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Stop eating bread

Don't eat out as much.

Exercise everyday.

There. I did you better than the health app can offer you.

You can still eat bread, such as rye. If you're going to eat it, at least pick one that's going to be beneficial to you. Also, you don't want to exercise everyday, you body needs rest days. Eating out should be done 1-2 times a month at most, though places like subway are fine as long as you don't load your sandwich up with all the crap that's fatty/greasy (like bacon).
 
Care to elaborate, other than the obvious goal of being first and not providing meaningful comment?

So far all I see is a nicety for health care industry if patients so choose to use this, but overall I find it hard to fathom the majority of people will care enough to track this type of information to even care about Apple's all in one location for putting the info. If American's have proven one thing, it's that they don't care about their health (see obesity epidemic).

Well, I'm not going to speak for "people" in general, but the health app market is a maze of one-off partnerships and compatibilities. And, while Americans' health outcomes are poor, they do definitely care about their health (see the many many billions of dollars spent on self-help and assisted health/fitness products). The problem is not that American's don't want to be healthy; it is that it is (1) too much work, (2) too confusing and fad-riddled, and (3) too hard to see immediate results.

For my own health tracking, I use MyNetDiary for food tracking, but not exercise tracking; I use DigiFit which reads heart rate info from my Scoshe armband for exercise tracking; I use the generically named "Heart Rate" for one-off hearth rate readings; I use MotionX-GPS for hiking outdoors as it has much better maps than DigiFit; I use MyChart to interact with my doctor's office. None of these talk to each other, while there are obvious efficiencies which could be gleaned if they did. Yes, I could pick an exercise app which talks to my food tracking app, or vice versa, but I haven't found a suitable combination. Then there are the other apps which wouldn't talk with either of those even if they talked nicely to each other.

This is exactly the sort of situation that a central repository pattern does well to alleviate. Provide a generic interface for each class of app to work against, and the exercise data (how many calories, not necessarily the intimate details of what I did) can show up in the food tracking app (and vice versa), and two different exercise apps can each write to the exercise log, and the basic health outcomes information can be sent off to my doctor's office were that necessary.

The key pitfalls of such a pattern are poor interface design (designing what can be tracked to the lowest common denominator rather than the 80% rule) and poor information security design (sending every individual snack to your doctor's office will cause people to fudge entering their food intake accurately because sometimes we eat what we know we shouldn't). If Apple has good answers to those, this could very well be a very important improvement in iOS 8.
 
If at all?

Stock prices never seem to rise much, or at all, after announcements, because the people in WS think just like you: If Apple doesn't introduce something absolutely game changing, they believe they're failing.

Fact is, Apple did present lots of awesome new things today, a lot of them which go towards developers, which in turn will be beneficial to users. It's just not as direct as "here's new features for you users".

Plus, surely a lot of these things will be expanded on a bit more with the introduction of the iPhone 6 (and iWatch?), such as the Health app.

Yes but that is IF and that is a BIG IF Apple EVER get around to releasing the Iphone 6 and the Iwatch. I know that people will say that WWDC is mostly about software and I agree. Though the problem is that they can not leave all the hardware till the last 2 or 3 months of the year. There would be too much to get through and they WON'T put them all together. They mostly like different events for products. so we would be talking about at least 4 keynotes and they would be too close together for Apple's liking.
If Tim cook does not actually release all these ton's and ton's of products he keeps talking about soon then he should consider stepping down as people and investors will not trust he can deliver anything apart from mild software.
If Tim was a pizza delivery guy the pizza would be late and cold. Not good really.

I doubt though that there will be any hardware released this year. I think Apple are having too many problems and Tim cook just does not know what to do or how to handle things and I think everything is running too far behind to come out this year. By the time he decides to get off his a** and release any hardware such as Iphone then samsung Galaxy phones and others would have caught up and overtook the Iphone.
Here is to a lousy uninspiring year where Apple have not and will not release any new products hardware wise save from a slight upgraded Macbook Air that was so slight you never noticed it unless you looked really hard.

but we will wait and see, I am right because I am just about always right, but we will see
 
Who knows, maybe it will be an option like iBooks when the update goes live?

There's an App on your iPhone called 'Contacts' it is just like the 'Phone' app but only lists peoples names. I hate it because what's the point? I just click on 'Phone' and have a list of all my contacts PLUS the ability to see favourites, call people, dial numbers, check voicemail. I don't see why Apple don't remove it from the iPhone version of iOS as it's utterly pointless.

But I do agree with you on Newsstand as I don't use it and I also hate cluttering up my iPhone. Would be better served as a free App Store download.

Ah gotcha. Yeah that makes sense. I feel Apple can install a bunch of apps of course and then obviously the user can delete anything they wish. Should always be that way. Just not in their world I suppose. No huge deal though.
 
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So what happened to the passbook style UI that hit the rumor sites? Was that just a fake?
 
So far all I see is a nicety for health care industry if patients so choose to use this...

A nicety, huh?

...but overall I find it hard to fathom the majority of people will care enough to track this type of information to even care about Apple's all in one location for putting the info.

You'd be wrong, then. C.f. the evidence that if you make tracking your health-related information easier, it dramatically improves outcomes. For example, literally dozens of studies over the last 15 years have proven again and again that people get more exercise if their exercise is automatically monitored and reported on, and they are encouraged to improve their habits, even via automated systems. (Fitbit and similar, for example.)

If American's have proven one thing, it's that they don't care about their health (see obesity epidemic).

If you're American and a native English speaker, your grammar is atrocious, and you're trying to use words that you don't understand to make yourself sound educated. If you're not American and not a native English speaker, you sure are judgmental about someplace you know little about, and a subject ("see obesity epidemic") that you know nothing whatsoever about.

My hope is that you're American but not a native English speaker. Then you're just being judgmental and obnoxious and ignorant about your own people, and doing so quite well considering it's in your second language. Yay!

(If you're curious to learn more about the obesity epidemic, and would like to avoid looking like a judgmental ignoramus (see, I can use big words too!) when you're talking about it in the future, you can look here for some interesting information. It turns out that overweight people aren't just overweight because of their massive moral inferiority to you!)

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Stop eating bread

Don't eat out as much.

Exercise everyday.

There. I did you better than the health app can offer you.

Wow! And with ten times the smug superiority of Apple's solution, too. That's, like, a huge bargain!
 
Can't really think much use I could make of it, but knowing John Appleseed has hypertension explains a lot.

I'm sorry, but his medications should have read "Malus sieversii (by mouth once per day)". It is, after all, what keeps the doctor away.
 
How is this innovation?

Apple did two things today:
1) Connected the devices they all ready make
2) Enable developers deeper access to the system

No new innovations from Apple yet again.

At least Tim has learned he is a bumbling idiot and let Craig to most of the talking. Now if only they had more then one guy who could give a presentation maybe I could stay focused.

(and don't call me a troll, I have been buying Apple for longer then most. Just look at the stock price after the announcement today...)

Maybe we will see something exciting at the iPhone/iPad announcements later this year.

you've been shouting apples doom since November 2012. most of your posts are the same thing.
 
A nicety, huh?



You'd be wrong, then. C.f. the evidence that if you make tracking your health-related information easier, it dramatically improves outcomes. For example, literally dozens of studies over the last 15 years have proven again and again that people get more exercise if their exercise is automatically monitored and reported on, and they are encouraged to improve their habits, even via automated systems. (Fitbit and similar, for example.)



If you're American and a native English speaker, your grammar is atrocious, and you're trying to use words that you don't understand to make yourself sound educated. If you're not American and not a native English speaker, you sure are judgmental about someplace you know little about, and a subject ("see obesity epidemic") that you know nothing whatsoever about.

My hope is that you're American but not a native English speaker. Then you're just being judgmental and obnoxious and ignorant about your own people, and doing so quite well considering it's in your second language. Yay!

(If you're curious to learn more about the obesity epidemic, and would like to avoid looking like a judgmental ignoramus (see, I can use big words too!) when you're talking about it in the future, you can look here for some interesting information. It turns out that overweight people aren't just overweight because of their massive moral inferiority to you!)

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Wow! And with ten times the smug superiority of Apple's solution, too. That's, like, a huge bargain!


You are a winner, I'll give you that much. My grammar does suck! I actually have a masters degree in mechanical engineering, and scored perfect on the math portion of both my SAT's and GRE's, but did horrible in the grammar section (390/800!!!, but it was enough to get me into grad school so I don't care). I'm also American. Now that the p!ssing contest is out of the way, I still stand by my statement. I throw most of my own family into the fat American stereotype as well. They are lazy, and this app by itself won't do anything to give people a reason to care about their health. Apple claims they want to enter markets they can change, well do it! But it will take more than an app. Release a wearable that tracks all of your vitals without even having to think about it, allows you to enter your dietary info quickly/easily, estimates calories for you, etc, and THEN people might use it and they can revolutionize another category. Until then, this app by itself is lame.

And for the record, I'm also in the category of those who DO care about their health, I track my steps, blood pressure, food, and use different apps for each currently so I look forward to this app. But as an investor I am still hoping Apple is thinking bigger.
 
You are a winner, I'll give you that much. My grammar does suck! I actually have a masters degree in mechanical engineering, and scored perfect on the math portion of both my SAT's and GRE's, but did horrible in the grammar section (390/800!!!, but it was enough to get me into grad school so I don't care). I'm also American. Now that the p!ssing contest is out of the way, I still stand by my statement. I throw most of my own family into the fat American stereotype as well. They are lazy, and this app by itself won't do anything to give people a reason to care about their health. Apple claims they want to enter markets they can change, well do it! But it will take more than an app. Release a wearable that tracks all of your vitals without even having to think about it, allows you to enter your dietary info quickly/easily, estimates calories for you, etc, and THEN people might use it and they can revolutionize another category. Until then, this app by itself is lame.



And for the record, I'm also in the category of those who DO care about their health, I track my steps, blood pressure, food, and use different apps for each currently so I look forward to this app. But as an investor I am still hoping Apple is thinking bigger.


Yes you really need a wearable device not just this app.
 
You can still eat bread, such as rye. If you're going to eat it, at least pick one that's going to be beneficial to you. Also, you don't want to exercise everyday, you body needs rest days. Eating out should be done 1-2 times a month at most, though places like subway are fine as long as you don't load your sandwich up with all the crap that's fatty/greasy (like bacon).

The first thing I'd say is see your doctor. He'll give you real advice, and hopefully (although doctors are not all perfect) skip the fads.

Second, the most basic general-purpose weight advice is the energy balance equation: Calories In = Calories Out + Calories Stored. If you want to store less fat, increase exercise or decrease food consumption. Most of the rest revolves around making this easy (it is a lot easier to eat 3000 kcal in cake than in celery; it is a lot easier to allow yourself a "treat" every once in a while than to try to completely cut out all the foods you grew up enjoying) and safe (eating a variety of foods will ensure that your lower-than-average diet still provides you with appropriate nutrition for your gender, age, and body type) and keeping your body from counteracting your work (keep metabolism from declining in response to less food, keep muscles from degrading, etc). If you are contemplating buying into the latest diet fad, don't waste your time and money. The simple energy balance equation is the core of any weight loss program worth its salt, so if you want to start doing something now, start with that.

But, again, don't take that advice. Get the same (or perhaps slightly different) advice from your doctor. There are a lot of warning signs to watch out for which should guide your approach to diet and exercise. If you have a food allergy, your doctor can determine that and tell you how to work around it (and, no, most people are NOT allergic to gluten or bread in general, although some really are and for those few it is a debilitating condition). If you have vitamin deficiencies, your doctor can point you to the right dietary changes or supplements (and, no, most people do NOT have vitamin deficiencies and do not benefit at all from a "spectrum" vitamin). There is a reason why every single piece of fitness equipment sold says to see your doctor before starting a new regimen.

In any case, the other thing most doctors will say is that you need to track calories in and calories out. That's where the Health app comes in, because it (so far as we can tell from what little has been shown) brings together various "calories in" inputs and "calories out" inputs along with physical outcomes measures (waist/etc measures, weight, strength, blood pressure, resting heart rate, etc) in one place, which should make both entering and monitoring that data easier (entering easier because there are a lot of apps that are really good at entering in one situation but not others, so if they are all feeding the same database then you can use the one that is easiest for you right now rather than sticking with one all the time so you have a single history).
 
Ahead of WWDC, perhaps one of the most hyped features for iOS 8 was

Time to review our dictionary again:

hype 1 |hīp| informal
noun
extravagant or intensive publicity or promotion: she relied on hype and headlines to stoke up interest in her music.
• a deception carried out for the sake of publicity.
verb [ with obj. ]
promote or publicize (a product or idea) intensively, often exaggerating its importance or benefits: an industry quick to hype its products.

So if this feature was "hyped" before WWDC, then who was doing the "hyping?"
 
I really can't get you.
Feature-wise, this is the biggest keynote Apple has announced since the iPad. This is definitely a long-term play: it doesn't make as much fanfare as a new product, but this is huge! It's all about making ground for what's about to come; a simply brilliant move from Apple.
Honestly, you couldn't ask for more.

Yes. This is one of the best keynotes from Apple in a very long time. And this is coming from someone who has been disappointed (at least in some respect) with almost every keynote since the iPhone. It shows two things:

(1) They're doing an EXCELLENT job of providing features that we want. Text messages in the messages app on OS X, 3rd party keyboards, 3rd party Touch ID, etc ... some of which I never thought Apple would ever support.

(2) Even while listening to the consumer, they can still do their own thing and introduce complete surprises for everyone -- Swift. What a surprise.

Incredible.

Way to go Apple.
 
I have some questions about the reality of this. The data for these sources are an unknown factor as Apple is relying on third-parties to make the benefit of this service a reality. I really hope that there can be some clever apps/utilities to help (and the iWatch).

However, Caloric intake is going to be such a pain to input. Are there apps you can scan a UPC on your phone to automatically add the calories to your intake?
 
So medical ID is designed incase something happens to you and people need to know of any existing health conditions/allergies that you have.

One problem, if you have Passcode/Touch ID then how do these people get to this information on your iPhone/iPad?
 
Seem to be missing "Health" on the iPad 3 (w/iOS8 beta1).
Is there a list of supported devices?
 
So medical ID is designed incase something happens to you and people need to know of any existing health conditions/allergies that you have.

One problem, if you have Passcode/Touch ID then how do these people get to this information on your iPhone/iPad?

You mean, assuming you are unconscious or your fingers have been blown off?
 
You mean, assuming you are unconscious or your fingers have been blown off?
Yes. Also there are cases where you have to keep as still as possible so therefor getting your finger to touch your phone isn't a wise idea.

There are too many cases where people will be needing urgent medical attention and taking time out in order to get a Passcode or squeezing past Dr's who are treating the patient with vital medical care in order to get a print of the patients fingers isn't exactly ideal or even possible.
 
Well we are talking about additional information.
The fact that there are situations where it won't be useful doesn't make it useless.
 
Does anyone have any idea how it's going to guesstimate the calories used? That seems highly dubious to me, being, after all, dependent on so many things.

And calories (or Calories)? Do health-related (diet?) people or industries still use a Steam-era unit of energy, based on heating up water? Hopefully it can be switched to Joules, which are much easier to work with these days... I notice that most food (here, at least) is labelled with kJ/100g (in addition to 'per serve', whatever that means).
 
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