And yet, people were always comparing the Motorola/IBM RISC processors to Intel's NetBurst CISC processors back in the day.
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And yet, people were always comparing the Motorola/IBM RISC processors to Intel's NetBurst CISC processors back in the day.
And with the Note 7, you lose your eye sight.
Yeah glad I have the Note 8.
Screen-to-body ratios below... SMH
So how fast would a MacBook pro run Geekbench if it was running iOS
And how fast would the iPhone run GeekBench if it was running MacOS ?
And how fast would the iPhone run GeekBench if it was running MacOS ?
Yeah glad I have the Note 8.
Screen-to-body ratios below... SMH
Wow, what a massive difference.
Enjoy that 0.3% advantage.
THANK YOU so much for saying this. One of the biggest mass-market computing blunders of the past decade is the Microsoft Surface line*; arguably, part of why they've worked so hard on their x86-64-based Surface Pro line, is to help make the original Surface initiative a bad, bad, distant memory.
I think some users here BOTH:
Underestimate the power and flexibility of a full fledged operating system like MacOS (or, yes, Win10); it's silly to assume malice when technical complexity explains it: Excel is on Windows/MacOS because it's MUCH easier to write that kind of complex application on a full, mature, truly deeply-multitasking OS.
Fail to appreciate how nice iOS is; that you think it's worthwhile to port Excel to ARM-on-MacOS is really a compliment to iOS—and you're right, in use case after use case, iOS has found ways to replace the traditional x86-64 platform. iOS 11 just might be the nail in consumer x86-64 computing (with Android after-Oreo trailing behind), ensuring once and for all that full blown desktops and laptops are just for hardcore gamers, serious design professionals, and programmers.
*Notice I didn't say "Pro"; the original "non-Pro" line was ARM
And it looks like their suppliers are running into a performance wall at the moment, struggling to find a good way through.
Just think what these benchmark numbers might be if Apple's stuck A10 processors cores, plus a larger last level cache and a high-bandwidth memory controller or two, on a die and chip package designed for laptop or desktop power dissipation and cooling envelope, instead of just a mobile phone battery.
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You can already do significant development of Swift code on a Raspberry Pi 3, which runs on ARM processors far less powerful than the ones in an A10. In many ways, iOS 11 is a far superior OS environment to Raspbian Jesse Linux for real-time ARM code and Machine Learning inference.
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You can already do significant development of Swift code on a Raspberry Pi 3, which runs on ARM processors far less powerful than the ones in an A10. In many ways, iOS 11 is a far superior OS environment to Raspbian Jesse Linux for real-time ARM code and Machine Learning inference.
I've got an i7 3930k. Pretty damn powerful chip still, 6 cores, 13000 CPU benchmark.
The new i9 has a 22000 CPU benchmark.
May be time for an upgrade
Im guessing its called Bionic since the last few were called like Cyclone and Typhoon etc....bit insensitive if the next one was Hurricane..
But you cannot deny...no matter how fast the processor is...it doesn't stop this...smh
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Spot on with this summary methinks:
Check out @devarty’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/devarty/status/908172546973077504?s=09
Oh, I should have read it more oops
I wish companies would take it more seriously for full blown apps. A lot of people blame a mobile OS when they can’t get work stuff done when it’s because of apps like excel being dumbed down a lot of times.
The iPhoneX UI.
Scrollbar behind the effin' notch. This is no longer the Steve Jobs Apple.
https://twitter.com/BenPackard/status/907785129829036033
Scrollbar behind the effin' notch. This is no longer the Steve Jobs Apple.
https://twitter.com/BenPackard/status/907785129829036033
At this point I’d honestly rather have efficiency improvements to increase battery life. I know. I know. Battery life isn’t the be all end all and these devices already last a Day for most people. But I have to wonder what on earth there is to do with all this power.
Not strictly a criticism, by the way. Just thinking out loud as in just not experiencing the real world performance gains I used to year after year.
Not strictly a criticism, by the way. Just thinking out loud as in just not experiencing the real world performance gains I used to year after year.
Put these in MacBooks for power efficient handling of day-to-day easy duties like idling, checking mails, browsing the web and have the intel CPU dial in for heavy duty computing (like A10/11 have efficient and heavy duty cores) and MacBooks can get back to 10 hours of real world use.
Down in the basement of Apple there will be concurrent MacOS development on Intel and Apple's ARM chips. These comparisons with MacOS don't take into account that it's largely been around for years now. A next generation system will be coming at some point, which would be a good candidate to buildup on new chips. Pro users aren't exactly the main customers at Apple anymore, actions speak louder than words and Pro hardware is years between updates. If they made these changes, it's less about exceeding 1:1 marketplace performance and more controlling end-to-end the hardware/software union.
Apple wouldn't have any intention of switching the Pro computers to ARM anytime soon. The Air and MacBook would change first, Pro later (maybe much later). General consumers are mostly using their Air and MacBooks for the same things they already do on their phones and iPads (email, Facebook, browsing, instant messaging, Word, Excel etc) hardly taxing. If they were building a next-gen desktop OS there would be no comparison, we couldn't know how optimised it could be. I'm also not suggesting it would be an iOS shoe-horned onto a desktop, but purpose built largely from the ground up as the next MacOS.
Lets not forget that ARM already has a few toes stuck in the MacBook Pro's to power the Touchbar, it's a very small start, but it is there in the MacBook Pro right now. Future versions may change the ratio of work between Intel/ARM.
Maybe a developer might also comment if it would be easier to develop for all ARM chips at Apple comparing to the current Intel/ARM setup.
Apple wouldn't have any intention of switching the Pro computers to ARM anytime soon. The Air and MacBook would change first, Pro later (maybe much later). General consumers are mostly using their Air and MacBooks for the same things they already do on their phones and iPads (email, Facebook, browsing, instant messaging, Word, Excel etc) hardly taxing. If they were building a next-gen desktop OS there would be no comparison, we couldn't know how optimised it could be. I'm also not suggesting it would be an iOS shoe-horned onto a desktop, but purpose built largely from the ground up as the next MacOS.
Lets not forget that ARM already has a few toes stuck in the MacBook Pro's to power the Touchbar, it's a very small start, but it is there in the MacBook Pro right now. Future versions may change the ratio of work between Intel/ARM.
Maybe a developer might also comment if it would be easier to develop for all ARM chips at Apple comparing to the current Intel/ARM setup.
Start the iPhone 9 rumours already!
You mean 8s? Or Xs? or will they go with XL? I will stop now.
Not exactly - if a chip can do a certain amount of work in a certain time, it can do a certain amount of work in a certain time. Just because it won't be doing it via the exact same processes ultimately makes no difference. You do have a point in that you have to eliminate the differing factors for a direct comparison, but that's the point of a benchmark. To make it comparable across platforms.
That just goes to show how underpowered Apple's "pro" laptops are these days. They've sacrificed so much in the name of thinness that they can barely outperform a phone.