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AdMob Chief Responds to Apple's New Developer Terms for Analytics Data Collection
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Oh that's alright then. I like your logic. We can blame those pesky developers for ad diarrhoea, and not Apple for providing the conduit.
A bit like the gun nuts who say "guns don't kill people, people kill people"
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But, that only applies if you're not owned by another mobile advertiser, right (ie. you are AdMob)? As I understand it, AdMob can't collect ANY data. Please correct me if that's wrong.
So we are going to be able to see if Apple is really entering the mobile ad business for the sake of getting in the mobile ad business.
I always interpreted the very existence of iAds was to attract really good developers to the platform in order to attract consumers to iOS devices.
iAds keep developers' on the platform making great apps. Great apps is essential for a vibrant platform. A vibrant platform means people buy devices. People buy devices, Apple makes money.
Why would Apple want to put iAds on Android in order to subsidize Android developers?
The comparison to iPod use on a PC is flawed IMO. You are talking about a simple USB device, no different than any camera, printer or one of millions of other peripherals. All of those devices use software and drivers that operate on the PC. Apple made iTunes for the PC, not Microsoft, and Microsoft could not have stopped it anymore than preventing Canon cameras from connecting. Now, if iTunes and the iPod were mining data (aside from that specifically used within iTunes) from the Windows OS to glean development info for Apple to help them improve OS-X, Microsoft would have grounds to inhibit its use. But to suggest Microsoft "let" the iPod hardware plug in to a PC or would be able to stop it, is pretty silly. For one, Microsoft doesn't have any licensed rights tied to the user's hardware, which, to my recollection, none of the PC's were built by Microsoft. Microsoft inhibiting someone's Dell computer from accepting an iPod in its USB port is laughable.
It is actually for anti-competitive reasons that Microsoft has not made the Zune work specifically for the Mac. Yes, it can be done, and Apple doesn't prevent it, but the Zune is were the iPod was before Apple made iTunes for Windows.
AdMobs desire however would be to mine user data from Apple's product which Google could then use to enhance its products to give the Apple customer more of what they are "looking for" in a Google alternative. Nothing like the iPod on a PC, or a Zune on a Mac.
It is actually for anti-competitive reasons that Microsoft has not made the Zune work specifically for the Mac. Yes, it can be done, and Apple doesn't prevent it, but the Zune is were the iPod was before Apple made iTunes for Windows.
AdMobs desire however would be to mine user data from Apple's product which Google could then use to enhance its products to give the Apple customer more of what they are "looking for" in a Google alternative. Nothing like the iPod on a PC, or a Zune on a Mac.
Steve's doing us a favor and protecting are privacy from Google. If google doesn't like it then tough luck. It's Apple's platform and they can do whatever they want. If you don't like it then go buy a crappy Android device and let Google get all of your private info.
Sorry, this is not exact.
Apple literally took the name iPhone from Cisco (I think) without care, and now iOS trademark as well. You know, abysmal arrogance.
What? PAYING for the iOS name?
(You did know that, right?)
(Also, a number of legal experts thought Apple had a viable claim that Cisco abandoned the trademark--but they came to an agreement later on anyway).
Sorry, I'm not an english native, I try to do my best, but thanks for the tip.
I'm my country is not the side, is the feet you put in the ground first, but I can see you understand it perfectly.
By the way, I'm sure you are an Apple fanatic.
This is just my opinion, as I'm sure you have yours, but you don't have to insult me that way. With that, I can see what kind of person you are.
I like Apple, I have had many Macs, but I criticize what I see is a wrong policy, I'm not a brainless fanboy like many out there.
We will see if I'm right or wrong.
Oh that's alright then. I like your logic. We can blame those pesky developers for ad diarrhoea, and not Apple for providing the conduit.
A bit like the gun nuts who say "guns don't kill people, people kill people"
yes, yes to DO have the developers to thank. for free apps.
if you want free apps, you'll obviously have to deal with something that will pay the developers.
do you sit around and bitch at all the ads on TV too? right, you probably do.
developers HAVE the ability to put ads in apps RIGHT NOW. and have for YEARS.
iAd is just one more ad delivery platform. one of SEVERAL.
"blame" is really the wrong word, and really a ridiculous way to look at this whole thing.
but yes, i blame those devs for giving me a chance to use apps for free, and still get paid a little something.
how dare they!
don't worry man... that's a suspension. you won't have to worry about any comments from that username for the next few days.
iad is a premium service.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/04/29/wsj-iad
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-iad-rates-2010-4
http://www.betanews.com/article/The-true-cost-of-iAd/1270831426
iads are rumored to be $1-10 million. does your average developer have that kind of cash to spend on advertising? how do you think apple is going to make $60 million in 2010 with only about 15 companies buying ads? also note, you have to be accepted into the iad program. you cant just say "oh i want iads in my new iphone game". apple has to approve you and your campaign.
admob is there for developers that dont work for massive global corporations.
And you're assuming the iAds don't collect data? hahah.. these forums are really funny
That's exactly what the updated licensing says.
People can use ads other than iAd, but they aren't allowed to send ANALYTICS data to ad agencies owned by platform manufacturers.
EDIT: (OTHERS beat me to it. damn refresh rates)
oh they will. and then apple will combine their iad analytics with your itunes purchase histroy and provide that to ad buyers as a nice little package.
The problem with what apple is doing is they are building a walled in garden. The garden itself is not the issue. Its the fact that they keep closing the doors to the wall after inviting users and developers into what is turning out to be a prison. A lot of apple fans like to claim that they know what they are getting into when they buy the product, but do they really? With the constant changes that almost come every week..
Apple is already being looked at by the DoJ ... there is no sense to keep adding fuel to the fire.
Apple is already being looked at by the DoJ ... there is no sense to keep adding fuel to the fire.
Actually that would be nearly impossible to do and completely pointless. Different API structure.