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Account sharing has always been a thing. It didn't just start happening.

They'll probably institute something so extreme that it will affect legitimate customers, such as those using iCloud Private Relay or another VPN. And when people are watching on mobile devices, how do you track that accurately? What about people who travel a lot? What about people with a vacation home? Not even talking about someone rich, here in Missouri I could build a nice tiny house in the country on a few acres for less than $50K and have been considering it. Or someone like my grandparents who rent a condo in Florida for several months out of the year.

Can't help but think this is the beginning of their death pangs unless they can pivot to not putting out a ton of crap TV to see what sticks and not having the highest prices by far in the game.
 
But 90% of its content is bad. Many people I know just don't watch Netflix anymore, beside a few great movies when they come. Plus TMobile is paying my Netflix bill.
 
There is no such thing as account sharing. I pay for X amount of simultaneous streams and Netflix governs that on the back end already. Period.

Any usage at all that I have is within what I’m paying for.
This is how it should work. It doesn't.
Is that what it says in the terms and conditions you agreed to when entering into the contract?
Of course not (I know you are being sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek, but for the benefit of those who don't actually know):

4.2. The Netflix service and any content accessed through our service are for your personal and non-commercial use only and may not be shared with individuals beyond your household. During your Netflix membership, we grant you a limited, non-exclusive, non-transferable right to access the Netflix service and Netflix content through the service. Except for the foregoing, no right, title or interest shall be transferred to you. You agree not to use the service for public performances.
Emphasis mine, from Netflix Terms of Use

P.S. For anyone who's too clever by half: Don't try to get creative about what a "household" is...it already has a clear legal definition (living in the same dwelling, for those who don't know), and that is—of course—why the term was used in service agreement in the first place.
 
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This is how it should work. It doesn't.

Of course not (I know you are being sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek, but for the benefit of those who don't actually know):


Emphasis mine, from Netflix Terms of Use

P.S. For anyone who's too clever by half: Don't try to get creative about what a "household" is...it already has a clear legal definition (living in the same dwelling, for those who don't know), and that is—of course—why the term was used in service agreement in the first place.
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They actively *encouraged* password sharing. It was part of their growth strategy. People have already called out the ways in which this will break: Travel a lot? <break> Use your phone to watch content? <break> Have a second home? <break>

They already have a legitimate method by limiting the number of active streams, which you pay for, so at that point, this is meaningless. My kid in college is not going to get his own account to Netflix.
 
I have my own Netflix account, as does my sister’s family and my parents.

If Netflix do introduce an option to share an account with two other households, presumably at a reduced fee, I will absolutely share mine with my sister and parents. Then we can split the cost of one account three ways.

That’s the way to do it!
 
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They actively *encouraged* password sharing. It was part of their growth strategy. People have already called out the ways in which this will break: Travel a lot? <break> Use your phone to watch content? <break> Have a second home? <break>

They already have a legitimate method by limiting the number of active streams, which you pay for, so at that point, this is meaningless. My kid in college is not going to get his own account to Netflix.
To be clear, I'm not endorsing what Netflix is doing here.

...but if you think a 5 year old tweet from the company Twitter supersedes Terms of Use that you as a Netflix subscriber explicitly agreed to—whether you read it or not—I don't know what to tell you. Just because you think it's "meaningless"...doesn't mean it is. Shareholder value is down, and they're actively testing it! You think they're doing that just for kicks? It's definitely not only meaningful, it's as serious as these things get.

Plus, "Love is sharing a password." could easily be argued to mean "Love is sharing a password with someone who now cohabitates with you." Not only that, but Netflix has some of the most skilled engineering teams in the world—if you think they can't account for those use cases/complexity in their detection implementation without breaking things...well, I hope you're not a gambler.

I hope all of our Netflix accounts don't change, and we get the same for our money we're getting now.

That said, while your college kid won't be getting their own Netflix account, if they're still on it and not living with you in 3 years...you'll be paying a surcharge.
 
Huh? What show was that?
It was a French film released through Netflix, Cuties. I’m sure there have been other instances of such material in their repertoire, though, so maybe they meant something else (I wouldn’t know; I’ve never been subscribed to Netflix [and I’d love to see it go down the tubes]).
 
No. I will never pay to watch ads. I don’t even go to the theater because of ads (prior to COVID 19, I mean; still don’t during). If the price on the HD streaming goes beyond what I’m willing to pay, I’m just canceling it. It’s getting close.
 
It was a French film released through Netflix, Cuties. I’m sure there have been other instances of such material in their repertoire, though, so maybe they meant something else.
Cuties immediately came to mind when I read that, but then they said "show", so I was curious. I didn't hear of any other PR firestorms about such content, and I imagine there would have been one. That said, maybe I just missed it, or maybe they meant "movie/film"?

Either way, I appreciate your attempt to help/add context! :)
 
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Then they should include HD/4K in the single account just like every other Streaming Service. Do they expect everyone to sign up for the 4 user account just to get 4K, only to end up not using 3 of those? What a waste

Not only do they still not include HD or Ultra HD in single/basic plans but they even made them disproportionately more expensive to get. Back in 2017, a Standard plan (required to get HD) cost $9.99/month and a Premium plan (required to get Ultra HD) cost $11.99/month compared to $7.99 for Basic. Jump ahead five years and Basic is up 25% but Standard is up 55% and Premium is up nearly 67%.
 
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I wonder what the average person spends in coffee shops per month as they whine about Netflix
I too want to know what the average person spends per month in coffee shops. If for no other reason than to gain insight into WHY “x cups of coffee” has become THE relative cost comparison.

Are that many people really dropping $50+ on coffee shop coffee in month?!? If that’s what floats someone’s boat—no judgement. I’d guess—having seen no data—that it’s not nearly common enough to warrant its status as the default example.
 
The streaming market is fracturing because every company wants vertical integration. Most people will respond by some mixture of picking a few streaming services to keep, and piracy. Apple and Amazon (and others) are working on being the next step by creating a consolidated interface of multiple streaming services, but that success will hinge on the content providers accepting the terms of the consolidators and taking a smaller cut (which was the whole reason they broke away from Netflix in the first place.) I foresee a second golden age of piracy if the pirates can outdeliver the streaming services (or nascent consolidators) on quality, selection, and ease of use.
 
Music piracy mostly disappeared because streaming services like Spotify & Music created an easier and more enjoyable experience. Netflix is making the user experience harder and less enjoyable.

If people can have a more enjoyable experience for free, piracy will remain alive and well.
Yah, Spotify and Netflix almost killed torrent, but I get the feeling that subscription fatigue is bringing it back again. Those business execs just can't resist squeezing every last cent out of everything until they kill their own business.
 
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I'm somewhat surprised Netflix still has as many subscribers as it does. I dropped it years ago and haven't missed it. Not sure account sharing is their problem. Unsatisfactory content, senseless pricing tiers, and overall high prices seem to be more of a problem. Seems they're only addressing the high prices by considering putting in ads, which is something a lot of people switched to streaming to get away from.
Netflix was one of the better values for streaming until recently. They had a lot of archive content, like pretty much ALL of Star Trek and other classic shows with a fairly enduring fanbase.

It's only recently that they've started removing a lot of the stuff that kept me as a customer. Combined with price hikes and whining about password sharing, that just pushed me to hit "unsubscribe."

I'll probably just turn it on occasionally now to watch some must-see thing, binge other stuff I've missed that month, and turn it off again.

Interestingly Disney+ has become that "good value" streaming provider; it's the only one I'm currently subscribed to full time, with some occasional HBO and Paramount.
 
Perhaps Netflix could stop putting out new shows and then yanking them before they can develop. Netflix’s formula essentially dooms any show that does not produce high numbers immediately. Why bother investing time in a show if you don’t know if it will have an actual proper finish as opposed to being cancelled abruptly.

Not to mention many new shows aren’t easy to find.

But by all means, let’s blame it all on account sharing.🙄
 
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I still don’t understand how this will work. My wife and I both travel for work. We also have two residences. We’re not sharing we just travel.
 
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