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Aaron Sorkin Blasts Tim Cook for Calling Steve Jobs Films 'Opportunistic'
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Was Tim *only* talking about Sorkin's film? Unanimously stellar reviews don't mean the film is accurate or that it paints a complete picture. From where Tim Cook (and the rest of the executive team) sits he sees a person he spent *a lot* of time with, who was a mentor to him being exploited. He doesn't recognise the person he reading about or watching in these projects. He has a right to say it. He knows what Sorkin's film is based on (Isaacson's crap book) and that it's already tainted at its core, so why suffer through the film?
This isn't the first Steve Jobs film, book, crappy documentary, television special, or news special to paint an *incomplete* picture of Steve Jobs since his death. It all adds up and sadly it has and will continue to influence the publics idea of who he was. If you knew Steve Jobs and you find all of this inaccurate, it's going to annoy you. Further, if you find yourself on a late night talk show couch being asked about it, your going to speak your mind. And you should, he was your friend/mentor/colleague. Tim Cooks response was 100% appropriate and valid on a level far beyond Sorkin. Sorkin's response was childish and reeked of an entitled, delusional, cranked, egocentric Hollywood *******. Oh you took a pay cut Aaron?? Cry me a river.
An extreme exaggeration to be sure, but the point he made was valid. They exploit cheap labor markets that have lower standards for human rights. That's at every step in the supply chain from raw materials to assembly, with factories in countries that have awful pollution. I'm not sure how you reconcile the constant back-patting over your civil rights and green initiatives, while taking advantage of the lack thereof elsewhere in the world.
guessing but..
if you already have $80m, i don't think $5million is what you'd consider rich.
it's the same thing as having $800 then getting an additional $50..
just saying
Steve Jobs is at the very bottom of my admiration ladder. A lot of brutality, not much intelligence. The whole Apple product lines carry little intelligence to speak of. It was a matter of time, make things smaller. Then for what? 90% entertainment and 10% genuine usefulness. It's for killing time and killing off more id*ots who cannot get off an iPhone.
The movie is based on Walter Isaacson's biography on Jobs. Tim Cook and the rest of the Apple executive team don't like that book and have been very vocal about that. Why? Because it puts too strong a focus on small parts of Steve Jobs personality. It doesn't paint a complete picture. Steve died not too long ago. Wounds are fresh. They don't like that book and by association projects based on it. They have every right to say so.
Not to mention these "S" model farces. Make incremental changes, then charge extortion prices. And of course, idiots like me will buy it anyways, even though we know we are being scammed. Now THAT is opportunistic.
It's more like Sorkin has a passion for something he saw would allow him to write a lot of meaty dialogue. His passion is for crafting words more than the particular subject. It was very much opportunistic in the sense the could really care less about the real person as opposed to the character he created. It's quite reasonable for Tim to see it and other movies as a parade of opportunism that had little to do with the reality of his or others that Jobs had a long time relationship with. Seems like Sorkin is acting out like a world class drama douche either to generate noise to promote the movie (more opportunism) or because he actually is a drama douche.
I prefer the documentaries and clips of Steve myself. While those can be manipulated as well, it's really him, not someone else's interpretation. I saw "Steve Jobs: The Man in the Machine" and while I thought there was definitely some manipulation, it's to be expected. The real Steve was way more fascinating, warts an all, than any biographical drama could be.
Plus, I just can't buy into Rogen as Woz.
Plus, I just can't buy into Rogen as Woz.
Wait a minute - the 17 cents/hour claim is simply wrong. The typical Foxconn worker makes about 3000 Yuan/month; if we assume they work 30 days, and 12 hours/day, that put them at about 8.3 Yuan or $1.3/hour. That's still little from American standard, but it's much better than 17 cents/hr.
What's the farce there? You are paying the same price you would have paid for a worse phone (previous model) yesterday but today you are getting a better phone for it--seems like a deal. Sure it doesn't look that much different, but it's better in many other respects.
It's still cheap labour, and while apple is the best of the companies , Sorkin is correct .
Sorkin won that exchange.
It was a throw away hyperbole comment that had a lot of truth in the sense apple are opportunistic when it comes to making there products in poverty known areas to allow for more profit margins.
It's like saying "that guy is fast as lightening" you know they aren't as fast as lightning, that **** is obvious but you get the point.
That is similar to sorkins comment.
I doubt you go for the exact figures when making killer smackdown!
Good knows what the lowest wage is..... You assumed a typical worker, and even than your calculations are guesstimates.
That's silly. No one is putting a gun to your head and saying you have to buy an incremental update every year. Some of us have the patience to be on the S cycle every 2 years or so. People are upgrading 4S phones to iOS 9, iOS 9 works great on my 5S. Solid hardware that lasts (we do appreciate you non-S cycle people beta testing the hardware). Good luck getting a 4-5 year old android phone upgraded to the latest version of Lollipop.
I'm going to assume the movie is as factual as these statements by Sorkin.
I find it funny how this has turned into people defending apple over the working conditions in China, or attacking Sorkin
Think of it this way, those workers do not have the luxury nor time to ever own an apple device of thier own and create a mac rumours account to debate our working conditions in the west.... That should tell you something...
It's an excellent smackdown! I say well played.
Think of it this way, those workers do not have the luxury nor time to ever own an apple device of thier own and create a mac rumours account to debate our working conditions in the west.... That should tell you something...
It's an excellent smackdown! I say well played.
The desperate Apple fanboy attempts to deflect this is hilarious, as if Sorkin's point isn't any less completely true because he might be exaggerating. The wages are pitifully sad in the Apple factories and suggesting they're doing anything to improve conditions with how obscene their profit margins are is flat out dishonest. They're on track to make $20b this year, even if the hourly wage is as high as $3/h instead of 17 cents, that should still be considered utterly unforgivable for a company as wealthy as Apple. If anyone has the power to change things, it's them. And before anyone calls hypocrisy that anyone who owns an iPhone or Android can't complain: you're wrong. There are practically zero other alternatives to using products made through slave labor and someone making a middle class income does not have the power or choice that Apple does.
He can't be referring to Sorkin's movie. The timelines don't cross. Tim Cook complained that the movies don't reflect the man he knew. The movie Sorkin made ends in 1998, around the time Tim Cook first met Steve Jobs. So it is a movie Tim Cook hasn't seen about a man whom Tim Cook didn't know.