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Adobe Creative Suite 3 Announced
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This is a great day for professionals. As skeptical as I was about the merger but I was dead wrong. Now if we could get a version of Photoshop elements based upon the CS3 code for us consumers/hobbyists.
You're wrong about photoshop. I create in ps and send the artwork to fireworks to get ready for the web...
I don't know how they're going to verify you have what's required for the upgrade, but you will get the whole MC for $1399 Upgrade or $999 academic non-upgrade.
So FireWorks is like ImageReady? Is that how we reduce file sizes for the web now? You're the first member I read knows this relationship.
Does Master Collection Upgrade make your CS2 Standard and MX2004 Studio Pro to the full suites of CS3 Master Collection? I am not clear how the upgrade works.
Now we see both regular PS CS3 and PS CS3 Extended. Does PS Extended Edition have some watered-down version of Image Ready (ie. making the PS files to web friendly format and size)?
Adobe CS Web Premium CS Upgrade for Mac
Amazon UK - £513.99
Apple US Store - $499, equates to £253.95
I can 2 of these upgrades in the US for less than the price of 1 in the UK
Adobe can feck right off. Care to explain this without resorting to the usual VAT excuse??
I'll just order it in the US and ship it to one of our companies over there and then get it sent on via internal mail.
Is it any wonder people resort to piracy?
Amazon UK - £513.99
Apple US Store - $499, equates to £253.95
I can 2 of these upgrades in the US for less than the price of 1 in the UK
Adobe can feck right off. Care to explain this without resorting to the usual VAT excuse??
I'll just order it in the US and ship it to one of our companies over there and then get it sent on via internal mail.
Is it any wonder people resort to piracy?
Has anybody used Borderlinx before? It's looking increasingly tempting to me, being in Great 'Adobe wants you to pay double' Britain...
On the whole I think this is a positive announcement deserving an whole-hearted " it's about time CS3 came out." However, two things have me frustrated/concerned.
1. "Flash now has a redesigned user interface with the same workspace panels and interface options as the other Adobe applications. In fact, this unified user interface is now consistent across Flash, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, After Effects, and Soundbooth." So now Flash designers everywhere have an entirely new interface to deal with. Great. Count me as someone who liked the Macromedia interface setup better than the Adobe one. At least they didn't turn Dreamweaver into GoLive.
2. Why doesn't the Web standard bundle come with Photoshop? Photoshop is essential for Web design. If you want both Dreamweaver AND Photoshop, you have to buy either Design Premium or Web Premium. Talk about sticking it to the Web designers.
Oh and I agree with the previous posters. That clown is EEEEVIL!
1. "Flash now has a redesigned user interface with the same workspace panels and interface options as the other Adobe applications. In fact, this unified user interface is now consistent across Flash, Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, After Effects, and Soundbooth." So now Flash designers everywhere have an entirely new interface to deal with. Great. Count me as someone who liked the Macromedia interface setup better than the Adobe one. At least they didn't turn Dreamweaver into GoLive.
2. Why doesn't the Web standard bundle come with Photoshop? Photoshop is essential for Web design. If you want both Dreamweaver AND Photoshop, you have to buy either Design Premium or Web Premium. Talk about sticking it to the Web designers.
Oh and I agree with the previous posters. That clown is EEEEVIL!
Nice to see official prices. Things don't look so bad. For the cost of just a PS upgrade you can get into a full suite upgrade that is more than fair. The edu pricing is higher than in the past but doesn't seem out of line. Can't wait to get the web premium bundle and get to work.
Thank god Adobe gave up on ImageReady and kept Fireworks part of the suite. It's such a powerful web design and prototyping tool, but hardly anybody knows about it....but the people who do tend to use it like a "secret weapon".
HOWEVER -- Adobe isn't letting people who own the Educational versions upgrade AT ALL. I can't upgrade to a non-Edu version or upgrade my CS2/Studio 8 bundle to CS3. I can either keep buying Educational or I can grab my ankles and buy the full-priced Master Suite if I want all the tools I need. Thanks for the reaming, Adobe!
HOWEVER -- Adobe isn't letting people who own the Educational versions upgrade AT ALL. I can't upgrade to a non-Edu version or upgrade my CS2/Studio 8 bundle to CS3. I can either keep buying Educational or I can grab my ankles and buy the full-priced Master Suite if I want all the tools I need. Thanks for the reaming, Adobe!
i think what i meant to say was you cannot upgrade to it. they do not make upgrade versions of the academic software, only full.
as far as going from an academic CS3 to an upgrade of CS4 (for example) i did not know if you can do that or not.
as far as going from an academic CS3 to an upgrade of CS4 (for example) i did not know if you can do that or not.
I think you can. Or at least you could with previous versions. Adobe Student FAQ
My question is whether or not you can use Dreamweaver or Flash education versions for profit. I know that with previous versions, this was not allowed with the macromedia software, but was fine with the adobe software.
No, you can't, unfortunately. I just checked with Adobe, and the Educational versions are not upgradable at all. You can't move from an Academic CS2 to CS3 without buying the full version.
I now realise there's no upgrade-academic version, but I'm interested in academic to commercial as I'm no longer a student (I have the academic version of CS Premium).
According to a FAQ I just read, you can.
I would jump up and cheer if I can upgrade my Educational version. The guy on their Live Chat feature just told me that academic software is not eligible for any upgrades, which is different from their FAQ. I'll call Adobe and see what they say.
Education Upgrade.
Thanks for the response and the links.
Here is what was posted at Adobe's Site:
"Student question
What happens after I graduate? If a new version comes out that I want to buy, do I have to buy the full new retail version or can I save money and just buy the retail upgrade?
Answer
You are able to continue to use your Education version serial number when you leave school to upgrade to future commercially priced versions if you want to, rather than having to buy the next full version. So you save money now while you are a student, and also after you graduate!"
Thanks for the response and the links.
Here is what was posted at Adobe's Site:
"Student question
What happens after I graduate? If a new version comes out that I want to buy, do I have to buy the full new retail version or can I save money and just buy the retail upgrade?
Answer
You are able to continue to use your Education version serial number when you leave school to upgrade to future commercially priced versions if you want to, rather than having to buy the next full version. So you save money now while you are a student, and also after you graduate!"
Just added the link above and here.
If you need Web Premium and Production Premium, you don't get In-Design. Looks like the Master Collection (MC) for $999 is the cheapest way to get what you want even if you don't need everything. AlaCarte a few and you're over $1k no matter how you slice it. Even if I was to try and upgrade from my NFR CS1 (which I doubt will work), the cost would be $1,400 for the MC. So the academic MC at $999 is definitely the way I'll be going.
Same here, Master Collection. I will be putting together a quote for my school this week... need to get multi user pricing, Adobe seems to be the only one advertising the academic so far. academicsuperstore has cs3 but now Master Collection.
The only issue that I see here is that the Master set comes with competing software for Final Cut Studio and I know that I am going to be expected to justify why we need two video editing applications... there is no way I am moving my work, faculties or the students from FC to Premier... we have already gone down that street once.
Oh! and one little tare at Adobe.. Adobe's online store sucks! They need to abandon the Flash store, it is slow and painful, no back arrow support, ugh!
Speaking of Apple and Adobe being in cahoots... wasn't Apple also supposed to have some event today? You know, with Adobe, or shortly after/before?
So FireWorks is like ImageReady? Is that how we reduce file sizes for the web now? You're the first member I read knows this relationship.
Well, there's no need for imageready either. Who uses that? Who uses FW anymore either? People need to quit slicing up documents 2 or 3 years ago and learn a little CSS - for the sake of their site visitors.
You can optimize for the web by simply using the save for web command or whatever it's called these days. Same 2,3, or 4 way dialog for compressing web graphics.