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Not intentionally, but those jobs in China were and are pretty sought after, so I'm sure people lied their way in underage.



Why people think anything some Hollywood fluffer (an industry with a proud history of child exploitation if there ever was one) says means anything amazes me.

way to divert the discussion from the valid point that has been made. Why do people feel the need to defend a company that gives zero ***** about them?
 
Wow, what a childish response.

Also, the people who make these sorts of accusations at Apple are absurd. Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony manufacture the Playstation 4, Wii U, and XBox One at the same Foxconn factories. Dell and HP also manufacture their computers there.

Apple is the only one who publishes regular worker safety reports and does inspections and forces Foxconn to improve working conditions. They're by far the most responsible of every company in this list, so singling them out is ridiculous. It's an industry-wide issue that needs to be solved, not something Apple is doing.

The fact that this is Aaron Sorkin's view of the Foxconn situation makes it seem very unlikely to me that this will be an accurate film, if he buys in to media storylines like "the Apple factories".

What do other companies have to do with the point Sorkin made? He was attacked by Cook and addressed this with a valid point. What about his point was childish? He answered with a fact - the fact that Apple exploits cheap labor (probably child labor as well in the past) for their own profits.

People can't even point out the facts without being attacked by Apple fanboys...
 
And you know the real Steve Jobs....sure.

well do you?

Do you know him more than Tim Cook? I'm not the one saying I know Steve Jobs, you are. Prove it.

Unless you knew Jobs, how the hell would you even know?

He was right. But why not turn the argument onto something else? Again, how the hell would you know what Jobs was like?


Yeah I did, not do, since he isn't around anymore. Acquaintance would be a stretch, more like another employee at a small relatively quaint place back then where you sat amongst other co-workers for lunch, bump into and chat with them in the common areas, and hear them when they get loud rooms away. I also know, and have known, friends and acquaintances who had to work with him on a regular basis. Heard their stories over and over. Same thing different day most of the time.

The denial of paternity for so long with regard to his daughter and the way he treated her for the better part of his life is an indication of some of his "less than sparkling" behavior. His relationship with his father, or lack thereof, is also an excellent indication of this behavior that often doesn't make it into the description of what type of human he was. How about how he basically told doctors he knew better when they told him what he course of treatment should be. At the time he was initially diagnosed his condition was early, treatable, and he would have almost absolutely lived through it had he taken the advice of his medical team. Unfortunately these were examples of how obstinate he could be, amongst other things, both personally and professionally and, again, examples of some of his shortcomings that he honed to use as great tools in life, both positive in his successes but also extremely negative when it came to his failures in some of life's most important areas.

From my own personal experience I'm surprised he didn't pass sooner, not bc of the disease that ultimately took his life, bc of the way he at times did things like when he wouldn't look when he ran across the street into the office most days. Many employees nearly turned him into a splat from Frogger the way he never looked where he went as he darted across the parking lot after parking his car in a handicap spot.

http://www.cultofmac.com/2613/steve-jobs-still-parking-in-handicapped-spaces-the-pictures/

But what do I know....... my .025 cents
 
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No they have NOT! They have done so AFTER being caught by NGOs and the media.

And saying "freely" and mix it with old chinese conditions in factories makes you plain stupid!

If you do not know what dangers your workplaces have, is it your own fault for going there????

Please present me with the good and decent labor behavior that Apple showed when the iPod was manufactured in China and started the wealth that Apple has to day!

They are doing ok now but back then?NO!

You really need to back your arguments up with some evidence. Anyone can go to Apple's website and see supplier responsibility reports dating back to 2007. I'd love for you to describe what triggered the first one, and provide some examples of other companies publishing reports of similar level of detail over the same time frame.

PS: The iPod was launched 14 years ago, try to keep your arguments in the most recent decade...
 
Don't worry, Aaron Sorkin doesn't give a **** about you either.
He never said he did. And apple doesn't give a sh*t about you, so why blindly defend everything apple does?

Sorkin called out tim for being the hypocrit he is. The end. I'm sure tim is crying into his million dollar pillow right now and doesn't need the comfort of fanboys.
 
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"Third, if you've got a factory full of children in China assembling phones for 17 cents an hour you've got a lot of nerve calling someone else opportunistic."

Ouch... that hurts !

I like Tim Cook, but in this case he was talking out of his ass - criticizing a movie he hasn't even seen - and one that's received unanimously stellar reviews at that.
 
Sorkin Made a throw away comment and fan boys are fact checking the numbers lolz
And on the other hand, I had to swim through all the drool from the people who praised Sorkin for that same "throw away comment" in order to make this post.
 
lol.. ya right

well. there are fourth Lord of the rings firm, where the last one the story is takin out of context..... There was never a fourth book, so technically its all just something to cling to now... Having said that, that's probably no excuse for not this Steve jobs movie anyway.

I've seen the last Jobs movie and thought it was a piece of crap. But that's just my view,,, not everyone's.
 
When Apple saw this quote from Sorkin, they probably said, "Wait, 17 cents an hour ... who gave them a raise?" :mad:
 
"Nobody did this movie to get rich," [Aaron Sorkin] said.

Looks like Aaron Sorkin stands to make $2 million off the top, with another $3 million deferred:


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And is anyone really surprised to see The Woz in-the-money on this film? I guess that puts his "glowing" review in a different light...

Tip of the the hat to GTR over on AI for finding and posting this.
 
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Sorkin sounds cranked. What's he shoving up his nose these days?
Tim cook sounds cranked. Whats he shoving up his *** These days?

See i just made the argument personal as well. Ain't that fun? Not really people make personal choices.

Not sure why the fan boys need to defend apple to the point they need to make stuff personal. Let me guess all these fan boys are not going to boycott the film or give it bad reviews lol
 
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Oh, shut up, Cook, you old bastard. You selling iPhones 6s in 2015 that start out at 16 GB instead of 32 GB is opportunistic, bitch.
 
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