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Aaron Sorkin Blasts Tim Cook for Calling Steve Jobs Films 'Opportunistic'
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And how does Samsung do in this area? Nobody knows, because they refuse to let regulatory inspections of any of their factories. It's is documented fact that Samsung have employed child labour in the past. Unfortunately you feel they should be held to a different standard.
Vanity did a wonderful expose of Samsung and its corrupt and disgraceful business practices.
Have a read and get back to us on elthical standards of tech companies.
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war
Why do you come here again?
I think it is on Colbert for not following up on Cook's comment to clarify which media titles he was lumping in as 'opportunistic.' Really, Colbert was off his game because he did not jump on Cook's use of the word opportunistic given the level of scrutiny Apple gets as such a successful company. He should have seen this coming and handled it directly.
1) Working at Foxconn when compared to most other forms of employment for people with a basic level of education actually provides a pretty good pay packet in China relative to the cost of living. There is a reason why people line up around the block when a factory opens and employees put in for extra hours. Side note, the rate of suicides in Foxconn is below the national average so keep that in mind before raising that issue.
2) Who the hell is Aaron Sorkin and why should I remotely care what his opinion is? it would be like me having an opinion about something - as if someone is going to care about my opinion!
2) Who the hell is Aaron Sorkin and why should I remotely care what his opinion is? it would be like me having an opinion about something - as if someone is going to care about my opinion!
The number of movies made about Steve Jobs when he was alive, numbers? Aaron made movies about dead CEOs at loss before this storm in the stupid tea-cup, numbers?
Higher moral ground by the movie industry world-wide is numbing! Ashton as Steve!
Finally, did Aaron, who has a great list on his resume, make ANY movie about Steve Jobs when alive (or Wozniak or Tim Cook!), or Apple Co, the American pioneer?
Higher moral ground by the movie industry world-wide is numbing! Ashton as Steve!
Finally, did Aaron, who has a great list on his resume, make ANY movie about Steve Jobs when alive (or Wozniak or Tim Cook!), or Apple Co, the American pioneer?
Put on the bag "do not touch my Apple"!
No - Apple is NOT the only one doing regular visits to Foxconn and othee suppliers. Stupod comment without knowledge
No - They are not by far responsible. Where do you get this? From what NGO?
No - saying that others do the same mistake DOES not make your own misstake "better".
Necer forget that Apples "good" behavior came to light AFTER thet got caught......so thats 10 years of shady ipod production.
But hey! Lets defend Apple and blame it on China!
Where would that factory be? If he is talking abount children under 16 years, he may find a handful (Apple finds a few dozen every year and promptly comes down like a brick on whoever hired them), but not a "factory full". Other than that, the minimum age for employment in China is 16 years old. Plenty of kids in the USA, in the UK, in Germany, are working at that age.
And where would he find anyone in China working for 17 cents an hour? Seriously, 17 cents an hour means he is talking out of his arse.
No, they don't. 17 cents an hour would be maybe $40 a month. In reality, wages at Foxconn even for an unqualified 16 year old are more than ten times higher.
That's not a smackdown, that is Sorkin outing himself either as a liar or as clueless.
Ahem... The minimum age for working at a factory in China is 16 years old, the same as in most western countries. If you read Apple's reports, they regularly find a tiny number of kids who got hired before they were 16 - which happens because 15 year olds like making money and sometimes manage to get a job with forged papers. The 17 cents per hour on the other hand is total nonsense.
That, my friend, is a lie.
For those who haven't heard about him, Mike Daisey was the actor who saw hundreds of non-existing children coming out of Foxconn factories, and who talked to dozens of non-existing victims of working accidents in China and so on.
A few years ago, the 16 year olds made about 15 times as much at Foxconn. Since then, wages have gone up. What is this "Foxconn doesn't pay anything close to that" nonsense? Laws of supply and demand. Foxconn needs hundreds of thousands of workers, which is why they pay more than anyone else.
12 hours a day, 6 days a week, would be massively exceeding the maximum working times.
There's no need to defend anyone. There is a legal minimum age of 16 years for workers in China. Apple actively looks for violations of the minimum age. Contracting companies who intentionally hired people below that age are no ex-contracting companies. Several have lost their contracts with Apple _after Apple reviewed ages of workers_. In all cases, the kids have been sent back to school _with a salary paid by the company that hired them_. If a company works for Apple, hiring anyone under the age of 16 turns out to be an expensive mistake.
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Use to be that level wheb Apple made tons of money on iPods in the early iPod days.
Never forget that Apples "good guys" behavior was added AFTER they got caught by NGOs and the media.
I heard about the terrific wages there so I put in a resume, unfortunately I got knocked back because my standing skills weren't good enough, I was devistated.
What exactly does Samsung have to do with kdarling's comment? "Hey, look over there!" That's essentially what you did. Sorkin took exception with something said by the CEO of Apple. He said something derogatory about Apple in response. Samsung's behavior has nothing to do with it. If their CEO had made the comment, he would have said the same thing about them. Deflection not necessary
I would agree entirely with Sorkin's comment if Tim was referring to his film. That said, you may be right. The question that elicited Tim's comment was about Steve Jobs projects generally, and many of them seem patently like cash grabs. It's therefore very possible that Tim wasn't talking about this film in particular. He did say he hadn't seen it.
No they have NOT! They have done so AFTER being caught by NGOs and the media.
And saying "freely" and mix it with old chinese conditions in factories makes you plain stupid!
If you do not know what dangers your workplaces have, is it your own fault for going there????
Please present me with the good and decent labor behavior that Apple showed when the iPod was manufactured in China and started the wealth that Apple has to day!
They are doing ok now but back then?NO!
Sorkin Made a throw away comment and fan boys are fact checking the numbers lolz
Its opportunistic. Thats all it means. By moving the labor force to china to reduce costs, thats a hell of an opportunity to increase profits wouldn't you say?
Cook also didn't say Sorkin was ripping anyone off. Just being opportunistic, you know, in finding ways to make money.
Are you seriously trying to imply apple have never used child labour?
The extent some people use to defend a giant corporation like Apple that give zero sh*ts About anything but profit and PR, simply astounds me.
While I don't necessarily like Aaron Sorkin as a person, he does have a legitimate reason to have a gripe with Tim Cook. There is no doubt in my mind that Apple is trying to present the most sanitized version of Steve possible to the world, and will take active steps to dismiss any efforts that don't conform to their narrative. It's a bit like they're trying to maintain a cult of personality around Steve. He was very influential, but also had a dark side, and to try and suppress anything that attempts to show that side is unfortunate. No doubt some have been opportunistic, but I don't sense that's happening with this movie. This is not the first time Apple executives have come out against something about Steve. They keep talking about "the man I knew", and I don't think they're lying. But they seem to be willingly ignoring the fact that it's not likely Steve had the same relationship with them that he had with others.
Not intentionally, but those jobs in China were and are pretty sought after, so I'm sure people lied their way in underage.
Why people think anything some Hollywood fluffer (an industry with a proud history of child exploitation if there ever was one) says means anything amazes me.