A Look at 'Health' and 'HealthKit', Apple's New Health Initiative

[wilhoitm]

Yes but that is IF and that is a BIG IF Apple EVER get around to releasing the Iphone 6 and the Iwatch. I know that people will say that WWDC is mostly about software and I agree. Though the problem is that they can not leave all the hardware till the last 2 or 3 months of the year. There would be too much to get through and they WON'T put them all together. They mostly like different events for products. so we would be talking about at least 4 keynotes and they would be too close together for Apple's liking.
If Tim cook does not actually release all these ton's and ton's of products he keeps talking about soon then he should consider stepping down as people and investors will not trust he can deliver anything apart from mild software.
If Tim was a pizza delivery guy the pizza would be late and cold. Not good really.

I doubt though that there will be any hardware released this year. I think Apple are having too many problems and Tim cook just does not know what to do or how to handle things and I think everything is running too far behind to come out this year. By the time he decides to get off his a** and release any hardware such as Iphone then samsung Galaxy phones and others would have caught up and overtook the Iphone.
Here is to a lousy uninspiring year where Apple have not and will not release any new products hardware wise save from a slight upgraded Macbook Air that was so slight you never noticed it unless you looked really hard.

but we will wait and see, I am right because I am just about always right, but we will see

I have never seen anyone as misinformed and misguided at you touchdown100. Did you even watch the 2 Hour Keynote? Are you even a Developer? Apple does not need to be first! Apple gets it right! Was Apple the first with the iPad? Was Apple first with the MP3 player?

Here are a couple of books for you to read!

http://www.amazon.com/The-Second-Coming-Steve-Jobs/dp/0767904338

http://www.amazon.com/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537

Don't underestimate Apple. Look what Apple did to Microsoft. Microsoft is basically fighting for its survival!

This is the best Keynote strategically since the release of the iPhone!

Tim is kicking A** and Taking Names! If you think it is all about the hardware? Tell that to Sony!

 

[bigchrisfgb]

I agree that hardware shouldn't be restricted to the last 3 months or so of the year.

Where did he come to the conclusion that there will be no hardware this year though? Nothing seems to suggest that there will be no hardware releases this year, intact it's very similar to last year.

 

[wilhoitm]

I agree that hardware shouldn't be restricted to the last 3 months or so of the year.

Where did he come to the conclusion that there will be no hardware this year though? Nothing seems to suggest that there will be no hardware releases this year, intact it's very similar to last year.

Let Samsung throw darts at a board and come out with a new phone every 2 months! It doesn't matter! Apple should stick to their schedule of 1 phone a year and focus on avoiding fragmentation and getting it right!

The chips that power a lot of these devices control their release schedule anyway. Maybe he was talking about the Mac Pro?

 

[bigchrisfgb]

Let Samsung throw darts at a board and come out with a new phone every 2 months! It doesn't matter! Apple should stick to their schedule of 1 phone a year and focus on avoiding fragmentation and getting it right!

The chips that power a lot of these devices control their release schedule anyway. Maybe he was talking about the Mac Pro?

No I mean everything shouldn't be released at the end of the year, never said anything about increasing how many new iPhones are released in the year.

Having a new product launch every 3-4 months is rather reasonable instead of having new iPhones/iPods, new Macs, and new iPads all between September to November/December.

 

[Vinamra]

If I understand this correctly, the Health app will collect data from all the other health related apps (possibly apps by manufacturers who have related hardware in the market) and present it nicely? Which means, I would still need all the apps even though they would be redundant?

 

[wilhoitm]

If I understand this correctly, the Health app will collect data from all the other health related apps (possibly apps by manufacturers who have related hardware in the market) and present it nicely? Which means, I would still need all the apps even though they would be redundant?

Apple is doing it the smart way! Apple is not going to start making Hospital grade devices and equipment like the Mayo Clinic and the 20 other Hospitals in todays keynote use. Apple is cultivating the industry instead of trying to take it over like Microsoft would try to do. There is strength in numbers and in being a friend instead of a foe! Plus many of the areas are extremely specialized, Healthcare is not an easy industry.

 

[Avalontor]

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Don't underestimate Apple. Look what Apple did to Microsoft. Microsoft is basically fighting for its survival!
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Microsoft is basically fighting for its survival!???

You mean the worlds largest software maker, undisputed king of the enterprise? You think they are fighting for survival?

 

[Roller]

Stop eating bread

Don't eat out as much.

Exercise everyday.

There. I did you better than the health app can offer you.

You (and many others in this thread) are missing the point. Apple is building a foundation for integrating comprehensive health-related information on iOS. The iWatch and similar devices will provide one source of data for the Health app, but Apple's announcement that it's working with organizations like the Mayo Clinic and Epic is at least as exciting. So, for example, it'll be possible for information such as lab results, prescriptions/drug warnings, and appointments to flow into the Health app automatically.

The percentage of older individuals who use healthcare resources is will continue to rise as formerly-fatal diseases become manageable, chronic conditions. And, even for young people who are basically healthy, Health and HealthKit will help them stay that way.

I don't think that the CEO of the Mayo Clinic was exaggerating when he said that HealthKit will revolutionize how the health industry interacts with people.

 

[Orlandoech]

The rumors looked better Thats just sad

Lol I know right so funny

 

[wilhoitm]

Microsoft is basically fighting for its survival!???

You mean the worlds largest software maker, undisputed king of the enterprise? You think they are fighting for survival?

I hate to break it to you but Microsoft is in trouble and even Microsoft knows it!

Ballmer fired.
Bill Gates forced to come back.
A new CEO!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgea...bid-to-fix-microsoft-what-ballmer-didnt-dare/

Microsoft is only a shadow of its former self, most people blame Ballmer for totally missing the mobile and internet markets completely and the Windows Vista and Windows 8 debacles!

 

[shahrezsyed]

Yes. This is one of the best keynotes from Apple in a very long time. And this is coming from someone who has been disappointed (at least in some respect) with almost every keynote since the iPhone. It shows two things:

(1) They're doing an EXCELLENT job of providing features that we want. Text messages in the messages app on OS X, 3rd party keyboards, 3rd party Touch ID, etc ... some of which I never thought Apple would ever support.

(2) Even while listening to the consumer, they can still do their own thing and introduce complete surprises for everyone -- Swift. What a surprise.

Incredible.

Way to go Apple.

Totally agreed.

 

[Avalontor]

I hate to break it to you but Microsoft is in trouble and even Microsoft knows it!

Ballmer fired.
Bill Gates forced to come back.
A new CEO!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgea...bid-to-fix-microsoft-what-ballmer-didnt-dare/

Microsoft is only a shadow of its former self, most people blame Ballmer for totally missing the mobile and internet markets completely and the Windows Vista and Windows 8 debacles!

Yet they still have 90 Billion in the bank and are still the largest software maker on the planet and still reign in the enterprise. How long is this decline supposed to take?

P.S. check out HealthVault and Health CUI, Microsoft has already been playing this game awhile.

 

[wilhoitm]

Yet they still have 80 Billion in the bank and are still the largest software maker on the planet and still reign in the enterprise. How long is this decline supposed to take?

Some people are saying that "Software" is the new "Film" vs. "Digital Cameras" that forced Kodak to go bankrupt.

They would probably die slow on the vine like Kodak, however long that took!

Because of the internet most software is free or at lease almost free. Microsoft does not make the hardware that the Enterprise uses.

Just think about it. Apple gives away its operating system and almost all of it software for free and they make their money on the hardware.

Microsoft will finally turn things around but it is funny seeing them struggle.

Some say sarcastically that Steve Ballmer did more to help Apple than Steve Jobs! LOL!

Microsoft has been playing a lot of games with not too much success lately? Hell, Apple is worth 200 Billion more than Microsoft in market cap and that says it all!

 

[triptolemus]

So medical ID is designed incase something happens to you and people need to know of any existing health conditions/allergies that you have.

One problem, if you have Passcode/Touch ID then how do these people get to this information on your iPhone/iPad?

Just go ahead and skip to the most extreme situation you can imagine and blow right by the practical uses for one looking up their own information with their fingers and consciousness intact.

 

[IJ Reilly]

Yes. Also there are cases where you have to keep as still as possible so therefor getting your finger to touch your phone isn't a wise idea.

There are too many cases where people will be needing urgent medical attention and taking time out in order to get a Passcode or squeezing past Dr's who are treating the patient with vital medical care in order to get a print of the patients fingers isn't exactly ideal or even possible.

Your first example is sort of ridiculous, but the fact is if such a system only breaks down in cases of unconsciousness or major trauma, then it will be very useful indeed.

 

[The Doctor11]

Lol I know right so funny

Not funny hurtful

 

[IJ Reilly]

Just go ahead and skip to the most extreme situation you can imagine and blow right by the practical uses for one looking up their own information with their fingers and consciousness intact.

Reductio ad absurdum. The backing of many arguments here.

 

[TheAppleFairy]

as this app most likely requires an iPhone5S + is there an updated list on the apple page yet that tells me what features of iOS 8 r working on the iPhone5? cant find any yet

I think the 5S is just one way for it to obtain data. The fitbit, jawbone up, fuel band, blood pressure monitors, hopefully the iwatch, and other 3rd party hardware.

 

[paradox00]

How is this innovation?

Apple did two things today:
1) Connected the devices they all ready make
2) Enable developers deeper access to the system

No new innovations from Apple yet again.

At least Tim has learned he is a bumbling idiot and let Craig to most of the talking. Now if only they had more then one guy who could give a presentation maybe I could stay focused.

(and don't call me a troll, I have been buying Apple for longer then most. Just look at the stock price after the announcement today...)

Maybe we will see something exciting at the iPhone/iPad announcements later this year.

Stock price after an announcement is irrelevant. If you've been buying Apple products for as long as you've said, you should have learned that much at least. Let's wait a year to see what the impact of these "non innovative" ideas will be. As far as I can tell, they've closed some glaring holes in the iOS, offered integration that Google can't hope to provide, released an entire new programming language and given developers tools that are far and above those available for any other platform. No change stands out on its own, but collectively they are many orders of magnitude larger than a couple of flashy flagship features. One rock on its own is meaningless, but gather enough and it's a mountain. That's what happened here. This was the most feature packed Keynote I've watched.

Don't worry though, those flashy flagship features that you think are the only things that can resemble innovation will come in the fall anyway.

 

[yourtoys7]

Yet they still have 90 Billion in the bank and are still the largest software maker on the planet and still reign in the enterprise. How long is this decline supposed to take?

P.S. check out HealthVault and Health CUI, Microsoft has already been playing this game awhile.

so did blackberry at one point, Fact is Apple is easy to use, I just got macbook pro and will get mac mini once my old pc dies. I will not go back to windows for a long time if ever...

 

[Reds622]

I love Apple, but who REALLY cares about a fitness band displaying vital health statistics? You know who will care, the chronically disabled and the elderly.. Honestly. How can anyone actually believe that such a device could take off in the mainstream, it can't. No one will get EXCITED about some wearable fitness device.. Otherwise, why haven't other such products taken off? Clearly, the only way a wearable "watch" or "fitness band" will achieve mainstream popularity is if it does "something" else. What is that "something" I do not know. But I remember Tim Cook making this exact point, that you need to entice the twenty somethings and early thirty somethings to purchase and wear a device on their wrist that a lot currently don't.

Anyone on here who disagrees with the above statement is either clueless or blinded by their own apple colored glasses. If Apple releases a new and improved Nike "fitband" it will be a massive massive failure that should trigger questions as to what exactly they were thinking.. But I do not think that will happen, and that is why there is no way in this world that their next product, which by the time it is released will have scorched earth level hype, will be just a "Health" wearable device. Just no way.

 

[StyxMaker]

Stop eating bread



Don't eat out as much.



Exercise everyday.



There. I did you better than the health app can offer you.

No reason to stop eating bread.

 

[DarwinOSX]

You don't know anything.

How is this innovation?

Apple did two things today:
1) Connected the devices they all ready make
2) Enable developers deeper access to the system

No new innovations from Apple yet again.

At least Tim has learned he is a bumbling idiot and let Craig to most of the talking. Now if only they had more then one guy who could give a presentation maybe I could stay focused.

(and don't call me a troll, I have been buying Apple for longer then most. Just look at the stock price after the announcement today...)

Maybe we will see something exciting at the iPhone/iPad announcements later this year.

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Completely wrong and it is really obvious why. There is a huge market in fitness, exercise, health, and monitoring devices now. This will mainstream it even more. Just because you don't does not mean nobody else does. There is a big world out there..not everyone is you.

I love Apple, but who REALLY cares about a fitness band displaying vital health statistics? You know who will care, the chronically disabled and the elderly.. Honestly. How can anyone actually believe that such a device could take off in the mainstream, it can't. No one will get EXCITED about some wearable fitness device.. Otherwise, why haven't other such products taken off? Clearly, the only way a wearable "watch" or "fitness band" will achieve mainstream popularity is if it does "something" else. What is that "something" I do not know. But I remember Tim Cook making this exact point, that you need to entice the twenty somethings and early thirty somethings to purchase and wear a device on their wrist that a lot currently don't.

Anyone on here who disagrees with the above statement is either clueless or blinded by their own apple colored glasses. If Apple releases a new and improved Nike "fitband" it will be a massive massive failure that should trigger questions as to what exactly they were thinking.. But I do not think that will happen, and that is why there is no way in this world that their next product, which by the time it is released will have scorched earth level hype, will be just a "Health" wearable device. Just no way.

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Yet they still have 90 Billion in the bank and are still the largest software maker on the planet and still reign in the enterprise. How long is this decline supposed to take?

P.S. check out HealthVault and Health CUI, Microsoft has already been playing this game awhile.

Like so many other things Microsoft has gone nowhere with it. Neither did Samsung with their pitiful barely working products. If Apples track record stays the same, and there is no reason to assume it won't..they will do very well with this. The combination of iPhone, app store, and so many health accessories already designed to work with iPhone sounds pretty darn good.

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Not really. Microsoft has lost consumer mindshare but is doing quite well in the business software market. They aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

I hate to break it to you but Microsoft is in trouble and even Microsoft knows it!

Ballmer fired.
Bill Gates forced to come back.
A new CEO!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/georgea...bid-to-fix-microsoft-what-ballmer-didnt-dare/

Microsoft is only a shadow of its former self, most people blame Ballmer for totally missing the mobile and internet markets completely and the Windows Vista and Windows 8 debacles!

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If they don't now they certainly will. Plus all of the bluetooth heart rate monitors etc.

I'm excited about this as well. I use Map My Ride and Moves, and I hope they both feed into the new health app.

 

[wilhoitm]

I love Apple, but who REALLY cares about a fitness band displaying vital health statistics? You know who will care, the chronically disabled and the elderly.. Honestly. How can anyone actually believe that such a device could take off in the mainstream, it can't. No one will get EXCITED about some wearable fitness device.. Otherwise, why haven't other such products taken off? Clearly, the only way a wearable "watch" or "fitness band" will achieve mainstream popularity is if it does "something" else. What is that "something" I do not know. But I remember Tim Cook making this exact point, that you need to entice the twenty somethings and early thirty somethings to purchase and wear a device on their wrist that a lot currently don't.

Anyone on here who disagrees with the above statement is either clueless or blinded by their own apple colored glasses. If Apple releases a new and improved Nike "fitband" it will be a massive massive failure that should trigger questions as to what exactly they were thinking.. But I do not think that will happen, and that is why there is no way in this world that their next product, which by the time it is released will have scorched earth level hype, will be just a "Health" wearable device. Just no way.

You should thank God you don't have any health problems. At least any that you know of? Just wait until you get about 20 more years of wear and tear then you will be obsessed with every reading and your life will depend on it! How old are you anyway? You are not invincible you know! When was the last time you went to a Doctor? Do you smoke or drink? Do drugs? Do you go to a gym? What is your BMI? Body fat %? Do you have health insurance?

 

[jrswizzle]

How is this innovation?

Apple did two things today:
1) Connected the devices they all ready make
2) Enable developers deeper access to the system

No new innovations from Apple yet again.

At least Tim has learned he is a bumbling idiot and let Craig to most of the talking. Now if only they had more then one guy who could give a presentation maybe I could stay focused.

(and don't call me a troll, I have been buying Apple for longer then most. Just look at the stock price after the announcement today...)

Maybe we will see something exciting at the iPhone/iPad announcements later this year.

Is there another platform with the connectivity Apple just introduced across their devices?

Is there another platform that offers such a robust set of developer tools? Is there another company out there that came up with a new programming language?

Please spare us all the "this isn't innovation" drivel.....who cares. This sh** is cool and iOS/OS X users should be excited about the things to come. Dev tools like Metal are going to allow devs to actually take advantage of the A7 (and beyond) chip to create powerful apps. Desktop class apps.