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The $179 Apple TV has as much computing power as full desktops that aren't that old. It's amazing. Seems inevitable that most of the Mac line will be switched relatively soon.
 
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So the new iPhones blow away the "current" 1000+ day old Mac Minis.
Total dereliction of duty.
No. Geekbench scores aren't suitable for cross-architecture comparisons.

But Apple's CPU group is just amazing, and they'll have performance improvements generationally with the ARM64 ISA that will surpass what Intel will be able to accomplish with their legacy baggage-laden architecture at a given power consumption.

The A11 is a beast and I think it's safe to say it's performance is roughly equivalent to the Intel core M processor in the MacBook. Of course there are a lot of factors that comprise "performance", but I'd love to see how an A11 runs MacOS.

And no doubt Apples SoC design team could make one more appropriate for MacOS than the A11, which has been optimized for iOS on iPhone/iPad type HW.
 
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Nice.. We have a phone outpacing that of a tablet by the same company... This would probably mean a refresh for iPad soon then
 
Can’t wait for next year’s A11X. If Apple and 3rd party developers keep pushing out great software, I’ll upgrade again. But it’s really going to come down to software. No point running software which is missing basic features on super fast hardware.
 
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as we all remember? Face ID worked worked perfectly well. The first phone he picked up did not have Face ID activated but the second phone did

Nope there wouldn't be articles about it failing if we remembered what you remembered. Just Google Face ID fail.
 
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Anyone who argues against tech advancement because they don't see a need for those features is either an idiot or a troll and should shut the hell up about it. I would love to have the power on the a11 chip in the new note or s8+. VR is a killer app for me and needs all the power it can get. I want 4k on cell phones for it.
 
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Doesn't matter as the workflows aren't even close to being similar. Maybe if you could run a desktop os with desktop applications then I'd be excited. Yet you can't. You can't code in an iPhone, can't really do video processing, can't do solid modeling, etc.....etc
 
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People doesn't seem to understand that these scores are completely meaningless when it's across OS and architecture.

Just because it's faster in geekbench, doesn't mean the CPU is actually faster than a MacBook Pro.
The general processing and instruction set that it supported is far from what we have in Macbook, and nowhere near it.

It runs fine in a mobile device, but when it scale up to do general tasking, it's gonna stall and runs like crap.
There are many reasons why Microsoft essentially abandon the Windows RT for ARM chipset.

These news site needs to stop posting **** like this and compare across completely different thing. It's misleading.
I mostly agree, but did you forget that Microsoft announced full x86 emulation on the SD835?

https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2...agon-835-mobile-pc-platform-unveiled-computex
 
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If only people stopped using these pointless Geekbench numbers to compare ARM and Intel chips....
This benchmark is a toy. It says nothing about real world performance with proper workloads.

Take a serious benchmark suite like SPEC and you'll see that the fastest Apple ARM chips are nowhere near Intels "proper" Core processors used in the Macbook Pro. Integer performance merely matches a slow Core M CPU while FPU performance is far behind.

See for instance http://www.anandtech.com/show/9766/the-apple-ipad-pro-review/4

Make no mistake, it's a beast of a CPU for a phone, but please stop with the megalomania.
I mostly agree with you but to be fair, the A9X is a couple of generations back, and even then the SPECINT results against the (admittedly low-end) core M CPU were not that far off.

Increasing FP performance is certainly doable, and with Intel's own issues with performance increases, with a decent power budget I like Apple in this race--assuming they're interested in getting rid of Intel for low and medium performance systems. I'm just not sure Apple is interested.
 
Anyone who argues against tech advancement because they don't see a need for those features is either an idiot or a troll and should shut the hell up about it. I would love to have the power on the a11 chip in the new note or s8+. VR is a killer app for me and needs all the power it can get. I want 4k on cell phones for it.
It would be sweet to be able to run an Android VM on an iPhone.
 
Software is obviuosly on first spot but that is a given when comparing ios vs samsung...I mean this is why android users spend their time on MacRumors right? I think it's call envy....try to see how many Apple trolls are on samsung rumors site if anyone care

This has nothing to do with "trolls". I'm just sick of this "holier than thou" attitude that is found often among many apple users, as if apple could do no wrong. It's no different that what goes on with android users but what's frustrating is the apple users always pretend they're above that when they are actually no different.
 
Perhaps the specs are meaningless as others are saying, and this isn't truly a desktop class chip (and I know it wouldn't work in a true pro environment for video, design, etc.), but it would be pretty cool if your phone could plug in (or wireless in) to a monitor, keyboard, and . . . mouse . . . and run even a low level desktop class OS. Let's face it, there are still things that are better on a large screen and a real keyboard.
 
Perhaps the specs are meaningless as others are saying, and this isn't truly a desktop class chip (and I know it wouldn't work in a true pro environment for video, design, etc.), but it would be pretty cool if your phone could plug in (or wireless in) to a monitor, keyboard, and . . . mouse . . . and run even a low level desktop class OS. Let's face it, there are still things that are better on a large screen and a real keyboard.

They aren’t meaningless, not by any means. The same suite of tests is run for geekbench regardless of whether it’s ARM or x86. You can argue that the tests and the software may be optimized for one platform or the other but that’s about it.

I absolutely guarantee you that if it was Exynos turning in these numbers most of the people here decrying them would be singing a very different tune.
 
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This has nothing to do with "trolls". I'm just sick of this "holier than thou" attitude that is found often among many apple users, as if apple could do no wrong. It's no different that what goes on with android users but what's frustrating is the apple users always pretend they're above that when they are actually no different.


People think that they like it, so everyone should like it...

Its personal.... and not always will get everyone's interest...
 
Intel doesn’t deserve Apple’s business.

Two of these A11s in a MacBook Pro would be nice.

Edit: I still want to run Windows on a Mac though.
Microsoft has already built an x86 emulation layer on ARM. It would benefit Apple and Microsoft to port it to Apple's chip, assuming that Apple intends to use a A1x chip on a MacBook.

However, I'm not convinced that Geekbench is doing a good job of Apples to Apples comparison (don't mind the pun). That being said, a MacBook would be a good target for an Apple chip(s).
 
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Apple Arm based macbooks coming soon and I'm looking forward to it as long as they pass some of the savings to us consumers.

I'm sure macbook pros will continue to use intel chips.

The savings will be passed to Apple / Apple shareholders. No way they lower the price of the MacBook.
 
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You prefer names like, ice cream sandwich?
I mean do some actually think that if their design looks like crap... Pointing out somebody else design - that also looks like crap - makes theirs somehow Ok.

Nop, Ice cream sandwich is what the kid eats in the scene where Cpt Whatever fixes the space station's Bionic Neural processor.

Pointing out the context of a name is a fine thing to do when it is treated as if not in the company of worse offenders.
 
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10 times worst/slower over doing it on a proper desktop or laptop. Nobody does any of that on an iPadPro outside of a hobby. Again, this is like thinking crayons are art supplies because you can make a silly drawing with it when you are 6.
I do. I have 2 MacBooks but when I want to edit on my phone its nice to have a fast processor.
Its also good for the other things I mentioned. Controlling speakers and mixers, using the phone as
synth etc..sorry you don't know what you're talking about.
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Nope there wouldn't be articles about it failing if we remembered what you remembered. Just Google Face ID fail.
Dude you love samsung you hate apple, we get it.
Just be happy with your stuff and move on.
 
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