mobile. A key driver of why people use smartphones is its portability and ability to use it with one hand."

One would think a titan of industry could afford a pro max. An oft repeated criticism of the Pro Max is it is too big to use one handed. I know I have never used mine one handed. Okay, maybe 0.05% of the time. In the car I use Siri. Most places I hold with one hand and operate with the other. And I am not alone.

You make a lot of statements you consider as objective but which are opinion and often wrong. I would love a smaller phone that I could use one handed comfortably but unfolded to give me an iPad mini experience.

To conclude. I reject your definition of 'flop' to be a 'niche.' Apple will make them. They will sell. There already are a product category, in time they will be for Apple too. They don't have to take over mainstream to be a success.
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Foldables aren’t failing to exist, but after seven generations they’re still under 2% of the market because most people see the cost, bulk, durability, competition in relation to other dedicated devices etc. issues as outweighing the benefits. That’s why I call them niche rather than mainstream — they’ll sell to enthusiasts, but the average buyer keeps choosing a regular smartphone. Apple might make money on them, but that doesn’t change the reality of limited adoption.

Yada yada yada , niche is not a flop. Wasn’t that your word? Flop? So whatever, you’re just repeating yourself.

There is a growing market. You’re just offering a snapshot in time and ignoring history. But who really cares about people arguing in MR?

Not that I care, but you’re wrong. I’ve already explained why. The fact you are just repeating yourself tells me you even know you’re misstating the case. For the clicks I guess.
 
Honestly, I find the Pixel 10 Pro Fold to be an appealing device. However, after careful consideration, I’ve realized that what truly excites me about it is the software features. I would love if iOS could support side-by-side multitasking. For instance, I could browse a website on the top half of the screen while taking notes on the bottom. Sadly, this functionality is limited to iPadOS or macOS.

For this reason, Mac has become my favorite product. iPhone is just meh.
 
Yada yada yada , niche is not a flop. Wasn’t that your word? Flop? So whatever, you’re just repeating yourself.

There is a growing market. You’re just offering a snapshot in time and ignoring history. But who really cares about people arguing in MR?

Not that I care, but you’re wrong. I’ve already explained why. The fact you are just repeating yourself tells me you even know you’re misstating the case. For the clicks I guess.
Niche is a flop for Apple.
 
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Screen size defines how a device is used. So ya, people actually do want and need a small screen like on a smartphone for portability and one handed use. Having it fold out as has been repeated makes for a compromised tablet.
 
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I'll reserve judgment till I see one in-hand. However the presumably smaller form factor might be what it takes to make me finally give up my 13 mini.
 
There’s a 50% chance it will flop. I do agree with you though. It’s an awkward form factor, and it feels like the inner display isn’t that much bigger to be worth all the contraption.
 
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I’ve been waiting on an iPhone foldable for a few years now and I simply won’t switch to an Android device. The football team I support is a 4-5 hour train journey and as I return the same day, I don’t and can’t, carry an iPad/MacBook with me and take it in to the stadium!

Having a pocketable device that I can use the front screen like a normal phone for texting/calls etc, but open up when travelling to watch a movie or watch YouTube ticks every box for me personally and gives me the best of both worlds.

Doing a bit of surfing while enjoying a few pints down my local on my day off would also come in handy. I would still use the device folded like a normal phone the majority of the time no question, but having the option to unfold it and enjoy a bigger screen than a pro max on occasions absolutely has its benefits.
 
I'm not conflating anything. My point that I have repeated all along is that a foldable smartphone makes too many compromises to compete with non-foldable smartphones and tablets, and will be relegated as niche. Compromises like a plastic screen, its squared off aspect ratio, design when two phones are sandwiched together, etc. There have been declining demand in certain markets for foldable/flip phones as well as an objective measure. Demand for foldable flip phones is under pressure... shipments are falling in some key markets (e.g. India), as cost, fragility, and niche appeal limit broader adoption despite some continued interest.
The problem is you damage your credibilty when you make absolutist statements that are demonstrably false, making your post look more like a screed than a considered evaluation of the market. For instance:

It solves nothing: nobody is asking for this. It doesn’t address a real consumer painpoint.
That's demonstrably false, since real customers are spending their own money to buy various foldables.

Now you can argue volumes, but if you wanted to do that you would have said "Sales volumes of foldables are [cite figures and sources here]....".

But that's not what you did. Instead you simply denied the reality that some customers are not only asking for these, they are actually buying them, indicating there are pain points they solve for some people.

That's why I said you were conflating your views (that they offer no advantage) with views generally (which includes some for whom these phones do serve a purpose and solve pain points).
 
If what comes out is similar to the fold 7 it will sell well. I am interested probably at gen 2. Gen one I’ll let them work the kinks out.
 
This time next year, Apple will be selling six "current year" iPhone Models

17e
17 (apparently 18/18e will be released in Spring '27)
Air 2
18 Pro
18 Pro Max
Fold

Buy what phone you want or need. Gone are the days we really need to look at what individual model "flops" or not. More choice is better. Some will have no interest in Fold. Others will buy Folds exclusively until the next form factor come out. As of now I have no interest in a folding phone, but others will love it. Who cares. Buy what you want.

I slightly corrected your list:

17e
17 (apparently 18/18e will be released in Spring '27)
Air 2
18 Pro
18 Pro Max
Fold Flop
 
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A foldable iPhone will flop. Just like the Apple Vision Pro (AVP), it will be a niche product with limited appeal — not the next big thing. Yes, I know there will be a small brigade of you ready to jump in and tell me they want one, and therefore everyone must want one too. But personal desire doesn’t equal market demand.

When Apple announced the AVP, I made the case here on the forums that it would fail to gain general consumer interest. Not because it’s not impressive tech — it is. But because it lacks broad utility and solves no pressing problem for most people. The same logic applies to a foldable iPhone. Here’s why.

The main reasons I listed why the Apple Vision Pro would be a niche product right after it was announced:
  • It’s an awkward form factor — wearing ski goggles on your face is not how most people want to interact with the world.
  • It simulates reality poorly. The highest-fidelity version of reality is… reality.
  • It doesn’t solve a widespread problem, and instead creates new ones: isolation, weight, cost, battery life, etc.
  • It competes with — but doesn’t outperform — existing Apple devices like iPads, iPhones, and Macs.
  • In short, it has no “reason to live” as a mainstream product other than niche applications.
Now apply the same logic to a foldable iPhone:
  • Compromised form factor: it’s essentially two phones sandwiched together. Thicker. Heavier. Awkward. No matter how sleek Apple tries to make it, the ergonomics will suffer.
  • Display trade-offs: to fold, the screen needs to be plastic — not glass and optics will be degraded. That means lower durability, more scratches, and likely a visible crease, even if faint.
  • No clear productivity gain: it won’t be large enough to replace an iPad Pro for serious work or multitasking. It’s not going to make spreadsheets, document editing, or design work better.
  • It solves nothing: nobody is asking for this. It doesn’t address a real consumer painpoint. It adds complexity to a form factor that’s already perfected: the slab phone.
  • It’s outclassed by existing devices: iPhones are great at being phones. iPads are great at being tablets. Laptops are great at being computers. A foldable iPhone is a master of none.
Yes, I know some of you will say: “But I want one!”

Sure. And that’s fine. Enthusiasts like us often love cutting-edge technology. But if you look at the reasons above, this device has niche appeal at best. It will not capture mainstream consumer demand. Just like AVP, it’ll be a showcase product — a status symbol, a curiosity — not a mainstream device.

I suspect Apple is putting out controlled leaks to throw off the competition and has no intention of releasing a foldable iPhone. If they actually do release such a device, they will have lost the plot.
Going by your logic, there should never have been a tablet: the phone and laptop would have sufficed!
 
Unless they completely redesign and innovate iOS specifically for the inner bigger screen, it’s nothing but a big iPhone when opened. I wouldn't pay $2k+ for it.
They dont have to.. they already have ipados26 and next year 27
 
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The iPad as a device wasn't flawed in the way that a foldable smartphone is. Steve Jobs said it best at his iPad Keynote unveil that it needed a reason to exist, and for that, it had to be better at a set of things than a smartphone or a desktop/laptop. A foldable smartphone has several compromises that make it worse at many of the things non-foldable smartphones or tablets are good at.
That’s besides the point. You said it yourself: it needs to be better at a set of things. And it is. It’s more portable than an iPad. It’s got the screen estate of an iPad mini and the portability of the iPhone. It has form factor versatility (use it as a regular phone. Use it as an iPad mini, use it as a tiny laptop folded at 90%). There you go. Better at a set of things. That it has compromises is not the point since the iPad had those as well, every device is a list of compromises.
 
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Galaxy Fold 7 is insanely popular. A lot of people are saying it's the first folable phone they wpuld seriously consider. It isn't much thicker when folded than the current iPhone 17 pro max. If Apple can pull something like this off, it will sell like hotcakes.

Incidentally, I have friends who have literally delayed upgrading for YEARS as they are jealous of Samsung Galaxy Z Fold and are waiting for Apple to relese a phone like that. I also think Apple can pull split screen multitasking with more than one app open at a time with a foldable. And I disagree that nobody is asking for this/it doesn't solve any problem. Lots of people hate consuming content on a small screen.

It’s not insanely popular by any stretch of imagination
 
It’s not insanely popular by any stretch of imagination
The problem is that there are no clear goalposts here.

It is probably true that foldable phones wont become mainstream in the near future.
But lets be clear, mainstream phones are not the iPhone Pro or Pro Max but $2-300 android phones and maybe the low end iPhones.

The Pro and Pro Max belong to the premium segment in which foldables have more than a fair chance to become main stream.

And there is a very clear market for them. Lawyers, accountants, business executives and so.
I'm a lawyer and use a foldable since the Samsung Galaxy Fold 4. Many of my colleagues are using foldables and also many of my clients. It is quite common that at business meetings most of the phones on the table are foldables.
Why we prefer foldables? Convenience. It is convenient to carry one less device. And we are able and willing to pay for this convenience.
I admit that we are a niche. But quite a lucrative one.
 
A foldable iPhone will flop. Just like the Apple Vision Pro (AVP), it will be a niche product with limited appeal — not the next big thing. Yes, I know there will be a small brigade of you ready to jump in and tell me they want one, and therefore everyone must want one too. But personal desire doesn’t equal market demand.

When Apple announced the AVP, I made the case here on the forums that it would fail to gain general consumer interest. Not because it’s not impressive tech — it is. But because it lacks broad utility and solves no pressing problem for most people. The same logic applies to a foldable iPhone. Here’s why.

The main reasons I listed why the Apple Vision Pro would be a niche product right after it was announced:
  • It’s an awkward form factor — wearing ski goggles on your face is not how most people want to interact with the world.
  • It simulates reality poorly. The highest-fidelity version of reality is… reality.
  • It doesn’t solve a widespread problem, and instead creates new ones: isolation, weight, cost, battery life, etc.
  • It competes with — but doesn’t outperform — existing Apple devices like iPads, iPhones, and Macs.
  • In short, it has no “reason to live” as a mainstream product other than niche applications.
Now apply the same logic to a foldable iPhone:
  • Compromised form factor: it’s essentially two phones sandwiched together. Thicker. Heavier. Awkward. No matter how sleek Apple tries to make it, the ergonomics will suffer.
  • Display trade-offs: to fold, the screen needs to be plastic — not glass and optics will be degraded. That means lower durability, more scratches, and likely a visible crease, even if faint.
  • No clear productivity gain: it won’t be large enough to replace an iPad Pro for serious work or multitasking. It’s not going to make spreadsheets, document editing, or design work better.
  • It solves nothing: nobody is asking for this. It doesn’t address a real consumer painpoint. It adds complexity to a form factor that’s already perfected: the slab phone.
  • It’s outclassed by existing devices: iPhones are great at being phones. iPads are great at being tablets. Laptops are great at being computers. A foldable iPhone is a master of none.
Yes, I know some of you will say: “But I want one!”

Sure. And that’s fine. Enthusiasts like us often love cutting-edge technology. But if you look at the reasons above, this device has niche appeal at best. It will not capture mainstream consumer demand. Just like AVP, it’ll be a showcase product — a status symbol, a curiosity — not a mainstream device.

I suspect Apple is putting out controlled leaks to throw off the competition and has no intention of releasing a foldable iPhone. If they actually do release such a device, they will have lost the plot.

I don't know the Fold 7 seems pretty slick to me as an advocate of small phones.

I believe this is one reason Apple is late to the foldable game, as they want to solve/make a better attempt at this.

It's not meant to be an iPad Pro, if you want what an iPad Pro can do, you buy it. It bridges the gap to those chasing a bigger screen but can get away without getting an iPad, wanting to consolidate devices.

Typical no one asked for this, no one wants a mini or an Air, it's too compromising.

There are plenty of people where their phone is their only computer device. Have no need for a desktop/laptop or an iPad secondary device, but may want more screen real estate when working with certain workloads.
Yeah, a small phone is soo compromising. That’s why people didn’t buy the iPhone from 2007 until 2014…
To me it seems people simply don’t buy what they need, but what they want. People don’t need a big phone, they want the big phone, with the telephoto camera and the larger battery. People don’t need the Pro, they don’t want the normal iPhone.
Small phones are very useful, just not a good sell when for $100 more you can have a „normal“ sized phone with more battery and screen, and another $100 for the Pro. People didn’t buy the mini because for the price, it could t hold up with other phones, not because it was a bad phone per se.
I would have gotten a mini, but the 12 had bad battery life and the 13 still didn’t have that much better cameras. Considering I had a X and a 11 Pro beforehand, I grew reliant on the telephoto, but was disappointed with the ultra wide. So despite the smaller phone being technically a better size for my needs, the cameras and battery were too big of a trade off, conseriding the price.
Nowadays the technology has progressed far enough that we could have a mini with great cameras, battery life and a great screen, as well as super thin, durable and highly versatile foldables.

In reality, my GF has a Flip and will only change to Apple once they support certain software features and they offer a folding phone, because woman’s small pants pockets and weak vision don’t go along too well. She wants a phone that can adapt in screen size, I want a phone I can one hand.
We’re both in the market for a small and a folding iPhone, for good reason.
Difference between us and other people is, status doesn’t really matter and we just know what we want, not what the marketing wants is to want.

OP, the Vision was a flop for obvious reasons you listed, but your assumptions about how usable foldables are can’t hold that true, considering how many generations Samsung and even Google, among others, have released. Apparently someone is buying them.
 
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