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Adobe Creative Suite 3 Announced

Adobe are theving gits

funaifdd said:
Adobe CS Web Premium CS Upgrade for Mac

Amazon UK - £513.99
Apple US Store - $499, equates to £253.95

I can 2 of these upgrades in the US for less than the price of 1 in the UK

Adobe can feck right off. Care to explain this without resorting to the usual VAT excuse??

I'll just order it in the US and ship it to one of our companies over there and then get it sent on via internal mail.

Is it any wonder people resort to piracy?
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Scumbags. I'm sick to death of US companies taking the piss in Europe.

For our US cousins, the price of GBP525 for the Web Premium "Upgrade" equates to US$1,032.34. That's without our VAT tax being added to that.

So you pay $500 for the upgrade, Brits pay $1032 for the same.

Screw them.

Edit:- the price is £455 = $895. Still a rip-off.
 
The answer is of course simple.

Fly over to the US with your laptop (or a friend's laptop), a toothbrush, and an empty suit-case.

Buy a years supply of jeans, t-shirts, and sports shoes. Wear them all to make them suitably worn in before packing for the return trip.

Buy the Adobe upgrade of your choice. Throw away the box (keep serial number info). Install upgrade (having your own laptop helps).

Return to the UK. Nothing to declare at customs (you just had the disks with you in case you needed to install somehting - right?).

The cost of the flight is more than off-set by the savings on the upgrde and all the cash you just saved on your clothing for the next year or so. :D
 
MacsAttack said:
The answer is of course simple.

Fly over to the US with your laptop (or a friend's laptop), a toothbrush, and an empty suit-case.

Buy a years supply of jeans, t-shirts, and sports shoes. Wear them all to make them suitably worn in before packing for the return trip.

Buy the Adobe upgrade of your choice. Throw away the box (keep serial number info). Install upgrade (having your own laptop helps).

Return to the UK. Nothing to declare at customs (you just had the disks with you in case you needed to install somehting - right?).

The cost of the flight is more than off-set by the savings on the upgrde and all the cash you just saved on your clothing for the next year or so. :D
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Why not make it infinitely simpler and sign up for some class at your local university and buy it at MUCH lower prices than in US?
 
MacsAttack said:
Can't use it for pro work. Says so in the licence :p
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Shecky found that wasn't true in the other Adobe thread.
shecky said:
wrong. you can legally use it to make money:

from the edu puchasing FAQ:

Professional/commercial use
Student question
"I'm very interested in buying the Education version of Adobe Creative Suite, but first I want to know if the software can be used to produce work for paying customers once I am working in the industry, or do I have to buy a different version of Creative Suite once I'm working in the industry?”

Answer
Good news! You can use Adobe Education software (any title!) to produce commercial/professional paid-for work when you leave school, or even while you are in school. In this regard, Adobe does not limit how student software is used. So students can use it to learn and to make money!

(Of course, students must agree to the terms of the End User Licensing Agreement — which appears during installation — just as every software customer must do.)
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another rip off from Adobe

The price of the UK version is the same number like the US version (after VAT) woooooow, the exchange rate is 1 UK pound to 1.9 US dollar at the moment. Why Adobe keep on ripping off the UK customers like this and still get away every time????

I might just wait for Final Cut Studio 6.
 
MacsAttack said:
Can't use it for pro work. Says so in the licence :p
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I thought that also but a recent look at the FAQ on the education pricing Adobe site it clearly says you can use the edu software for commercial work while in and out of school after graduation. I found this a day ago while looking to clarify this issue on another thread.
 
failsafe1 said:
I thought that also but a recent look at the FAQ on the education pricing Adobe site it clearly says you can use the edu software for commercial work while in and out of school after graduation. I found this a day ago while looking to clarify this issue on another thread.
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I suspect the intent is that academics (that is, faculty) can use the education versions for academic use only, but that students who are intent on entering 'the biz' can use it for commercial work too, on the understanding that they will buy the commercial upgrades when it it is time to update.

Adobe knows that the price of admission to their software is prohibitive for students, and even for recent grads who are aiming for freelance work. Once established they'll buy the regular upgrades and be off to the races.

Of course the license doesn't say this...
 
NoNameBrand said:
I suspect the intent is that academics (that is, faculty) can use the education versions for academic use only, but that students who are intent on entering 'the biz' can use it for commercial work too, on the understanding that they will buy the commercial upgrades when it it is time to update.

Adobe knows that the price of admission to their software is prohibitive for students, and even for recent grads who are aiming for freelance work. Once established they'll buy the regular upgrades and be off to the races.

Of course the license doesn't say this...
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Interesting point. I am a stickler for rules and was not going to buy the edu version so I would not have to worry about the license. But after seeing the faq's that say students can do commercial work I might be tempted. I work at a university as a pro photographer and freelance in my off time. The edu software for students is the same as faculty would be using so I would apply the same standard mentioned in the faq.
 
anyone get the webcast to work in safari? I can't...firefox works. Ironically enough I'm starting it and the presenter is telling us about Dreamweaver's new browser support feature that tests for compatibility.

edit...and now the video feed is bad so they are taking a break. What a folly of errors...the premier web software developer doesn't make its webcast available to much of its market (Mac users on Safari) and then has to go to muzak while the tech people figure out why the screen went wacko.
 
qrayg said:
You are entirely correct, sir. I just laughed and shook my head when I saw all of the "new" features in Dw. There's nothing new that will actually benefit professional web designers.

I was looking forward to Fw as well but all they did was cludge in the horrible Ps layer panel interface. I think it's funny that they spent so much time monkeying with the layer panel when you can create an extremely detailed project from start to finish in Fw without ever touching that panel. They are forcing the Ps way of working into Fw when it should be the other way around. Fw had it right to begin with... not Ps.
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I completely disagree with your comments regarding "Dreamweaver New Features" not benefitting Pro Users and with your comments about Layer based editing being flawed.

I have been working, hiring, firing most importantly, producing, for the Print, Web, Multimedia industy -- for both large and small enterprises -- for the better part of 19 years. I have the experience to take a stand opposite yours.

For those new to these applications, know this: they are an improvement at all levels.
 
Awesome CS3 Launch Event WebCast March 27 Live!

Wow! That Live Webcast CS3 Launch Event was awesome. I am super excited about the CS3 Master Collection now. The Video Stuff is really great. :eek: :cool: :) Flash export from Encore is frickin' amazing! :eek: DVDs for the Web. Wow. I wonder how large a 4.3GB DVD is in Flash? Anyone have any idea? Would be super cool if it weighed in at less than 700MB 'cause you could distribute MPEG2 DVDs on Flash Video CDs. Wouldn't that be cool? :D Could mark a resurgence of the popularity of CD media and be very useful for playback on older computers with weaker processors and CD only drives.

So the new $64 question is:

How big can my DVD project be so that the Flash "DVD" export equals 700MB? Anyone know yet?

Loved the break too. Very cool.

Anyone who thinks these applications are not major evolutionary products do not know what they are writing about.
 
The webcast was great. One thing that I noticed seems to be a running theme with both the Leopard builds and other popular software products (ie Toast 8); the black/white UI theme! I think that should seal the deal that Leopard will have an updated UI reflecting this black/dark gray and white theme. It looks wonderful.
 
wildmac said:
Agreed. Unless you need to make animated gifs, there is not much use for either app now...

The only real need with imageready or fireworks is creating animated gifs. PS will do everything else.
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I can name several of America's largest design studios who'd disagree with you! Fireworks is sort of Adobe's red-headed stepchild... most people think it's an image optimizer or an animated gif program. It does those things pretty well, but it's the perfect program for web layout and rapid design prototyping. Name another program that can switch from vector to bitmap on the fly, use Photoshop filters, and cut-and-paste vector art into Flash.

Fireworks is the design tool of choice for lots of studios, and has been my toolbox for years. I'm glad it's still around.
 
Fireworks For ImageReady-Type File Size Reduction Work?

nungesser said:
I can name several of America's largest design studios who'd disagree with you! Fireworks is sort of Adobe's red-headed stepchild... most people think it's an image optimizer or an animated gif program. It does those things pretty well, but it's the perfect program for web layout and rapid design prototyping. Name another program that can switch from vector to bitmap on the fly, use Photoshop filters, and cut-and-paste vector art into Flash.

Fireworks is the design tool of choice for lots of studios, and has been my toolbox for years. I'm glad it's still around.
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We don't have many vocal Fireworks experts here yet. Would you mind commenting on how it may replace ImageReady as the means to file size reduction from within Photoshop CS3 Extreme? Thanks.
 
Multimedia said:
Wow! That Live Webcast CS3 Launch Event was awesome. I am super excited about the CS3 Master Collection now. The Video Stuff is really great. :eek: :cool: :) Flash export from Encore is frickin' amazing! :eek: DVDs for the Web. Wow. I wonder how large a 4.3GB DVD is in Flash? Anyone have any idea? Would be super cool if it weighed in at less than 700MB 'cause you could distribute MPEG2 DVDs on Flash Video CDs. Wouldn't that be cool? :D Could mark a resurgence of the popularity of CD media and be very useful for playback on older computers with weaker processors and CD only drives.

Loved the break too. Very cool.

Anyone who thinks these applications are not major evolutionary products do not know what they are writing about.
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Yes Multimedia -- you are totally correct when you say that "Anyone who thinks these applications are not major evolutionary products do not know what they are writing about."

If you are part of a cross-media workflow then the entire suite is a massive evolution -- from Print to Video to Flash to Internet.

My clients are very lucky. They are the true winners.

Multimedia said:
We don't have many vocal Fireworks experts here yet. Would you mind commenting on how it may replace ImageReady as the means to file size reduction from within Photoshop CS3 Extreme? Thanks.
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Fireworks has excellent file size reduction, but is not as well integrated with photoshop at present as imageready is.

Fireworks provides excellent flash integration.
 
Can't wait to see how the new Final Cut Studio compares to the video apps from Adobe. FCP is great...but I can't help but wonder if it has left many of us casual consumer use (ie wedding video) editors in the dust (meaning that it has much more than we need) and if Premier Pro has enough to get the job done. The tight integration of the Adobe apps is great...I'll have to try it out to see if it can fill FCP's big shoes.
 
This is my question too.

CTYankee said:
Can't wait to see how the new Final Cut Studio compares to the video apps from Adobe. FCP is great...but I can't help but wonder if it has left many of us casual consumer use (ie wedding video) editors in the dust (meaning that it has much more than we need) and if Premier Pro has enough to get the job done. The tight integration of the Adobe apps is great...I'll have to try it out to see if it can fill FCP's big shoes.
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Yes, I have been wondering this as well. It will be very useful to see the side by side comparison.
 
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