Adobe Claims iPad Pro Has 4GB of RAM [Updated]

[JohnnyNight]

Wow, Been a while since I was to MacRumors...

Just had to see what's being said..

I'm SO EXCITED about the iPad Pro I CAN'T SIT STILL...!!!

12.9 Screen..!!! Weighs 1.5 pounds...!! Are you Serious...!! and everything else...

Can't believe Everyone isn't Bouncing Off The Walls till it Comes Out..!!

Yeah I know, could be a little less... I tell people give up the $400 you spend gambling on fantasy football this week and you'll be nice, or wait till the 2nd week of the season if that's just too much to do after the big summer wait..!!

Not easy for some to give up the juice...

 

[craig1410]

Well then you get to count your blessings in 5 years, since you're probably wrong

Yeah just like cynics said that 5 years ago and just look ridiculous now.

The p/e ratio is crazy low for a company with the performance of Apple but that's because stock market analysts just don't understand the company. They think each product is a fluke until the next one...and the next one...and the next one. What they don't get is that the greatest product Steve Jobs ever built was the company itself!

 

[Piggie]

It can be done =/= should be done. You'll end up with a product designed both for touch and for a mouse & keyboard interface, which excels at neither.

Oh wait, we've already got that Frankenstein product. It's called the Microsoft Surface.

No No, that's entirely different.

That's a device that runs one OS. Windows 10, which Microsoft are working with, to be usable for both touch and mouse control.

If you read what I said. I said the Apple device could run either iOS or OSX depending on what YOU want.

So, in 10 years time, when the iPad/iPad pro IS genuinely fast enough to run OSX without even breaking into a sweat.
Do you still wish it to be limited by Apple?

 

[Macronym]

Now if you had a laptop, that would be a very different situation and you can take the laptop and the iPad Pro, although it would not be any different than taking a small Wacom digitizer tablet and laptop to a cafe as I've done so many times ten years ago, using my old school Titanium G4 Powerbook ( remember those? ) and 4 x 5 tablet which was cumbersome.

It would be different, as you will have way more real estate to work with and certainly more battery life.

The inability to work on actual native files from professional applications. Apple's idea of Continuity between iOS and OS X was nice so users can move files back and forth, but there is a lack of ' continuity ' between iPad Pro apps and the professional applications. (...) iPad Pro with Procreate or Sketchbook Pro ( crippled iOS version, not desktop ) may be great for conceptualization phases or brainstorming.

You are assuming that nothing will change. The last few years have shown exactly the opposite. Better and more powerful applications have followed closely the increasing capabilities of the iPad.

I'm concerned that Apple might require users to buy an entirely new Pencil if the nib breaks down.

There will be replacement nibs.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/09/hands-on-with-the-ipad-pro-its-keyboard-and-its-pencil/

 

[teslo]

I'd be more worried by Apple's direction if they did that. OS X needs a lot of work to get it touch ready. And Apple have said many times in the past (including fairly recently) that they're not heading down that path - iOS for touch and OS X for pointer and keyboard. They've u-turned before, but usually there's radio silence for a long time before the u-turn.

To say it's gimped because it doesn't do what you wanted is a little harsh. I would not want it to run full OS X, but had they done it I would've passed it over rather than throw insults because it doesn't fit my use case.

No need for the block button, at least you've explained your desire and backed it up. The annoying ones are those who just scream for features without reason. They find my blocked list easily.

The real boon for the iPad will come as apps start to increase in ability and allow greater/more complex creation. Looking forward to seeing where this device goes.

the posts i was responding to have been deleted, but really, it couldn't be simpler for some of us: no matter how more powerful iOS is at the present time (or in the near future) - some of us work with software that the iPad pro -cannot- run. this makes it a prosumer item.

and osx Yosemite HAS been (basically) optimized for touch, as cintiq hackintoshers have proven on youtube - mavericks was not optimized. this, plus watching surface pro users fire up adobe software and use a file system = disappointment. i'm blown away that some people can't wrap their heads around this..

 

[mattoligy]

"The 64-bit A9X processor inside the tablet provides nearly twofold CPU performance increase and even faster graphics, in addition to double the memory bandwidth."

And how many of those horses are going to be lost driving the larger screen? iPad2 to iPad3 anyone remember that? A much faster chip but the same geek bench score as its predecessor thanks to that Retina display... Can't wait to see how the pro scores in comparison to the air2.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

Yeah just like cynics said that 5 years ago and just look ridiculous now.

The p/e ratio is crazy low for a company with the performance of Apple but that's because stock market analysts just don't understand the company. They think each product is a fluke until the next one...and the next one...and the next one. What they don't get is that the greatest product Steve Jobs ever built was the company itself!

Investors are moved by hype or fear.

Never take an investors opinion seriously; look at the big picture: history, performance, etc.

Wow, Been a while since I was to MacRumors...

Just had to see what's being said..

I'm SO EXCITED about the iPad Pro I CAN'T SIT STILL...!!!

12.9 Screen..!!! Weighs 1.5 pounds...!! Are you Serious...!! and everything else...

Can't believe Everyone isn't Bouncing Off The Walls till it Comes Out..!!

Yeah I know, could be a little less... I tell people give up the $400 you spend gambling on fantasy football this week and you'll be nice, or wait till the 2nd week of the season if that's just too much to do after the big summer wait..!!

Not easy for some to give up the juice...

The real question is: Does it have 4 GB RAM or not???

 

[mdelvecchio]

For that size of tablet, I'd rather have a Surface Pro 3.

that's nice, dear.

I'd rather have an iPad pro.

 

[Dionte]

If it does, time for me to start looking for a bigger murse.

 

[Macronym]

I agree to a point, but I'm not sure I would call MS's implementation at this point half-baked. Maybe 3/4 baked.

As I said, we won't be able to agree. Too many considerations.

What I mean by half-baked is that Windows 8 got into the right direction with great optimization for touch. What happened? Everybody complained. Result? Windows 10 went back towards the usual OS we all know and overdid it.

Short outdated example, just as an illustration of touch vs cursor issues (the author agrees with you, btw):
http://ignorethecode.net/blog/2015/01/31/windows_10_re_crappifying_windows_8/

Some applications do realize their on a touch interface and their UI's adjust accordingly. (...) But a slightly clunky interface that still lets me use a mouse/keyboard but also allows for touch and runs iOS apps would, in my opinion, be great.

The idea here is that if you do that, then you will end up with some developers going more towards one input than another, based on what is required in their respective application or how they understand it. This can only end up in an unimaginable mess, imho.

 

[AliMacs]

This is blasphemy!

Apple has a typical marketing pattern:

double the processing power, double the graphics power, double the price but never double the ram!

 

[AliMacs]

It's just a super sized iPad - still runs a phone OS, and cannot run OS X applications natively. Reminds me of Windows RT.

except windows RT was doomed from the get-go. YEARS TOO LATE. iOS is years ahead of RT and the apps that are available prove this.

 

[TallManNY]

Why doesn't this run OS X again?

Because an OS is an operating system for programs to run on and the primary operating system getting attention from programmers these days is iOS. And Apple makes plenty of computers that run OS X. Now there is a more powerful computer running the OS that is most popular with software developers.

 

[lulumink]

If it's really 4GB, it's a buy. If it's a 2GB in the end, that's no go.
Also, no one needs OSX on an iPad. iOS needs to get some special features just for iPad,
like a proper file management so we can use it for PRO applications.
Right now, it's pretty much an enlarged iPad Air that has less attractions.
It's a software issue rather than a hardware one.

 

[Macronym]

the posts i was responding to have been deleted, but really, it couldn't be simpler for some of us: no matter how more powerful iOS is at the present time (or in the near future) - some of us work with software that the iPad pro -cannot- run. this makes it a prosumer item.

This will change.
OSX might be more powerful, but I am wondering what all these people claiming to do serious work are going to achieve on an ARM chip with 4GB RAM? Honest question, I do 3D and photography, and personally don't see what OSX would give me on such low specs.

osx Yosemite HAS been (basically) optimized for touch, as cintiq hackintoshers have proven on youtube - mavericks was not optimized. this, plus watching surface pro users fire up adobe software and use a file system = disappointment. i'm blown away that some people can't wrap their heads around this..

And I am blown away how people do not understand what touch optimized means and how an OS affects many many people with different levels of understanding and needs. On my 15" MBP it would be a nightmare to use anything with fingers. Just trying to change the keyboard language will probably make me see the battery and sound levels.

 

[prism]

It's not made of rubber, it's fabric actually.

Ok, so that justifies the $99?

 

[prism]

Thanks for your opinion. The way you posed it however there's no reason for many to respect it.

Thats exactly what it was, an opinion and nothing else and frankly I wasn't fishing for compliments like you seem to be.

 

[prism]

Some people really have issues with materials.

At those price points I certainly do but please be my guest and splurge on the kool aid.

 

[tkatz]

As I said, we won't be able to agree. Too many considerations.

What I mean by half-baked is that Windows 8 got into the right direction with great optimization for touch. What happened? Everybody complained. Result? Windows 10 went back towards the usual OS we all know and overdid it.

Short outdated example, just as an illustration of touch vs cursor issues (the author agrees with you, btw):
http://ignorethecode.net/blog/2015/01/31/windows_10_re_crappifying_windows_8/


The idea here is that if you do that, then you will end up with some developers going more towards one input than another, based on what is required in their respective application or how they understand it. This can only end up in an unimaginable mess, imho.

I agree, we won't be able to agree and I won't push things any further.

But just to clarify things, the article you link to is quite old and he's either not being honest about things, didn't realize you can do things differently, or the preview build he was using didn't support the features. A lot of the things he's saying are annoying are actually not the way to do it (he's also running in desktop mode, not tablet, and due to the date of the article, the preview build is quite old). Windows 10 does have its issues, I can't argue that, but that article is not a good example of them. But anyway, thats veering way off topic.

 

[javalsu]

What about if it ran BOTH.

Dock the keyboard and you can then run OSX full version, or select iOS as you would with the un-docked keyboard.

No reason why this could not be done.

I agree. Windows has that with windows 10 and their suface line.

They call it "continuum". Depending on your settings, it will switch automatically, prompt you to switch or not switch at all.

You still have access to all the windows folders no matter which mode you're in. But they've created an immersive "table mode" compared to standard mode with the start menu and taskbar.

 

[Viper2005]

The iPad pro is already obsolete; they didn't include force/3d touch. I bet they are saving it for the next iteration of the pro.

 

[Derived]

It's just a super sized iPad - still runs a phone OS, and cannot run OS X applications natively. Reminds me of Windows RT.

Who, honestly, cares? It will run custom-made (and very powerful) pro apps from Microsoft, Adobe, Autodesk, and a bunch of other companies...what more do you need? Just because it says "iOS" instead of "OS X" it must be less powerful? Obviously there's still some things you can't do...but this device is aimed for those that need to create digital material regularly. And it is 100% great for doing that. Not sure what else it would've been...

 

[Derived]

The worst thing is that they will keep iPad Air underspec. now, just to show how good iPad Pro is. This is crazy. I guess no iPad Air update this October...

Please, tell me how the iPad Air 2 is under-specced...90% of people barely scratch the surface of what it can do. And those that can utilize that power will now move to the pro.

 

[vladi]

Who, honestly, cares? It will run custom-made (and very powerful) pro apps from Microsoft, Adobe, Autodesk, and a bunch of other companies...what more do you need? Just because it says "iOS" instead of "OS X" it must be less powerful? Obviously there's still some things you can't do...but this device is aimed for those that need to create digital material regularly. And it is 100% great for doing that. Not sure what else it would've been...

Im sorry unless it runs full featured ports of Adobe, Autodesk, Blackmagic, etc its not the same.

Can you even find your way around dozens of Adobe mobile apps available right now that do just a single thing? Good god there is Creative Cloud, CreativeSync, Photoshop this, Photoshop that, Sketch. Not even them know what they have but none of them allow you to start and finish your work from scratch. iPad Pro might be suited for pros no doubt (except stupid pen thing that Ivey orgasms over for sake of being different and trying to prove to himself he still has is while its obvious even to him that he doesn't) but iOS is not Pro ready. Not even close.

Everybody is on file management but what about font management? You want to design something you need to have ability to install fonts. So how can you work on iPad Pro unless you start your project first on desktop to determine typography and then sketch something on the pad. This is just one example.

In this case Pro is just a gimmick, truth is its aimed at Office people not visual artist. For visual people that need something like iPad Pro I suggest Vaio Z Canvas, even better than Surface Pro 3 if you cant live with Windows.

 

[DEMinSoCAL]

exactly hence the 'pro' moniker.

It will appeal to certain users more than others hence Apple has a plethora of tablets for those that this doesn't fit their briefs.

For those that it is on brief for, it's perhaps one of the most exciting products Apple has released in some time.

I suppose the same could be said 3 years ago when Apple introduced the new Mac PRO. A niche product for "Pro's" that apparently hasn't made Apple the billions they thought and has since languished and is rumored to be discontinued.