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From: http://www.adobe.com/products/golive/index.html

"...the next version of Adobe GoLive would be available as a standalone product. We expect to make this new version, Adobe GoLive 9, available in late Spring 2007 in English, French, German, and Japanese. Until then, we will continue to sell and support GoLive CS2."

I'm probably going to have to bite the bullet at learn Dreamweaver, though I loathe the non-intuitive interface and I prefer making pages in a GUI; without touching one line of source code.
 
From: http://www.adobe.com/products/golive/index.html

"...the next version of Adobe GoLive would be available as a standalone product. We expect to make this new version, Adobe GoLive 9, available in late Spring 2007 in English, French, German, and Japanese. Until then, we will continue to sell and support GoLive CS2."

I'm probably going to have to bite the bullet at learn Dreamweaver, though I loathe the non-intuitive interface and I prefer making pages in a GUI; without touching one line of source code.

I wonder if it will happen. They would need to act fast on getting GoLive 9 out before people start switching over to Dreamweaver. Personally, I don't understand why they even need two web applications.. how old is this page would be my next question. If this page is from last year that maybe they changed their minds.
 
The EDU pricing is ridiculously high. CS3 Design Premium ($589.95) is $200 more than CS2 Premium EDU ($389.95). At least for me personally, Flash is not worth an extra $200.

CS2 Premium
Photoshop
Illustrator
InDesign
Dreamweaver
Acrobat 8.0
Bridge

CS3 Design Premium
Photoshop Extended
Illustrator
InDesign
Dreamweaver
Flash
Acrobat 8.0
Bridge

So what's the policy if you purchase CS 2.3 between now and mid-April? I can't find an "up-to-date" program like they normally offer on Adobe's Web site.
 
I just watched the 3D integration video in the Photoshop section and got a boner.

I hope there are plug-ins for Maya soon.
sor far it just looks like basic files like obj, 3ds etc...
 
I beta tested PS CS3 and wasn't impressed. Really what like 5 new features that are worth anything? I hate the new Bridge. I will hold off as long as I can, wait for updates and feedback and see what happens.
 
GoLive's dead with no upgrade path?

Hopefully Freehand is dead... man I hate Freehand...

The EDU pricing is ridiculously high. CS3 Design Premium ($589.95) is $200 more than CS2 Premium EDU ($389.95). At least for me personally, Flash is not worth an extra $200.

CS2 Premium
Photoshop
Illustrator
InDesign
Dreamweaver
Acrobat 8.0
Bridge

CS3 Design Premium
Photoshop Extended
Illustrator
InDesign
Dreamweaver
Flash
Acrobat 8.0
Bridge

So what's the policy if you purchase CS 2.3 between now and mid-April? I can't find an "up-to-date" program like they normally offer on Adobe's Web site.

What part of PS Extended did you not understand?... read the details before you whine...

Get CS standard and Web standard instead..

sheesh... READ people, read...
 
Well, there's no need for imageready either. Who uses that? Who uses FW anymore either? People need to quit slicing up documents 2 or 3 years ago and learn a little CSS - for the sake of their site visitors.

You can optimize for the web by simply using the save for web command or whatever it's called these days. Same 2,3, or 4 way dialog for compressing web graphics.

Ah, I use ImageReady. Sorry but how exactly does CSS slice up a 800x600 graphic into gifs and jpgs? Didn't think so. Just because you don't need it doesn't lower it's value to those that do. CSS isn't for slicing, optimizing images or dealing with animation frame rates, etc, it's for everything else. ImageReady handles all of that and I was told ImageReady would be included in the final CS3 release at the Adobe forums beta testing PS. We'll see if that's true.
 
I wonder if it will happen. They would need to act fast on getting GoLive 9 out before people start switching over to Dreamweaver. Personally, I don't understand why they even need two web applications.. how old is this page would be my next question. If this page is from last year that maybe they changed their minds.

Dreamweaver is more of a pro app, GoLive will be the consumer app. Nuf said.

Well, there's no need for imageready either. Who uses that? Who uses FW anymore either? People need to quit slicing up documents 2 or 3 years ago and learn a little CSS - for the sake of their site visitors.

You can optimize for the web by simply using the save for web command or whatever it's called these days. Same 2,3, or 4 way dialog for compressing web graphics.

Agreed. Unless you need to make animated gifs, there is not much use for either app now...

Ah, I use ImageReady. Sorry but how exactly does CSS slice up a 800x600 graphic into gifs and jpgs? Didn't think so. Just because you don't need it doesn't lower it's value to those that do. CSS isn't for slicing, optimizing images or dealing with animation frame rates, etc, it's for everything else. ImageReady handles all of that and I was told ImageReady would be included in the final CS3 release at the Adobe forums beta testing PS. We'll see if that's true.

Slicing up a 800x600 image for a design is like getting out the Members-only jacket for a party. It's just not done anymore.

The needed parts of Imageready have been absorbed into PS.

The only real need with imageready or fireworks is creating animated gifs. PS will do everything else.

And you can use PS to slice if you must.

you DO KNOW that photoshop is not suited to web graphics work, right? and you DO KNOW that the HTML and JavaScript that Dreamweaver creates is a complete mess, right?

HAhahahahahahahahha...............

Yes, if you work purely in the Dreamweaver GUI, the code has some problems... BUT have YOU tried the new version yet?.. Do YOU know that this is still a problem?...

However, ANY serious web developer would never use a GUI to build a page. Everyone I know who uses Dreamweaver edits their code in the code section, bypassing the the GUI builder. And for smaller corporate sites or other stand-alone sites, the Dreamweaver/Contribute combo is great.

And EVERY web developer I know uses PS to create web graphics. If you think that Fireworks is the only web graphics app, then you need to grow beyond your box of crayons you've been using.

Photoshop can make animated gifs too.

true, but it's clumsier than in imagready... at least in CS2.

I clearly listed Photoshop Extended as part of the CS 3 Design bundle. Maybe you should read. :rolleyes: You may consider Extended and Flash worth the extra $200, but I don't. Since Extended is nothing more than Photoshop with additional plug-ins, the bulk of the extra $200 is for Flash.

But you are saying that all they added was flash, which is incorrect. Premium includes video and 3D support in PS, which it doesn't sound like you need.

And it includes Dreamweaver.

Get the standard version then. End of story.

And if you use Flash and Dreameaver, that bundle is a great deal

Order a different bundle and quit griping.
 
Adobe CS Web Premium CS Upgrade for Mac

Amazon UK - £513.99
Apple US Store - $499, equates to £253.95

I can 2 of these upgrades in the US for less than the price of 1 in the UK

Adobe can feck right off. Care to explain this without resorting to the usual VAT excuse??

I'll just order it in the US and ship it to one of our companies over there and then get it sent on via internal mail.

Is it any wonder people resort to piracy?

The EDU pricing is ridiculously high. CS3 Design Premium ($589.95) is $200 more than CS2 Premium EDU ($389.95). At least for me personally, Flash is not worth an extra $200.

I'm shocked at the pricing for the standard products, especially when some of the EDU prices match a bit better - US$999 for the Master Suite EDU, or in the UK, £410. According to XE.com, that's US$805... :eek: it's cheaper in the UK! :D
 
What part of PS Extended did you not understand?... read the details before you whine...

Get CS standard and Web standard instead..

sheesh... READ people, read...

I clearly listed Photoshop Extended as part of the CS 3 Design bundle. Maybe you should read. :rolleyes: You may consider Extended and Flash worth the extra $200, but I don't. Since Extended is nothing more than Photoshop with additional plug-ins, the bulk of the extra $200 is for Flash.
 
Slicing up a 800x600 image for a design is like getting out the Members-only jacket for a party. It's just not done anymore.

The needed parts of Imageready have been absorbed into PS.

The only real need with imageready or fireworks is creating animated gifs. PS will do everything else.

And you can use PS to slice if you must.

Photoshop can make animated gifs too.
 
Upgrade from Windows Adobe CS??

I own a full retail version of Adobe Creative Suite for Windows. I am trying to completely exit the Windows world. I would like to purchase an upgrade version of CS3 (for Mac). Does anyone know Adobe's policy for upgrading across platforms?
 
I own a full retail version of Adobe Creative Suite for Windows. I am trying to completely exit the Windows world. I would like to purchase an upgrade version of CS3 (for Mac). Does anyone know Adobe's policy for upgrading across platforms?

You'll need to call them and find out. There is a standard policy, but they are know to be flexible with that.
 
I own a full retail version of Adobe Creative Suite for Windows. I am trying to completely exit the Windows world. I would like to purchase an upgrade version of CS3 (for Mac). Does anyone know Adobe's policy for upgrading across platforms?

i read this morning in the FAQ that this is not possible anymore....

Can I switch platforms when I upgrade my software to an Adobe Creative Suite 3 version?
No, you are eligible to upgrade only to a version that runs on the same platform. For example, if you own Adobe Creative Suite 2 for Windows, you are eligible to upgrade only to a Windows version of Adobe Creative Suite 3.
 
Academic

I teach at a community college, and I had a student enroll in my class for the sole purpose of getting educational discounts on her mac and software. It cost her $66 to enroll in my class. If I wasn't an educator, I probably would be doing the same. Although, I probably would pick a class more fun than statistics.
 
you DO KNOW that photoshop is not suited to web graphics work, right? and you DO KNOW that the HTML and JavaScript that Dreamweaver creates is a complete mess, right?

You are entirely correct, sir. I just laughed and shook my head when I saw all of the "new" features in Dw. There's nothing new that will actually benefit professional web designers.

I was looking forward to Fw as well but all they did was cludge in the horrible Ps layer panel interface. I think it's funny that they spent so much time monkeying with the layer panel when you can create an extremely detailed project from start to finish in Fw without ever touching that panel. They are forcing the Ps way of working into Fw when it should be the other way around. Fw had it right to begin with... not Ps.
 
Ah, I use ImageReady. Sorry but how exactly does CSS slice up a 800x600 graphic into gifs and jpgs? Didn't think so. Just because you don't need it doesn't lower it's value to those that do. CSS isn't for slicing, optimizing images or dealing with animation frame rates, etc, it's for everything else. ImageReady handles all of that and I was told ImageReady would be included in the final CS3 release at the Adobe forums beta testing PS. We'll see if that's true.

I know. Good site design is more fluid and capable (via good css design) than slicing up images in imageready. And really, if you're still animating gifs in imageready, please, learn a little flash. However, ps extended has you covered in that realm with animated flash output.

For the sake of the web, stop making sites with 800x600 sliced up images and rollovers. Argh.
 
and you DO KNOW that the HTML and JavaScript that Dreamweaver creates is a complete mess, right?

It's hard to picture any tool that could actually do a good job generating JavaScript. I use Dreamweaver, and never even looked at that part of it. Doesn't it just have a few of the standard simple scripts - e.g. rollovers - pre-defined (That's all I can find after a quick look)?

With CSS2 being at least somewhat supported across all browsers, a lot of that "functionality" is pointless anyway. And getting at the DOM isn't going to be done with a pre-defined script.
 
Any Sanctioned Upgrade Gives You License For All In The Upgrade Product. MC In July

Does Master Collection Upgrade make your CS2 Standard and MX2004 Studio Pro to the full suites of CS3 Master Collection? I am not clear how the upgrade works.
Yes you get a license for all the products in whatever you upgrade TO. Makes no difference you didn't have it all before.
Here is what was posted at Adobe's Site:
"Student question: What happens after I graduate? If a new version comes out that I want to buy, do I have to buy the full new retail version or can I save money and just buy the retail upgrade?

Answer: You are able to continue to use your Education version serial number when you leave school to upgrade to future commercially priced versions if you want to, rather than having to buy the next “full” version. So you save money now while you are a student, and also after you graduate!"
Fantastic. So there's no downside to going academic MC for $999 as far as I can see.
Same here, Master Collection. I will be putting together a quote for my school this week... need to get multi user pricing, Adobe seems to be the only one advertising the academic so far. academicsuperstore has cs3 but now Master Collection.

The only issue that I see here is that the Master set comes with competing software for Final Cut Studio and I know that I am going to be expected to justify why we need two video editing applications... there is no way I am moving my work, faculties or the students from FC to Premier... we have already gone down that street once.
Just explain to everyone that Adobe pricing makes buying the MC or even the PP bundle less expensive than buying what you need ala carté.
I sure hope that Apple and Adobe are on the same page when 10.5 gets released!
I'm sure that's why none of this ships until after Leopard ships and that Adobe has been working to write their code for Leopard since day one. MC doesn't even ship until July — four more months from now.
 
I clearly listed Photoshop Extended as part of the CS 3 Design bundle. Maybe you should read. :rolleyes: You may consider Extended and Flash worth the extra $200, but I don't. Since Extended is nothing more than Photoshop with additional plug-ins, the bulk of the extra $200 is for Flash.

And with flash animation and video animation and 3D imaging / animation properties. I think extended is sort of melding imageready and livemotion 2 into a flash powered beast. I think it's looking pretty cool.
 
aapl & adbe stock

Hmmm, Apple stock is up and Adobe stock is slightly down. I'm sure Apple got a boost from the announcement of adobe intel native products. But why would adobe be down?

I just bought adobe, and I own a ton of Apple. Don't really know how to feel...

edit: btw - that's how you pay for your software and iphone! Buy their stock folks. Especially apple.
 
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