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Adobe Flash Player Initiative for Smartphones Launched, But iPhone Not Included
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Uh, no, by "we" I mean anyone who uses a mac and has to suffer through, say, Flash hogging resources to display an advertisement on a website. Exactly how long does Adobe need to make their Mac browser plugin work halfway decently?
Yes, anyone who pays attention to all the news the iPhone app store gets is certainly aware of this. Apple doessometimes to the detriment of usersexert tight control over their products, but this time I couldn't care less.
Less Flash = better web.
It may be an acceptable limitation to go without flash on the iPhone, at least for things like games which probably wouldn't work so well on the phone's tiny screen with touch controls for which web games aren't optimized. And certainly, noone misses flash's main application on websites: ads. If they could at least get a .flv player plugin working though, that would be a big deal (Hulu!)
My main concern is the tablet, which is supposed to be running a version of iPhone OS. No flash on a device designed for, among other things, viewing full-screen, full-sized webpages, is just unacceptable. Like Flash or not, it's ubiquitous and you really can't go without it on an internet tablet.
My main concern is the tablet, which is supposed to be running a version of iPhone OS. No flash on a device designed for, among other things, viewing full-screen, full-sized webpages, is just unacceptable. Like Flash or not, it's ubiquitous and you really can't go without it on an internet tablet.
Exactly what I've been thinking. How hard would it be to load a page and have to click to load the flash pieces. Otherwise....Mobile Safari would act like it does today.
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that may or may not bee true. and with its capability, even it were to be improved, I wonder how light are people expecting? It streams video, H.264 codec video included, are we really expecting 10Mb of RAM and 10% CPU?
the fact is windows run flash content at least 10x better than mac OSX. and with the massive dominance of windows in the market, the cry of an exclusive mac user really don't hold any significance.
Let Adobe keep their trash uh flash. Flash is not ready for multi touch. That's why they can develop it for every phone but the iPhone. The iPhone has the ultimate YouTube and H264 streaming experience and so the iPhone is the only phone that doesn't need flash player. The iPhone comes with a stunning SDK where game developping hasn't been easier. Again no flash needed. Another open standard is used more and more in web devlopement in html5 and new css standards. They are an open, flexible and light weighted and are able to do almost the same things. iPhone being the only phone supporting this standard. Again no flash needed. For people that still think they need flash. Buy another phone. Flash is not coming to the iPhone.
FU Adobe, still no x64? and they say they are committed to 64 bit? they said that 5 years ago yet even today, they force you to use 32 bit web browsers on windows.
its only true to those who only use macs. which are plenty, but still a small minority.
Agreed, but it includes me and you!
Mac users being in the minority is reason for Adobe not to devote much attention to Mac Flash, but it's not a good reason for me to be happy with the sad state of Flash on the Mac, nor is it reason for me to want to keep punishing myself and my lappy with Flash web content.
I am happy there's no Flash on the iPhone.
If it ever does come to the platform, I hope there's a switch to turn it off.
yeah i know, who wants total web compatibility, over half of major online retailers use flash for shopping cart / e-commerce. i LOVE apple, but saying you don't need something just because apple doesn't support it...just sounds like a fanboy, sorry. once again, this sounds JUST like the mms b.s. i'm sorry i'll always love apple, but they are so off with their phone it's absurd
I love how you all have been brainwashed by apple. 6 months ago you were all complaining that you couldn't get flash on the iphone. Now that there could be a possibility of having it, you dont want it.
Its just amazing how, because It wont run smoothly on the iphone, Apple has managed to make all the apple fanboys hate flash. Im sorry but the quicktime alternative is just as bad (Or worse).
Would you guys be happy if you could get Silverlight on the iphone?
Its just amazing how, because It wont run smoothly on the iphone, Apple has managed to make all the apple fanboys hate flash. Im sorry but the quicktime alternative is just as bad (Or worse).
Would you guys be happy if you could get Silverlight on the iphone?
Oh please. I've had a bold and it is a fine phone and email device. We are glad it fits your lifestyle.
However, Apple is not the 'lone ranger' here. Notice how many other platforms have come out without flash support. Zune, Palm pre, etc. But there's 'nobody except apple to blame here'. I just finished playing a most impressive game (which only exists if you look back), performed a reference lookup on safari (in a fraction of the time it would have taken on my BB) and demonstrated 'Red Laser' (that cost a total of 1.99) to several stunned people this morning. This 3GS model is just amazing.
For someone who doesn't look back, you sure are looking at the wrong forum/thread.
Thanks for the link. Looks like interesting technology Adobe has produced there to "port" Flash apps to something iPhone-native.
There were plenty of people 6 months ago that didn't want Flash then either.
Man, the amount of hyperbole and empty rhetoric in this thread is astounding!
Adobe's not best friends with Apple for several years now (since the switch to Intel, I guess). I see a lot of professionals switching to PC's because Adobe's products are more evolved on Windows. This used to be different. Quite sad, actually.
sorry but apple is the lone ranger, microsoft, palm both signed up for flash mobile support, apple is literally the only one that didn't, and i never said the iphone didn't have it's perks, the browser is faster, on a stock OS. the 5.0 OS that is about to launch for RIM tho loads pages just as quickly as safari does for me. but that wasn't even the point, my point wasn't to debate preference, my point was that obviously flash will end up on the iphone. it's INEVITABLE. i just don't get why apple has to drag their customers through years of b.s. and be last to adopt every technology. my point was that they now have a mac in 12% of households, but most of those households also own a pc. my point is that apple needs to steer this new found ship of marketshare in the right direction instead of being the same old cautious apple. my point is open up your platform to run 3rd party software that isn't babysat by a ridiculous app approval system. my point is allow your OS to run on all x86 archs and get this show on the road.
You know exactly whose fault this is. What do you expect to happen to a beast such as the Creative Suite applications when an entire programming architecture is yanked from under you? Carbon anyone?
Adobe hearts Apple and OS X but not their competing offerings nor their programming practices. I say this because the Adobe headquarters is filled with Macbook Pros and Mac Pros.
They would have sold 10 million more iPhones if it had Flash!
REALLY!!!
Care to post/share your market research to back that statement up?
Not so sure you can compare one to the other.
If I want to send a picture to my friend who doesn't have a "smart" phone, just a normal mobile, I need MMS.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Flash is totally useless, but what part of the list of fundemenatal phone tasks, or even smartphone tasks, does a lack of flash stop me doing?
It might be nice to have, but it's not exactly vital. I'd rather not have flash than compromise my use of my phone by having poorly implemented flash.
I would be more than happy, yes! Silverlight is a nice technology. And no I never complained about flash not being available. Flash is for people who can't look in the future. Unless Adobe does something really new. Flash will be history. Oh and QuickTime is not a Flash alternative. The only overlap is movie play. Oh and how does Apple make us hate flash? Hate is a strong word. Maybe Adobe made me dislike Flash? Who knows?
I am happy there's no Flash on the iPhone.
If it ever does come to the platform, I hope there's a switch to turn it off.
+1
Flash may look nice, but it is a royal pain in the ass. The only thing flash will do for the iPhone is a) slow it down b) kill the battery c) make me want to throw my iPhone at something/someone. I enjoy NOT having flash on my iPhone and certainly don't miss it when I use the iPhone to search the web.
They would have sold 10 million more iPhones if it had Flash!
I cannot begin to image how you came up with that theory. I think if anything, we would have 10 million more forum posts and threads about how much people hate flash for the iPhone.
Its atleast ten times lighter on windows than mac though. I can play high quality yotubes on a pentium III 450mhz laptop and its butter smooth. I tried the same ona powerbook g4 1.4 ghz and it stuttered like crazy.